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Just saw this in the paper and wow... How can the guy not even cop an official reprimand? Not saying the girl didn't do anything wrong, but surely that is unnecessary force.


Teenage girl 'body-slammed' at Flinders Street Station

Two teenage girls have been charged with assault after a confrontation with ticket inspectors in which one girl was picked up and slammed into the ground after hitting an officer in the face.

Closed-circuit footage of the incident, at Flinders Street Station on July 31, shows the girl bypassing the myki barriers and walking through an open gate, then being grabbed by the clothing by a Metro authorised officer.

The girl turns and hits the man in the face. He then picks her up and slams her into the ground in a move similar to an illegal rugby spear tackle.

The footage was obtained by state Greens leader Greg Barber, who said it revealed ''brutal and unnecessary treatment by a private company, Metro, against people it calls its 'customers'''.

''This sort of violence wouldn't even be allowed on a rugby field and should never have been used against a slight, 15-year-old female,'' Mr Barber said. ''The effect could have been fatal, or even more likely, the girl could have been paralysed for life.''

Despite the high level of physical force used in restraining the girl, the Metro inspector has not been charged. Rather, the girl and a friend who is alleged to have spat at an officer have been charged with assault and will appear before the Children's Court.

The officers involved were cleared after an investigation by the Transport Department. The department's investigating officer, Alan Gosland, finalised his inquiry on September 20, finding there had been no excessive use of force.

''It is my finding that a circumstance referred to in section 221(a) of the act [excessive use of force] had not occurred and [the officer] exercised his functions as an authorised officer reasonably,'' Mr Gosland wrote.

Yet in an earlier email Mr Gosland conceded that the officer may have used excessive force.

The authorised officer who slammed the girl to the ground later completed a Use of Force Incident Form, as required whenever an inspector is involved in a physical altercation. He stated that he used force to prevent her escape, having used ''verbal reasoning … to de-escalate the situation initially''.

''Assaulted by the offender, punched in the face and bitten on left upper thigh when told to loosen hold due to offender saying she couldn't breathe,'' he wrote.

Neither the officer nor the girl was injured, the report states.

A spokesman for the department said he could not comment, as the matter is due before the court.

After viewing the footage, Public Transport Minister Terry Mulder said he was ''really concerned'', promising the incident would be ''fully investigated''.

With Josh Gordon



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http://www.theage.com.au/victoria/why-our-rails-cant-cope-with-the-heat-20131218-2zl3t.html

Why our rails can't cope with the heat

Date
December 18, 2013 - 5:59PM

Adam Carey

Metro's decision to cancel almost 50 train services before the first forecast hot day of summer on Thursday is a sign Melbourne's rail network is still hampered by decades of neglect, public transport experts say.
Melbourne's rail operator announced on Monday that Thursday's forecast 40 degree maximum had "forced" it to cancel 48 services on Thursday and Friday, due to heat-related speed restrictions that take effect at 38 degrees.
Metro took the unprecedented step of cancelling trains in advance so passengers who regularly catch those trains could make other plans, it said.
Metro spokeswoman Larisa Tait said the speed restrictions would also cause some delays.
"We are not expecting all services to run on time tomorrow," Ms Tait said. "We anticipate that some services will run late due to the speed restrictions in place, as trains can only travel at 80km/h on parts of the network where they usually travel at 110km/h."
The heat-related cancellations in Melbourne contrast with Perth's recent experience, in which not a single train was cancelled due to the heat, despite a string of days above 40 degrees.
Transperth spokesman David Hynes said no trains were cancelled.
"Perth is less affected than other states because the bottom line is we have a better rail network, although it's smaller," Mr Hynes said. "We have concrete sleepers throughout our entire network, whereas Sydney and Melbourne are still mostly wooden sleepers which are more prey to heat."
Peter Newman, Professor of Sustainability at Curtin University in Western Australia, said extremely hot days would become more frequent in Melbourne due to climate change, and the city needed to modernise its rail network to cope. Doing so was not complex, it just required investment, said Professor Newman, who is also on the advisory board of Infrastructure Australia.
"Perth had no cancellations because the rail has been built to cope with these extremes," he said. "It's just a simple engineering task."
Metro said it had a large program in place to make the network more resilient to heat. This included "restressing" the tracks to prevent them buckling, ensuring track ballast was at the correct depth and compactness, and cleaning out train air-conditioners. It had also replaced more than 50,000 wooden sleepers this year.
Yet its decision to cancel 48 services could trigger compensation claims from some passengers at the end of the month, should Metro miss its monthly reliability target. Public Transport Victoria said it would treat them as ordinary cancellations. Metro must run 98 per cent of trains under its contract with the government.
"On an average weekday, we run approximately 2280 services, meaning the number of cancelled trains equates to 0.7 per cent tomorrow and 1.4 per cent on Friday," Ms Tait said.
A transport engineer with good technical knowledge of Melbourne's system said ageing and inadequate traction power, which powers trains along the lines, was also to blame for chronic delays on hot days. Metro had this week deliberately "thinned out" its timetable in response, he said.
"The equipment that is used in the substations is very old," he said. "There is a progressive upgrade but the equipment gets hot and becomes less reliable and you find that there is less ability for a particular line section to accommodate a certain number of trains."
Tony Morton, the Public Transport Users Association president, said Metro was less culpable for the cancelled services than successive state governments that had failed to properly maintain and renew the system.


Nice to see the truth told but why is it so obvious and yet so neglected by government. Do commuters not vote?
 
when i saw the the metro tweet the other day i could not contain my anger. i cannot believe it has got to the stage where metro has to cancel services in advance to prepar for hot weather. it is just truly astounding and incredible to believe... yet the state govt wants to build a road tunnel instead of upgrading the train network. this is just as astounding, if not, more.

The heat-related cancellations in Melbourne contrast with Perth's recent experience, in which not a single train was cancelled due to the heat, despite a string of days above 40 degrees.

says it all really. ::)
 
Ian4 said:
when i saw the the metro tweet the other day i could not contain my anger. i cannot believe it has got to the stage where metro has to cancel services in advance to prepar for hot weather. it is just truly astounding and incredible to believe... yet the state govt wants to build a road tunnel instead of upgrading the train network. this is just as astounding, if not, more.

says it all really. ::)
It's pathetic and it comes down to 50 tears of neglect by state governments. It's still, essentially, the same as it was a 100 years ago. No lines going North south, some with only 1 track, trains take 70 minutes from the farthest outer suburbs with real express trains. It's appalling.
 
tigertim said:
It's pathetic and it comes down to 50 tears of neglect by state governments. It's still, essentially, the same as it was a 100 years ago. No lines going North south, some with only 1 track, trains take 70 minutes from the farthest outer suburbs with real express trains. It's appalling.

Hope no one takes it out on the frontline staff. Having worked for Metro they are as frustrated as anyone over the infrastructure!
 
This Is Anfield said:
Hope no one takes it out on the frontline staff. Having worked for Metro they are as frustrated as anyone over the infrastructure!

is that why inspectors take their frustration out on passesngers? :hihi
 
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The marvellously well behaved, polite & fully ticketed passengers that travel the rails?

Anyway the inspectors ARE a breed apart.
 
This Is Anfield said:
The marvellously well behaved, polite & fully ticketed passengers that travel the rails?

i don't blame fare evaders for cheating the system... we don't get value for money for services provided. yet naphine is rumoured to be putting up weekend public transport fares by 80% in 2014. yes you heard me correcty, 80%.
 
Ian4 said:
i don't blame fare evaders for cheating the system... we don't get value for money for services provided. yet naphine is rumoured to be putting up weekend public transport fares by 80% in 2014. yes you heard me correcty, 80%.

First part - WTF!

Second part - WTF! (but a different one ;D ;D) that's a good incentive for more of the first.
 
Experiencing Paris and Lyon for the first time and the stories (which I thought might gave been exaggerated!) are true. First class teain/bus/train system that really are 5 minutes apart.
 
tigertim said:
Experiencing Paris and Lyon for the first time and the stories (which I thought might gave been exaggerated!) are true. First class teain/bus/train system that really are 5 minutes apart.

it's like that in most major cities dude. but you have to travel enough to see it. our public transport infrastructure really is 3rd world in comparison.

and the rumour about weekend public transport fares turned out to be correct. weekend fares have gone up from $3.50 to $6.
sack mulder and napthine.

and finally, put your hand up if you had to work over the xmas-new year period? did anyone notice that metro have been running saturday timetables during the week since december 23? i understand train drivers get holidays like everyone else, but running a saturday timetable on a weekday is ridiculous. people have routines. add to the fact that there are so many events in the city this time of the year.
 
tigertim said:
Experiencing Paris and Lyon for the first time and the stories (which I thought might gave been exaggerated!) are true. First class teain/bus/train system that really are 5 minutes apart.

I was very impressed with the train system in Beijing too. I wonder if those systems cover their costs/ run at a profit. They have massive populations behind them and the cities can be enormous. I couldn't imagine our population justifying 5 minute apart public transport. I haven't seen any evidence we need it or that it would be supported enough to be a viable success. Maybe on some routes at limited times but not full time.
 
rosy23 said:
I couldn't imagine our population justifying 5 minute apart public transport. I haven't seen any evidence we need it or that it would be supported enough to be a viable success. Maybe on some routes at limited times but not full time.

a lot of our tram lines run every 5 mins in peak hour... just sayin.

have you been to london Rosy? their popluation is 8 million and tube line trains run roughly every 2-3 mins all day. london's population is 8 million. our population is expected to hit 8 million by 2049 if current trends continue.

i bet you haven't tried to catch a train from werribee to the city in peak hour, right Rosy? just to give you an example of 1 line... werribee trains currently run every 10 mins in peak hour and you're squashed like sardines by the time it leaves laverton. with population explosion set to continue out west, plus the anticpated werribee line extention and new train stations after the regional rail link is complete, i tend to think a train every 5 mins won't be enough...
 
Ian4 said:
it's like that in most major cities dude. but you have to travel enough to see it. our public transport infrastructure really is 3rd world in comparison.

and the rumour about weekend public transport fares turned out to be correct. weekend fares have gone up from $3.50 to $6.
sack mulder and napthine.

and finally, put your hand up if you had to work over the xmas-new year period? did anyone notice that metro have been running saturday timetables during the week since december 23? i understand train drivers get holidays like everyone else, but running a saturday timetable on a weekday is ridiculous. people have routines. add to the fact that there are so many events in the city this time of the year.

I think Metro were doing heavy maintenance many trains over that period and had less available rolling stock. You can cut them slack for that.
 
Ian4 said:
a lot of our tram lines run every 5 mins in peak hour... just sayin.

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As I said...on some routes at limited times.

Ian4 said:
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have you been to london Rosy? their popluation is 8 million and tube line trains run roughly every 2-3 mins all day. london's population is 8 million. our population is expected to hit 8 million by 2049 if current trends continue.

Ian4 said:
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i bet you haven't tried to catch a train from werribee to the city in peak hour, right Rosy? just to give you an example of 1 line... werribee trains currently run every 10 mins in peak hour and you're squashed like sardines by the time it leaves laverton. with population explosion set to continue out west, plus the anticpated werribee line extention and new train stations after the regional rail link is complete, i tend to think a train every 5 mins won't be enough...

Haha nah I've never caught a train from Werribee to the city. Guess I haven't lived. Might be a must do for the bucket list. :hihi

Yet again you're talking about peak hour when I already said on some routes at limited times in my post you quoted...of course I was referring to peak hour.

Were the Paris/ Lyon/London trains only running at 5 minute intervals in peak hour? You only mentioned that they run 5 minutes apart but not if whether it was all the time or not. I assumed you meant pretty much around the clock. I can see a good case for running extra services here in peak hour but I don't think we have the population or demand to sustain 5 minute turnarounds around the clock. Trains, buses and trams are pretty empty a lot of the time.
 
Some more reasons we don't run trains more frequently:

- Signalling system. It's old, really old and currently at or near capacity on most lines. A modern system that could cope is upwards of 400m and not much use until other bottlenecks have been removed, see below.
- Available rolling stock. We just don't have enough trains and places to store them.
- Level crossings. It would be too disruptive to traffic to run trains that often. See Mitcham Rd and Springvale Rd level crossings currently underway with Murrembeena Rd and Bourke Rd to follow. Takes time and is expensive (100m+ a grade separation)
 
Ian4 said:
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have you been to london Rosy? their popluation is 8 million and tube line trains run roughly every 2-3 mins all day. london's population is 8 million. our population is expected to hit 8 million by 2049 if current trends continue.

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What's your actual point there Ian? Not much point in running services frequent enough for 8 million population when we're nowhere near that at the moment. Hopefully we'll get our act together in time to cope with the demand in decades to come.

Actually I see you did mention they run all every 2-3 minutes all day in the post above. Do you think our population would make that kind of service feasible? We've got a long way to go but I don't see the point in comparing frequency of service throughout the day when apart from peak hour the demand simply wouldn't be there in Melbourne. It would run at a massive loss.
 
The trains run roughly 5 minutes apart even off peak. But yes, I was wondering at what the system cost to have such frequent services when the Melbourne system runs at a loss with far infrequent service.

Each tram/bus/train us fairly well populated but I don't think even excellent fares revenue cover the costs of providing such a system.
 
you live outside of melbourne don't you? my point is that people who don't use the network daily don't know how bad it really is. not necessarily having a go at you Rosy... it's our state and federal politicians that have the data in front of them (or at least they should have), but just don't give a flying go forth and multiply.

we might be 35 years away from 2049, but our train network is 35 years behind where it should be today. so when when someone in spring st finally has a brain and decides to invest in the train network, lets try and get ahead and anticipate future growth instead of just trying to catch up.

to answer your question re every 2-3 mins: 'Do you think our population would make that kind of service feasible?' the answer is yes. patronage has jumped dramtically in recent years because more and more people wanna get off the road to due spiralling petrol costs and increased traffic volumes. this is only gonna get worse. the state govt goes on about the east-west link, but citylink reached capacity 10 years after it opened and we still have 19 years til the tolls are removed. ::)

admitedly cost is an issue. but where there is a will, there is a way. raise taxes. get a loan while interest rates are at an all time low. whatever, just get it done.
 
Ian4 said:
you live outside of melbourne don't you? my point is that people who don't use the network daily don't know how bad it really is. not necessarily having a go at you Rosy... ....

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to answer your question re every 2-3 mins: 'Do you think our population would make that kind of service feasible?' the answer is yes.

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You are correct that I don't live in Melbourne. You are incorrect if you assume I don't use public transport quite regularly in Melbourne. I use it a lot more that relatives I have living in Melbourne so location isn't necessarily a measure of experiencing the system.

I disagree we could sustain around the clock 2-3 minute services. I've been on our system quite enough to know that there are a lot of vacant seats on many non-peak hour services.