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Matt white

Tiger_4_Life said:
I agree on all of those players except McGuane, he was fantastic last night IMO.

Maybe. I was just spilling names off the top of my head.

Not that I'm conviced McGuane isn't one of those glass-half-full types. He has had a reasonable year though, so here's hoping.
 
I bet people on here would be saying Stuey Dew wouldn't get us a flag if we were in the Hawks position last year too. It takes all types to make a team, and a player's benefit to a team often depends on the support around him too.
 
Freezer said:
That's all true, but along with the likes of Raines, Jackson, McMuffin, Edwards, McGuane and numerous others, he's not gonna get us a flag.

We either continue liking our players and finishing mid-table or we turn over the glass-half-full types and get some full-glass types who will take us the next step on the footy field.

I didn't realise it was so easy.
 
Tiger_4_Life said:
See I think this has been the RFC's problem for the last 15 years, we see potential in players and hope that they can improve but they rarely come on, we accept mediocre players with poor skills and prey they come through and I am most certainly guilty of it, but I've had enough of accepting these types of players. I want to watch the Tiges carve the competition up with A grade skills and make our opposition pay for their skill errors. Once again I'm not calling for White's head, I'd love to see him come on but I don't think he has the class to take us forward.

Who's fault is this exactly?

Potential is what gets players drafted in the first place.

Mate, if the job of our coaching staff was to get on their knees and pray for improvement, then any idiot could coach.
 
Tiger_4_Life said:
Missing goals 25 metres out on the run is unacceptable.

Yeah, I have never ever seen an AFL footballer miss a goal from 25m out. In fact I am pretty sure that the accuracy from 25m is 100% after more than 100yrs of organised football. How Matty can live with himself is beyond me, he has bought shame to himself, his family, his hot looking girlfriend, the club and to the AFL. Expect a 12 month suspension some time this week ::)

Gets some perspective people, Matty is a real goer and rarely a week goes by where he doesn't contribute on field. All this crap about accepting duds etc.. is just total rubbish. If you think Matt White is holding the club back you have NO IDEA AT ALL about football.

Hopefully his hammy is not a bad one. A real goer and integral part of the team.
 
Ghost of 29 said:
Yeah, I have never ever seen an AFL footballer miss a goal from 25m out. In fact I am pretty sure that the accuracy from 25m is 100% after more than 100yrs of organised football. How Matty can live with himself is beyond me, he has bought shame to himself, his family, his hot looking girlfriend, the club and to the AFL. Expect a 12 month suspension some time this week ::)

Gets some perspective people, Matty is a real goer and rarely a week goes by where he doesn't contribute on field. All this crap about accepting duds etc.. is just total rubbish. If you think Matt White is holding the club back you have NO IDEA AT ALL about football.

Hopefully his hammy is not a bad one. A real goer and integral part of the team.

Once again this is the mentality that will hold us back agian and again and what's cost Terry his job. If you believe that Matt White is an 'integral part of the team' then you have rocks in your head.
 
Matt White is not up to it sadly. His legs go faster than his brain. poor decision maker and poor user of the ball. Writing is on the wall im afraid.
 
rosy23 said:
I bet people on here would be saying Stuey Dew wouldn't get us a flag if we were in the Hawks position last year too. It takes all types to make a team, and a player's benefit to a team often depends on the support around him too.

Dew was a Premiership player with loads of experience and was drafted to fill a specific role at the Hawks. White is no Dew.

mld said:
I didn't realise it was so easy.

Replacing the glass-half-full types isn't easy. But neither should we settle for the ones we've already got.
 
Ghost of 29 said:
Yeah, I have never ever seen an AFL footballer miss a goal from 25m out.
Exactly!! Reiwoldt missed one fo 10 meters out - are people calling or his head. Too many bufoons on this site.
 
Silent Bob said:
Exactly!! Reiwoldt missed one fo 10 meters out - are people calling or his head. Too many bufoons on this site.

Yeah and Riewoldt missing 10 metres out is unacceptable too....the difference is I'd rather persist with an innaccurate Riewoldt than a skills deficient Matty White.
 
Tiger_4_Life said:
Yeah and Riewoldt missing 10 metres out is unacceptable too....the difference is I'd rather persist with an innaccurate Riewoldt than a skills deficient Matty White.

If your spelling skills are aligned with your footy knowledge then REAL TIGER SUPPORTERS are glad that you have nothing to do with Richmond player selections.

Every player on the list busts their guts for the supporters and the club including mongrel "supporters" like you who get their rocks off getting stuck into them.

Every player who has played any game of sport has "missed a shot", or wasn't as good during his first 50 games as he was in his third lot of 50 games.

Not every player becomes a Premiership winner.....ask Matthew Richardson what he dreamt of as a kid....and it wasn't whining about players from the team that he supports.... and Richo is a superstar.

Every player on the Tiger deserves his spot and deserves the support of every Richmond Member and supporter.

Whitey WILL be back in the Tiger line-up at AFL level as soon as he is fit again, 'rehabbed' and rested up and going out on the ground and busting his gut trying to get the ball into the forward and stopping the opposition when they have it......for the rest of the season and beyond......no matter what disloyal "supporters" like you think about him and his team mates.

Whitey will also be playing mighty good footy for the Tigers for several years to come yet.

If you have any doubts then ACTUALLY get along to a Richmond game and ask any of the officials, coaches and support staff what they think of Whitey.

I know the answer.....you need to find out......and get on board.

When times are tough.....do the tough thing.......SUPPORT don't whine.
 
Hypoxic said:
If your spelling skills are aligned with your footy knowledge then REAL TIGER SUPPORTERS are glad that you have nothing to do with Richmond player selections.

Every player on the list busts their guts for the supporters and the club including mongrel "supporters" like you who get their rocks off getting stuck into them.

Every player who has played any game of sport has "missed a shot", or wasn't as good during his first 50 games as he was in his third lot of 50 games.

Not every player becomes a Premiership winner.....ask Matthew Richardson what he dreamt of as a kid....and it wasn't whining about players from the team that he supports.... and Richo is a superstar.

Every player on the Tiger deserves his spot and deserves the support of every Richmond Member and supporter.

Whitey WILL be back in the Tiger line-up at AFL level as soon as he is fit again, 'rehabbed' and rested up and going out on the ground and busting his gut trying to get the ball into the forward and stopping the opposition when they have it......for the rest of the season and beyond......no matter what disloyal "supporters" like you think about him and his team mates.

Whitey will also be playing mighty good footy for the Tigers for several years to come yet.

If you have any doubts then ACTUALLY get along to a Richmond game and ask any of the officials, coaches and support staff what they think of Whitey.

I know the answer.....you need to find out......and get on board.

When times are tough.....do the tough thing.......SUPPORT don't whine.
oh deary me and thank god there are still deluded ferals out there who cant see the forest for the trees.

we are going to finish near the bottom again another spoon is on the cards but it seems all of our players are okay lets keep the lot of them.

if matt whites skillset is okay by you i hope you enjoy the next 27 yrs of mediocrity because t seems you would be satisfied with any standard.
sheesh some one on the list must not be up to it surely but no there all good.
its posts like the above that shows a total lack of understanding of what has happened and what needs to be done.
 
the claw said:
oh deary me and thank god there are still deluded ferals out there who cant see the forest for the trees.

we are going to finish near the bottom again another spoon is on the cards but it seems all of our players are okay lets keep the lot of them.

if matt whites skillset is okay by you i hope you enjoy the next 27 yrs of mediocrity because t seems you would be satisfied with any standard.
sheesh some one on the list must not be up to it surely but no there all good.
its posts like the above that shows a total lack of understanding of what has happened and what needs to be done.

Bulldust CLAW, its moronic "supporters" like you that have held back this club for so long.

Constant knocking and abuse from clowns like you, when the club is on its knees is what keeps us down.

If you don't like what is going on....run for the board.... or try to get on the playing list.

You might get to feel what real support is you moron.
 
Hypoxic said:
Bulldust CLAW, its moronic "supporters" like you that have held back this club for so long.

Constant knocking and abuse from clowns like you, when the club is on its knees is what keeps us down.

If you don't like what is going on....run for the board.... or try to get on the playing list.

You might get to feel what real support is you moron.

While I don't like the use of the term moron in your post, I agree with your general feelings. It is a damn side easier to be critical and to comment in hindsight.

The people who are constantly critical of the club should go and read the forums of other clubs' fansites. One club I often look at is the Eagles. You get the people on there in meltdown mode, but in general they tend to try and find a position of reality in their postings leaning towards being positive, rather than being ultranegative.
 
Hypoxic said:
If your spelling skills are aligned with your footy knowledge then REAL TIGER SUPPORTERS are glad that you have nothing to do with Richmond player selections.

Every player on the list busts their guts for the supporters and the club including mongrel "supporters" like you who get their rocks off getting stuck into them.

Every player who has played any game of sport has "missed a shot", or wasn't as good during his first 50 games as he was in his third lot of 50 games.

Not every player becomes a Premiership winner.....ask Matthew Richardson what he dreamt of as a kid....and it wasn't whining about players from the team that he supports.... and Richo is a superstar.

Every player on the Tiger deserves his spot and deserves the support of every Richmond Member and supporter.

Whitey WILL be back in the Tiger line-up at AFL level as soon as he is fit again, 'rehabbed' and rested up and going out on the ground and busting his gut trying to get the ball into the forward and stopping the opposition when they have it......for the rest of the season and beyond......no matter what disloyal "supporters" like you think about him and his team mates.

Whitey will also be playing mighty good footy for the Tigers for several years to come yet.

If you have any doubts then ACTUALLY get along to a Richmond game and ask any of the officials, coaches and support staff what they think of Whitey.

I know the answer.....you need to find out......and get on board.

When times are tough.....do the tough thing.......SUPPORT don't whine.

Oh FFS I love on these forums how the grammar police (or is it grammer? I was never taught that well at school) are out in force when an argument breaks out. Oh and I also love how you're attacking my English when half of your post doesn't make any sense "Every player on the Tiger deserves his spot and deserves the support of every Richmond Member and supporter". Yes it must be a rather large tiger to fit all the Richmond players on it.

Don't you dare question my support of the tigers. I'm a paid up member of 18 years and i'm only 25 years old. Yes as you say I love getting my rocks off by pulling my hair out at missed kicks and missed tackles, I love seeing my team lose because hack players are retained year after year. Well this 'mongrel supporter' has had enough! I want my team to win, to succeed and win a flag.

Richmond can not win a flag when we have so many players who can't kick a football running through our midfield. Players such as White, Tuck, Jackson, Foley, Hislop and by all accounts when/if Thomson gets a run he too is prone to poor kicking. Champion teams such as Hawthorn, Geelong and this year the saints all have damaging midfielders because they can all kick to targets.

I will go and take your advice and go ask the coaching staff what they think about Matt White, I can hardly imagine they will tell me 'gee Whitey he's no good, he can't kick' of course they will say 'He's a great young talent, fast mover and has a real crack at it'.....I'd better get in quick too because as I believe the head coach is gone this week and no doubt the rest of his cronies will be gone by seasons end.

I've never once called for the delisting of Matt White, but at the moment he can't kick, yes he has a go, I've never questioned his endeavor but in my opinion we simply can't win games of football when we have players such as White who don't damage the opposition by foot.

I've been on board for 18 years, and I'll be on board for however long it takes so excuse me if I get frustrated supporting a club that continues to fail and stand by players who can't kick a football...
 
Streak said:
While I don't like the use of the term moron in your post, I agree with your general feelings. It is a damn side easier to be critical and to comment in hindsight.

The people who are constantly critical of the club should go and read the forums of other clubs' fansites. One club I often look at is the Eagles. You get the people on there in meltdown mode, but in general they tend to try and find a position of reality in their postings leaning towards being positive, rather than being ultranegative.

The eagles have won 3 premierships since 1992. Richmond have been in the finals twice in 27 years.....of course opposition supporters are going to be more positive and patient.
 
Streak said:
While I don't like the use of the term moron in your post, I agree with your general feelings. It is a damn side easier to be critical and to comment in hindsight.

To be fair, Claw has been banging on about the same deficiencies for years.

He isn't using hindsight... he was preaching the importance of a strict youth policy and other views long before it was known how they'd play out. He's cruel and negative (because of our reality) yes, but you have to be if you're planning for success.

You can't be positive when you're legitimately a terrible football club.

If Claw was in charge 6 years ago I reckon we'd have made more progress than we did under the current recruiting philosophies.
 
Tiger_4_Life said:
Once again this is the mentality that will hold us back agian and again and what's cost Terry his job. If you believe that Matt White is an 'integral part of the team' then you have rocks in your head.

No. Hanging on to Schulz, trading for McMuffin, Hislop, recruiting Kingsley et al..that is what has cost TW his job and held the club back. I will contest that Matty is an integral part of the team. This doesn't mean he has to be in the top 5 players, it means he plays an important role as part of the 22.

Does he have some weaknesses - of course, but he is one kid who would work his ringer off to improve this area.

But he brings a lot to the team in terms of run, breaking the lines, agression at the contest and working for team mates.

So if you think delisting Matty will help the club, then it is you that has rocks in your head my friend.
 
Can't people discuss things without the personal insults?

Fact is Matty is selected each week by the coaching panel. They'd have more insight the role he plays and must see something in him. When he has been sent back to Coburg he's worked hard on his deficiencies and almost always put in a BOG performance. The kid works hard and listens. I reckon he's got a lot of improvemernt in him still. He's far from our worst player but a bit of support might even help make him an even better one. ;)
 
We can't delist somebody like White this year. There are too many people ahead of him on the delist / retire train.