Marriage Equality

[Panthera Tigris]

You might well be right.

Or like most of society, perhaps there were divergent individual views, rather than any consensus; Some passionately for, some vehemently against, some with ambivalent feelings, others with an apathetic view.

 

[skybeau]

Same sex marriage passes Parliament.

Well done Australia. You tried to faff it up, but you didn't.

 

[Baloo]

Same sex marriage passes Parliament.

Well done Australia. You tried to faff it up, but you didn't.

In before the alt.right crew....

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[tigertim]

Yep, good work. People bag Turnbull over this issue but history will show it came under his watch.

Not Abbotts, not Gilllard, not Rudd, not Howard’s not....

 

[jb03]

Yep, good work. People bag Turnbull over this issue but history will show it came under his watch.

Not Abbotts, not Gilllard, not Rudd, not Howard’s not....

Yep, good call Tim. I find it quite amusing that the history will show the Libs as the party that brought it in and the ALP jibbed it.

People quite rightly criticise Turnbull on many issues but he has played this to perfection - he managed to get it in the only possible way he could as a conservative PM - well played.

 

[gutfull]

I dont give a *smile* for YES vote ,BUT its about bloody time the farking government pulled their fingers from where the sun don't shine and did some thing worth voting for.
How about fixing the Homeless problem ? , How about feeding the people that need help ? How about getting most of the scum bleeding the welfare system dry ?.How about fixing the jobs market ?.
How about looking after the Majority of the public instead of Farking around wasting millions of tax payers dollars on some bloody useless bill that allows gay to be married ???

Australia has gone to the *smile* house big time , you reap what you sow Peoples , enjoy ...

 

[Baloo]

you reap what you sow Peoples , enjoy ...

But it'll do. Save yourself, serve yourself. World serves its own needs, listen to your heart bleed. It’s a perfect day, and then later When it gets dark, we go home.

 

[Tigers of Old]

I voted yes & I'm glad the LGBTI community is happy now that they feel that they are equal that they are able to marry like the rest of us.
That is the right & just decision.
However I'm pretty happy that this debate has been put to rest & we can now just get on with it cause frankly I am sick to death of hearing about it.

 

[Panthera Tigris]

Yep, good call Tim. I find it quite amusing that the history will show the Libs as the party that brought it in and the ALP jibbed it.

People quite rightly criticise Turnbull on many issues but he has played this to perfection - he managed to get it in the only possible way he could as a conservative PM - well played.

It's a weird antithetical phenomenon isn't it. Kind of reminds me of the Hawk/Keating years of economic reform. Deregulation and liberalism of the economy were policies most championed by and associated with those on the Liberal or 'Right' side politics. Yet it took an ALP PM to have the ability to get it through the Parliament.

A socially progressive reform - such as redefining the legal definition of marriage to include same sex couplings - has most been associated with the 'left' side of politics (ALP/Greens), yet could only be achieved by a PM on the conservative side.

 

[Harry]

I voted yes & I'm glad the LGBTI community is happy now that they feel that they are equal that they are able to marry like the rest of us.
That is the right & just decision.
However I'm pretty happy that this debate has been put to rest & we can now just get on with it cause frankly I am sick to death of hearing about it.

This won't be last you'll be hearing from the lgbtiq community.

 

[MD Jazz]

I dont give a sh!t for YES vote ,BUT its about bloody time the *smile*ing government pulled their fingers from where the sun don't shine and did some thing worth voting for.
How about fixing the Homeless problem ? , How about feeding the people that need help ? How about getting most of the scum bleeding the welfare system dry ?.How about fixing the jobs market ?.
How about looking after the Majority of the public instead of *smile*ing around wasting millions of tax payers dollars on some bloody useless bill that allows gay to be married ???

Australia has gone to the sh!t house big time , you reap what you sow Peoples , enjoy ...

Most of what you rant about is not the governments job IMO. I don't want or expect the government to give me anything. That's half the problem gf, people like you with that attitude. Get of your arse and do it yourself.

Hopefully you're looking at alternative countries to live in. I've heard Nth Korea has a great interventionist government and prices are pretty cheap.

 

[Panthera Tigris]

This won't be last you'll be hearing from the lgbtiq community.

There is something in that Harry. Not so much from your run of the mill gay or lesbian person, that may be your neighbour, sibling, friend, work colleague etc. These people will simply get on with things.

But from the professional LBGTIQ political lobby, who are largely employed by the taxpayer and wield a fair amount of ear time of the political class. For these people, their career and livelihood depends on continually shifting societal goal posts and clutching at straws for offense and perceived injustices. Such professional activists have openly stated since the yes vote prevailed, that this is only the beginning. Wait for political representative quotas and workplace employment quotas for people identifying as LBGTIQ. Or special educational allowances &/or scholarships for children either identifying as LBGTIQ, or with LBGTIQ parents/guardians. Even preferential treatment for LBGTIQ people in regards to IVF has been mentioned by the more hard line elements.

That all said, the professional activists would have pushed these types of barrows regardless of the result of the gay marriage issue. The flawed process though has given them a greater platform to springboard off. Nearly like, "bigoted Australian society held off giving us marriage for so long, now you owe us, this, this, this and this as well. And if you don't agree, you are a heartless bigot"

 

[Giardiasis]

Are celebrants and pastors allowed to deny marriage services to gay couples? Are they allowed to claim that marriage is between a man and a women to the exclusion of all others during their ceremonies?

 

[Giardiasis]

That all said, the professional activists would have pushed these types of barrows regardless of the result of the gay marriage issue. The flawed process though has given them a greater platform to springboard off. Nearly like, "bigoted Australian society held off giving us marriage for so long, now you owe us, this, this, this and this as well. And if you don't agree, you are a heartless bigot"

Not only that but language is now a form of violence, hence the need for laws to prevent people from expressing the wrong opinions (such as there are only 2 genders, there is no gender pay gap, anyone can be racist, etc.) or using the wrong pronouns (which have no limit).

 

[tigersnake]

I voted yes & I'm glad the LGBTI community is happy now that they feel that they are equal that they are able to marry like the rest of us.
That is the right & just decision.
However I'm pretty happy that this debate has been put to rest & we can now just get on with it cause frankly I am sick to death of hearing about it.

x2

 

[Coburgtiger]

This won't be last you'll be hearing from the lgbtiq community.

Yep. Now they have equal rights, what will they want next? To feel safe in the workplace? The nerve. The political forces of Big Gay wont stop until nobody is being persecuted for their gender and orientation. And what will we have then? Who would want to live in that world?

I, for one, can barely sleep at night with the harrassment I receive from the lgtbqi community. I mean, it's up there with world hunger, climate change, and the impending threat of nuclear war. They may even start a text message chain!

And then, it could get really bad. As gutfull would say, we may get gay schools. And, even though I'm not sure what they are, or how they would work, they sound like a thing! My kids might catch gay. Then where would we be.

This is the beginning of the end. We may as well just do away with institutionalised prejudice altogether. What a world.

 

[tigersnake]

Yep, good call Tim. I find it quite amusing that the history will show the Libs as the party that brought it in and the ALP jibbed it.

People quite rightly criticise Turnbull on many issues but he has played this to perfection - he managed to get it in the only possible way he could as a conservative PM - well played.

I don't disagree with this, and the bottom line is you are correct, but to play the devils advocate JG avoided the issue because she believed it would distract from the issues she wanted to work on, the carbon tax and the NBN for example. (If she'd know the Coalition would subsequently wreck both she may have done things differently)

 

[poppa x]

For these people, their career and livelihood depends on continually shifting societal goal posts and clutching at straws for offense and perceived injustices

I call it relevance deprivation syndrone.

They have won their cause, so need to find something else to keep their names and egos in the news.
It's the same as the old communists. They lost their war, and migrated to the Greens.

 

[MD Jazz]

I don't disagree with this, and the bottom line is you are correct, but to play the devils advocate JG avoided the issue because she believed it would distract from the issues she wanted to work on, the carbon tax and the NBN for example. (If she'd know the Coalition would subsequently wreck both she may have done things differently)

That's some mighty revisionism there!!

 

[MD Jazz]

Yep. Now they have equal rights, what will they want next? To feel safe in the workplace? The nerve. The political forces of Big Gay wont stop until nobody is being persecuted for their gender and orientation. And what will we have then? Who would want to live in that world?

I, for one, can barely sleep at night with the harrassment I receive from the lgtbqi community. I mean, it's up there with world hunger, climate change, and the impending threat of nuclear war. They may even start a text message chain!

And then, it could get really bad. As gutfull would say, we may get gay schools. And, even though I'm not sure what they are, or how they would work, they sound like a thing! My kids might catch gay. Then where would we be.

This is the beginning of the end. We may as well just do away with institutionalised prejudice altogether. What a world.

:clap

Harry might be leaving the country with gutful shortly.