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Marriage Equality
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Giardiasis said:
in your world people with power can discriminate against those who dont. im glad we dont live in that world.
Everyone discriminates Brodders. It is an unavoidable reality of social cooperation. You don't reduce racism by enacting the sort of laws you support. You give it fertile ground to grow.Brodders17 said:
In my world people have the freedom to choose who they associate with and who they enter agreements with (i.e. voluntary cooperation). In your world, people are compelled to interact with those they do not want to. This does wonders to the racist cause, as it provides a real injustice for them to rally behind. They are much better at organising themselves then the marxists because they are a much more homogeneous group. Then bad sh!t really ramps up. Allow racists to not associate with people they don't wish to and they will be hit financially where it counts, and they will have nothing to complain about.
Giardiasis said:
Weak. He said he'd support it if the people did. They did. He didn't. Simples.
The people were asked about protections for those that don’t want to marry gay couples? That’s news to me?KnightersRevenge said:
Giardiasis said:
Not what he said Gia. He said he'd follow the people's choice and vote in the parliament as directed by the people. He was given the chance to be as good as his word and for the umpteenth time in his political career his word proved to be worthless.
Harry said:
Fair enough.
Do you think people should be able to marry their children? or their pets? or their doormats?
Harry said:
You need to divorce the civil act from the social one for this to make sense. (Pardon the pun...or don't )
There is a legal status attached to marriage by the state for the protection of children, spouses, collection of taxes etc. Does the doormat get half in the break-up? Do you have to pay alimony to Hammy the Hamster?
Giardiasis said:
Going off memory ATM. I'll have a look through his transcripts to see if I can find it. He was pretty careful from what I've read of his early interviews to commit the parliament to act on the people's recommendation without extending to a personal committment. I may be conflating the two.
Love is love KR, #equality. You sound like someone that’s arguing against SSM.KnightersRevenge said:
Harry said:
Fair enough. What about children? Should there be a legal age for marriage? And should this apply to someone's own child?
Giardiasis said:
I'm a complex person Gia. ;D Agree completely on love. I'm married. I love my wife. We married only because it was important to her. I was committed to our relationship with or without the paperwork, not very romantic I know but there you have it. Unfortunately marriage is tied up in all that other stuff. But I don't see the point in denying it to people who want it, either.
I don’t think the law should prevent it, but neither should it compel it. #governmentoutofmarriage. Doesn’t have the same ring to it unfortunately.
Giardiasis said:
And that is consistent with your #governmentoutofeverything stance. I can see the merits of both arguments.
Giardiasis said:
I could agree with that. unfortunately it wasnt part of the postal survey. and is a long way from being up for debate.
