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Little things that annoy you....

Gotta love those Govt infrastructure jobs. That's all them ones than run massively over budget n years late. Then next thing ya know budgets are blown to deep in *smile* n there's nil money left for the upkeep of any of the previously existing infrastructure.
 
Gotta love those Govt infrastructure jobs. That's all them ones than run massively over budget n years late. Then next thing ya know budgets are blown to deep in *smile* n there's nil money left for the upkeep of any of the previously existing infrastructure.
Problem is the government usually does the big infrastructure projects, which globally have significant failure rates (cots/times/unrealisation of scope).
The industry I'm in - globally the really big projects have an 80% failure rate. I think from memory, some of those projects outside the 80% are abandoned completely.
In a democracy with short election cycles, our Pollies of all persuasions are not incentivised to take those risks.
 
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I worked night shift and afternoon shift for 6 years from the age of 19. When I finally got a transfer that enabled me to work regular business hours, I promised myself I would never miss post work Friday night drinks again.

And religiously, for almost 20 years I was at the pub for Friday night drinks, until the pandemic hit.

The after the pandemic, I stopped going. There are a few reasons for this, but the number 1 reason is the cost of a pint. I just can’t justify p!ssing that amount of money up the wall.

It's an interesting situation Ian.
I went to the Hozier concert last night at Sidney Myer that had a relatively young audience.
1000s in attendence.

It had all the usual trimmings you'd expect. Food trucks, merch tent & bar.
The food truck & merch tent queues were 300m long.
Alternatively the well staffed bar had virtually nobody in the queue all night..

My sense is that young people are rejecting alcohol en masse.
Partially because it's what their parents did.
Partially because alcohol is starting to be seen as the cigarettes of our generation.
Mostly I reckon it's because of the extortionate prices.

I think pubs are going to start feeling the pinch big time as the younger gen starts to reject grog.
Won't be at all surprised to see them closing. Actually it's a trend that's started a while back if you think about it..
Watch this space.
 
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My sense is that young people are rejecting alcohol en masse.
Partially because it's what their parents did.
Partially because alcohol is starting to be seen as the cigarettes of our generation.
Mostly I reckon it's because of the extortionate prices.

I think pubs are going to start feeling the pinch big time as the younger gen starts to reject grog.
Won't be at all surprised to see them closing. Actually it's a trend that's started a while back if you think about it..
Watch this space.
My mum used to work in retail. Her boss was an ex-bouncer at nightclubs. He said that alcohol sales plummeted in the early 2000s. Most kids were drinking water...as it was a perfect accompaniment with their other consumables.
 
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My mum used to work in retail. Her boss was an ex-bouncer at nightclubs. He said that alcohol sales plummeted in the early 2000s. Most kids were drinking water...as it was a perfect accompaniment with their other consumables.
Yep. Don't have to keep lining up at the bar for a refill, don't have to keep lining up at the dunnies to make room for the next refill. Pop a couple of tabs, bottle of water n party all night. No hangover next morning n cheaper as well.
 
Actually, they blew it on vote buying middle class welfare. Real visionaries.

The right wingers only believe what the right wing media tell them.


"In 1996, Treasurer Peter Costello inherited an economy in promising shape. The tax system had been overhauled, the public service had been trimmed to size and the budget returned to structural surplus after decades of deficits.

Australia’s economy strengthened remarkably through the Hawke-Keating period. The world watched in awe as Paul Keating deregulated the banks, floated the Aussie dollar, reduced tariffs on imports, “snapped the stick” of inflation, moved from centralised wage-fixing to enterprise bargaining and privatised publicly-owned non-monopolies.

From about the 20th-ranked economy in 1982, Australia had risen by 1996 to sixth in the world — behind only the United Arab Emirates, Norway, Singapore, Japan and the United States.

That’s measured by the variables: income, growth, wealth, jobs, inflation, interest rates, taxes, economic freedom and credit ratings.

By 2007, however, at the end of the wasted Howard years, Australia had slipped back in the rankings to 10th place.

This was masked, at the time, by global growth and an extraordinarily acquiescent media. But while Howard and Costello alternately blundered and dozed, Australia (with Japan and the USA) was overtaken by Iceland, Luxembourg, Switzerland, Taiwan, Hong Kong and China.

Most of these had lower interest rates, greater support for enterprises and smarter investment strategies — and hence more people employed and stronger growth.

There was no excuse for this deterioration. The structural reforms of the Hawke and Keating years built the foundation for Australia to beat the world — as eventually happened in 2010, when Australia rocketed to the top of the world’s economies.

Six serious blunders cost Australia dearly.

The first was selling off productive assets. These included airports, the National Rail Corporation, Dasfleet, Telstra, the remaining share of the Commonwealth Bank and many other valuable enterprises.

Had Australia retained some or all of these cash-yielding assets, current angst over debt may well have been allayed.

The second serious failure was failing to invest in infrastructure needed for future development. The funds were certainly available, especially as the mining boom accelerated.

The third was failing to lift compulsory superannuation savings to strengthen retiree security.

The Keating Government had planned to increase contributions from 9% to 15%, so baby boomers could enjoy retirement on incomes close to weekly earnings.

“Anyone born in the 1940s can't now be in the system long enough,” Mr Keating lamented. “It's impossible now to look after the baby boomers. Impossible.”
Chief executive of superannuation fund Cbus David Atkin agreed:

“There's no doubt that the delay in introducing higher contributions is impacting on baby boomers.”

The fourth was selling 167 tonnes of Australia’s gold reserves at near rock bottom prices just before the price rose spectacularly. According to one assessment, the fire sale returned just $2.4 billion. Had the gold been sold in 2011, when the nation needed cash during the global financial crisis, it would have fetched about $7.4 billion.

The fifth disaster was losing more than $4.5 billion gambling in foreign exchange markets between 1997 and 2002.

According to Kenneth Davidson:

“...foreign banks have walked away with a fortune as a result of the Treasury's failed attempt at picking currency winners.”

Further damning analysis has been offered by Alan Kohler and News Weekly. But for most of the last ten years this was effectively covered up.

The sixth was squandering the proceeds of asset sales and the vast rivers of revenue from booming industries by handing it out to middle and high income earners as election bribes.

According to a Treasury report in 2008, between 2004 and 2007, the mining boom and a robust economy added $334 billion in windfall gains to the budget surplus. Of this, the Howard Government spent, or gave away in tax cuts, $314 billion, or 94 per cent.

Sales of businesses yielded another $72 billion. And yet Australia’s cash in the bank when Howard left office was a pathetically low 7.3% of GDP.

Several other countries were much higher: Chile 13.0%, Sweden 17.4%, Finland 72.5%, United Arab Emirates 100.8% and Norway 138.8%.

Constant crowing by the cocky Coalition about the strong surplus it left is laughable. Even Algeria [20.9%], Bulgaria [10.2%] and Kazakhstan [14.4%] had better books in 2007 than Australia.

Peter Hartcher summarised the disaster succinctly in 2009:

Yet the truth is that tax revenues were gushing into the Treasury so powerfully that the vaults were bursting — Howard and Costello could deliver surpluses and still spend rashly and irresponsibly.

Howard spent $4 billion on his own ‘cash splash’ in his final budget, and promised another $4 billion in his election campaign, in the middle of a boom. In other words, there was no economic rationale whatsoever. On the contrary, Howard's handouts were helping to overheat the economy. These payouts were economic vandalism and political bribes designed to buy votes.
The Coalition will continue to declare: “You can trust us with the economy. We ran things well before.”

Don’t believe them. They didn’t.

They were, in fact, utterly incompetent."

 
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Yeh, EzT and tigersanke have always yelled from the rooftops about the wasted opportunities of the Howard years.

History is revealing them to be no more than vote buying squanderers.
 
It's an interesting situation Ian.
I went to the Hozier concert last night at Sidney Myer that had a relatively young audience.
1000s in attendence.

It had all the usual trimmings you'd expect. Food trucks, merch tent & bar.
The food truck & merch tent queues were 300m long.
Alternatively the well staffed bar had virtually nobody in the queue all night..

My sense is that young people are rejecting alcohol en masse.
Partially because it's what their parents did.
Partially because alcohol is starting to be seen as the cigarettes of our generation.
Mostly I reckon it's because of the extortionate prices.

I am pretty certain there is data out there that proves younger people drink less beer and alcohol as a rule.

While there isn’t likely to be data out there, there is little doubt in my kind younger people substitute alcohol for illicit substances.

And you can’t blame them from a purely cost perspective. A couple of ecstasy pills will cost you under $100. Half a bag of coke, maybe $150. Cheaper than going to a nightclub on a weekend and spending a couple of hundred on alcohol.
 
People bemoaning the lack of taxpayer money invested in infrastructure

Q. Where has all the investment in public infrastructure gone?
A. Blame Howard/Costello they’ve done nothing for the last 17 years.
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I’ve put all the political threads on ignore so I don’t have to read the junk that’s put in them, can we leave the political commentary to those threads please.
 
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It's an interesting situation Ian.
I went to the Hozier concert last night at Sidney Myer that had a relatively young audience.
1000s in attendence.

It had all the usual trimmings you'd expect. Food trucks, merch tent & bar.
The food truck & merch tent queues were 300m long.
Alternatively the well staffed bar had virtually nobody in the queue all night..

My sense is that young people are rejecting alcohol en masse.
Partially because it's what their parents did.
Partially because alcohol is starting to be seen as the cigarettes of our generation.
Mostly I reckon it's because of the extortionate prices.

I think pubs are going to start feeling the pinch big time as the younger gen starts to reject grog.
Won't be at all surprised to see them closing. Actually it's a trend that's started a while back if you think about it..
Watch this space.
Yeah, my 18 yr old daughter went out to a show at the Croxton last Saturday night and drank in the car on the way (her mum driver her) but not at the venue as it’s too expensive.
 
I’ve put all the political threads on ignore so I don’t have to read the junk that’s put in them, can we leave the political commentary to those threads please.

One has been locked. The second is on it's way I think as the belligerent spamming seems to have moved there.
 
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It's an interesting situation Ian.
I went to the Hozier concert last night at Sidney Myer that had a relatively young audience.
1000s in attendence.

It had all the usual trimmings you'd expect. Food trucks, merch tent & bar.
The food truck & merch tent queues were 300m long.
Alternatively the well staffed bar had virtually nobody in the queue all night..

My sense is that young people are rejecting alcohol en masse.
Partially because it's what their parents did.
Partially because alcohol is starting to be seen as the cigarettes of our generation.
Mostly I reckon it's because of the extortionate prices.

I think pubs are going to start feeling the pinch big time as the younger gen starts to reject grog.
Won't be at all surprised to see them closing. Actually it's a trend that's started a while back if you think about it..
Watch this space.
I went to Laneway in Bris early in the year. Very young crowd. Very extensive bar menu, lot of pre-mixed, low carb stuff, lot of low or no alcohol stuff, but only 2 beers, nominally speaking, one low alcohol, one ginger, so I'd argue there were actually no beers available at all. At a music festival!

I was amazed. fair enough for them to not expect much demand, but to not have any at all? Personally I reckon a lot of it was down to sponsorship and promo as much or more than demand, if they'd had a normal lager it would have outsold a lot of the available options, even if it didn't fly off the shelves.
 
Yeh, EzT and tigersanke have always yelled from the rooftops about the wasted opportunities of the Howard years.

History is revealing them to be no more than vote buying squanderers.
If you analyse their economic policies objectively, there is no other conclusion. Pissed the biggest economic boom, the Chinese iron-ore export boom of the 2000s, in our nations history up against the wall. A disaster for the nation that will continue to be felt for generations, great for them in that the vote buying worked.
 
One has been locked. The second is on it's way I think as the belligerent spamming seems to have moved there.
The belligerent spamming and insults from the moaning lefties. ;)

Every time it moves to a different topic in the thread, they find something in American politics to bring up again. Don’t they Baloo? ;)




It doesn’t matter which thread it is..Howard, Murdoch and the American bloke will get a run. Nothing surer. 😁
 
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