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Josh Caddy

Re: Welcome to Tigerland - Josh Caddy

I like him. Not quick, but he's a bull, with nice skills
I reckon he'll get better as the year goes on
I like him
 
Re: Welcome to Tigerland - Josh Caddy

He's the replacement for Tuck we have been looking for. Vlastuin is the Jackson replacement. Prestia the Foley replacement and Rioli the King replacement. Replacement is not the right word really. Improvement is more apt.
 
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The Mole said:
He's the replacement for Tuck we have been looking for. Vlastuin is the Jackson replacement. Prestia the Foley replacement and Rioli the King replacement. Replacement is not the right word really. Improvement is more apt.

I'm glad you corrected - because - lets face it - none of those guys actually took us anywhere...............

Rioli will be well ahead of King
Prestia in a single game already - clearly - a better player than Foley
Jackson - I pick my words with caution
Tuck was a soldier - and little more.
 
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Barnzy said:
There is not fast and slow. There's a lot inbetween.

He busted out of the pack and "hit it at pace" as you say because Caddy has a good burst of acceleration.

Sure if you if put him in a 100m sprint with Markov he'd lose handily, but that is not needed as a 6'1-6'2 inside mid who pinch hits forward. I love Milesy and we should be playing both of them, but he doesn't have Caddy's initial burst out of congestion as an example.

IT is probably in dispute Barnzy whether he is a good player or not, but what is not in dispute is that he is slow.
 
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bullus_hit said:
I rate Caddy as a B grade footballer, I thought pick 24 was fair value at the time but I also rated Parfitt as a top 20 talent and was slightly miffed he was the guy Geelong picked. As others have pointed out, he fills a role but it's the same role Parfitt could have filled for the next 10 years. Despite Caddy being a better overhead mark, Parfiitt trumps him for speed, agility & x-factor. Don't get me wrong, we haven't been totally bent over but I probably would have preferred to keep the pick and recruit Barlow.

My thoughts exactly
 
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Smoking Aces said:
Disagree. You are seriously underselling Caddys ability. BTW you are not alone here.

Caddy is a footballer. Smart one too. He might not rack up big numbers but he does things that allows our stars to shine. Exhibit A - Martin.

Please. Martin shines with or without the likes of caddy. Like a lighthouse.
 
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Watched the replay today. He was better than I thought, especially in the 2nd half

If he averages 18-20 possessions a game and kicks between 20 and 30 goals he is very valuable and he is capable of that
 
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Once we get rid of the myth and focus on what Caddy actually is we'll get some fair assessments of Caddy's performance.

Caddy is not a 'big-bodied inside mid'. For a start he isn't big-bodied for a mid. Dangerfield. Ablett. Watson. Have a look at them. They are 6-10kg heavier than Caddy. And they'd break him in half.

Barnzy has put up a nice little grab of Caddy doing something at his best. Coming from behind the ball and breaking the line. Flanker work. And good stuff.

Caddy is consistent, having only one aberrant year, in 2015 IIRC, when Geelong tried to make an inside mid of him and they missed the eight. He's not good enough. Simple.

Josh Caddy is a HFF/M7. That is he plays HFF and is a second choice rotation for the midfield. (He'll play forward pocket for us too.) He is perfectly acceptable in this role and a walk-up start in a side like Richmond. He's 20/20. A 20 touch a game, 20 goal a year player. And for a HFF he's a good size.

With our mosquito fleet emerging and our forward line unstructured he's going to have to do a lot of bullocking for the Tiges. (Jack Graham will eventually help out there.)

Comparisons with Miles (an M3) are relevant in that Caddy let his midfield opponents get off the chain at times. Not good. He has to have more defensive influence when we him roll through the middle.

But Caddy was creative up forward, kicked a goal, took some heat and got his seventeen touches. His tall game was passable. (Look out, Sam Lloyd.)

As for his being slow. He is. Particularly compared to Sam Rowe - who also ran down Daniel Rioli. Sam Rowe is blistering when he gets going. (Outstanding athlete.) And Caddy was either underdone or had a little niggle. He's usually more mobile than that.

That was a satisfactory debut IMO. And he can improve his goal rate. I've got him down for 30 this year.
 
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bullus_hit said:
Given that player was Brandan Parfitt it's hard for me to disagree.

That hurts, Bully. That's your man.

And given that we should have traded INTO the 2016 draft rather than out of it the selection should also have been supplemented by another 20s pick. It was a major point of philosophical difference between the rebuild school and the patch-up school.

Caddy is a satisfactory patch up who we paid too much for. A structural problem for Geelong. (Aaaarrrgh!) And one with a clear ceiling IMO. (The thing I haven't mentioned above is that he's a seventeen-gamer not a 25-gamer. But I think we'll manage him well.)

Anyway. Maybe I'll be retracting this at the end of the year. I'm letting it slide now, Bully. FWIW the patch up looks ok to me in light of the progress of he mosquito fleet.
 
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I like his toughness and hardness, he showed courage and got crunched early in a marking contest.
He'll fly the the flag for us and i'm confident he'll get better, he mightn't be great , but he'll be pretty good.
 
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During the dust up following the Rance collision, I think it was Caddy who was one of the first in to fly the flag.
 
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Dyer'ere said:
Caddy is not a 'big-bodied inside mid'. For a start he isn't big-bodied for a mid. Dangerfield. Ablett. Watson. Have a look at them. They are 6-10kg heavier than Caddy. And they'd break him in half.

Not sure where you got your stats from but I disagree. Caddy is quite big bodied and he plays like it too. These are the stats I have on height and weight:

Caddy: 186cm 88kg
Dangerfield: 189cm 92kg
Watson: 191cm 93kg
Ablett: 182cm 89kg

Caddy's shorter than Dangerfield and Watson and 4kg lighter which is about right taking into account height. Ablett supprisingly to me is heavier for height than all of them.

Edit: Add Fyfe into the mix who is 190cm and 91kg.
 
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Another solid game from Josh, he's a tough bugger and blocked really well for the two goals that Jack got.
 
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Gets a fair mount of bad press but if you watch the game on the box you will see the tremendous amountof work he does both on the ball and off it. Important to our structure
 
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I'm not convinced. He's not particularly clean with his use and he needs to be as he's not fast enough to buy himself some time.

On a side note, is he trying to get some Selwood cachet with the head bandages?
 
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Tony Braxton-Hicks said:
I'm not convinced. He's not particularly clean with his use and he needs to be as he's not fast enough to buy himself some time.

On a side note, is he trying to get some Selwood cachet with the head bandages?

you can't have a side full of stars. Did his bit

edit, after watching the replay, did more than his bit, very good game.
 
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i like what he brings. solid support.
 
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Will never be a star. That's not why the got him. He is solid in the contest - can win his own ball and take/dish out a hit. Good for a goal a week. But what he does do and it's been clearly evident in the first two games - is he is releasing Martin and Cotchin forward and we look so much more dangerous as a team when we can do that. It's exactly what role Tuck and Jackson played. Not world beaters but play a seriously important role.
 
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bullus_hit said:
Given that player was Brandan Parfitt it's hard for me to disagree.

If we had of kept [ick 24 would we have taken Bolton at that pick given how the club supposedly rated him?? In that case would have Parfitt then lasted to pick 29?
 
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TigerPort said:
If we had of kept [ick 24 would we have taken Bolton at that pick given how the club supposedly rated him?? In that case would have Parfitt then lasted to pick 29?

Not sure but probably, most had him going to Port with a pick in the 30's.