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Ivan Maric
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Tigers of Old said:
Groundhog day I guess. For the last three years we continually read and hear where they (the team) admittedly stated they could have done better or where they failed to execute a better overall game plan. There seems to be a weakness in the dynamics of the team, a flaw in our game plan, or even a lack of discipline from the coaching staff.
I am disgusted to read they did not execute a 100% effort in another cut elimination final. I hope Maric has one more season in the tank and there is no denial he is a warrior on the field, however I'm worried about him going all the way through the 2016 season. Maric needs to be carefully managed to prolong his energy and keep him fit if we go into another finals campaign in 2016. Griffiths or Vickery need to step up another notch or two to fill the void. Mcbean is another option to learn their gig too. If they can't then we may see all of Maric, Vickery, & Griffiths moved on.
I don't have a good feeling for 2016.
axlefoley said:
Maric saying he wants to return to his aggressive approach next year.
Cotchin saying he will be ruthless about making sure we are on the right track, saying he has a lot more to offer.
:spin :spin :spin :spin :spin :spin :spin :spin :spin :spin :spin :spin :spin :spin
Its always next year with these blokes. Has been since the 2013 finals disaster.
And we will hear the same this time next year no doubt as another season is meekly surrendered.
Groundhog day.
Leysy Days said:
Right on. Mr L. :clap
We have to be able to tighten up at ground level at the CBs. If their ruck is having a picnic to shut down the outlets. Hence Townsend, not that one unproven inside hunter is enough. Gawd knows we need Ivan to do more hunting and less spectating.
I don't mind us just totally giving up on the ruck (and we clearly have) provided our ruckman and mids can play tight for spells. They're way too loose ATM. Borderline witnesses. Ivan's gotta lift or go. Spite would be a good start.
Leysy Days said:
I agree with your diagnosis of the problem, but not the analysis of our response.
Personally, I reckon not moving on rucks was a pragmatic response to the situation. Ivan is a battling, middling ruck, he has his good days and bad, but he's who we've got. Hampson hasn't worked out as well as we'd liked, is probably a overpaid and his contract is probably a year too long, but as a back up ruck he's OK, and again, he's who we've got.
Throw in TY and griff and our ruck division is just OK, middling, as is most sides. Given that, and given there are really only 3 or 4 bona-fide consistently dominant rucks in the comp who aren't going anywhere, we made the pragmatic decision to sit pat, that poaching a ruckman was too hard and expensive, correct IMO. Or to put it another way, our hands are tied, both internally in terms of contracted rucks, and externally in terms of what was available.
Problem is against the cream our mediocre rucks are uncompetitive and are the single chief reason we have lost 2 of our 3 finals.
We don't need to be elite, we just need to get to a stage we can compete. There were rucks around this trade period that could have provided that.
We can't cry bad luck if badly losing the rucks costs us another final ILHO cos Maric and Hampson are still going to get towelled.
The one way of thinking leysy could entertain - they believe Griff or TV can and will be be moved into the number 1 ruck role as the year progresses.
That could give us some chance of holding our own.
We don't need to be elite, we just need to get to a stage we can compete. There were rucks around this trade period that could have provided that.
We can't cry bad luck if badly losing the rucks costs us another final ILHO cos Maric and Hampson are still going to get towelled.
The one way of thinking leysy could entertain - they believe Griff or TV can and will be be moved into the number 1 ruck role as the year progresses.
That could give us some chance of holding our own.
Leysy Days said:
Honestly there were times last year that Ivvy looked to be moving in slow motion. A transition of some sort needs to happen.
antman said:
The stats man was talking more about height wasn't he?
I think he said, we've got enough 200 cm rucks, if we're going after one, it'll be a monster.
Chol's a speculative rookie pick. He may also grow and I don't think we're really sure at this stage where his best spot will be. He could be a key position player or a ruck man depending on how he develops.
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