Indigenous Voice Yes or No?

[Sintiger]

Invaders Peaceful settlers just like the Mayflower.

Another fallacy

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-54199565

Though there was a sense of détente in those early years, largely because the Wampanoag were keen to enlist allies against a rival tribe, it quickly fell apart. Native Americans became victims of the colonists; prey to their land grabs, the exploitation of their natural resources and the fatal diseases imported from Europe from which they had no immunity. All these tensions erupted in a series of wars between the indigenous inhabitants of New England and the colonisers who robbed them of their land. This, then, is a story more of conflict than collaboration, of bloodshed, not brotherhood. Thanksgiving feasts were sometimes held to celebrate victories over the Native Americans.

 

[DavidSSS]

A group of foreigners landed on the shores of this country and imposed their government across the whole place.

Exactly how is that not an invasion?

DS

 

[Coburgtiger]

Invaders Peaceful settlers just like the Mayflower. An Invasion is when in WW2 Germany invaded Poland, Belgium, France Greece. Then North Korea against South Korea. North Vietnam against South Vietnam . Now on our hands Putin invading the Ukraine . Maybe they were as Putin dubs his Ukraine excursion a "as special military operation ".

First Fleet 11 ships with crew & families onboard. Reverend Johnson on board with wife & servants Yeah where going to invade the Great Southern Land & we will take Mum & the kids with us.

The ships HMS Sirius a 20 gun 520 Tonnne
HMS Supply a armed Tender 170 Tonne

Transports Convicts with Marines as Guards

Alexander Barque
Charlotte Transport
Lady Penhryn Transport
Prince of Wales Barque
Scarborough Transport
Friendship Brig

Supply Ships Golden Grove
Fishburn
Borrowdale

Lol now biological warfare. Thats new.

Invasion Bedtime lullaby for the Dreamtimers.

Holy crap.

Having your own opinion is one thing, having your own entirely unique version of reality is another.

I'm sorry the education system has failed you so badly.

 

[Tigaman]

Another grab FMG Twiggy Forrest V Jindibarndi Aboriiginal Corp ( YAC) on Royalties Going rate Royalties Pilbara s 0.5% land holders & 7.5% State. YAC want 10%. 10% a year AUD $500 Million .Going to Federal Court>Area in dispute is Roebourne one place you do not stop when caravanning. FMG has offered $4 million a year with life time of mine in question 20 years Roebourne population 900.

 

[Tigaman]

Holy crap.

Having your own opinion is one thing, having your own entirely unique version of reality is another.

I'm sorry the education system has failed you so badly.

History First Fleet Wikipedia explains the peaceful Colonists arriving first anchoring in unsuitable Botany Bay then few days later at Port Jackson aka Sydney Harbour. They spent 252 days at sea & were in no condition to invade a opposing hostile force.

Invasion The Act of In Invading : The Act of the Army that invades for conquest & plunder.

The schools of my time did not let me down or fellow students one iota St Mary's Catholic School Caulfield ,Our Lady's School Catholic Sunshine & Saint Augustine's CBC Yarraville.

 

[Coburgtiger]

History First Fleet Wikipedia explains the peaceful Colonists arriving first anchoring in unsuitable Botany Bay then few days later at Port Jackson aka Sydney Harbour. They spent 252 days at sea & were in no condition to invade a opposing hostile force.

Invasion The Act of In Invading : The Act of the Army that invades for conquest & plunder.

The schools of my time did not let me down or fellow students one iota St Mary's Catholic School Caulfield ,Our Lady's School Catholic Sunshine & Saint Augustine's CBC Yarraville.

Ah yes. I see which version of history you were served.

The white people brought culture and Jesus to the savages, and won them over with tea and biscuits.

 

[DavidSSS]

How is it peaceful in any way to take political control of a land where others are living peacefully? How is colonisation peaceful?

In any case, do you still remain ignorant of the massacres which are documented?

FFS, your schools certainly didn't let you down if you consider indoctrination to be some sort of education.

DS

 

[Baloo]

Phillip Adams (I'm not normally a fan of his) puts it quite succinctly in his tweet

https://twitter.com/x/status/1629009276659441665

 

[Baloo]

And as for the joke about no invasion, here's a little snapshot of what the Brits got up too

 

[Tigaman]

And as for the joke about no invasion, here's a little snapshot of what the Brits got up too
View attachment 18209r (Benalla 0 Massacre 1838 some times called the Faithfull

And as for the joke about no invasion, here's a little snapshot of what the Brits got up too
View attachment 18209

Benalla Massacre 1838 also known as the Faithful massacre Google that also the Waterloo. Good reading like the wild wild West in the US of A

 

[Coburgtiger]

Benalla Massacre 1838 also known as the Faithful massacre Google that also the Waterloo. Good reading like the wild wild West in the US of A

What are you trying to say?

Genuinely?

That there were no massacres? That the English just came over here and broke bread with the indigenous people? That there were no attempts to eradicate their culture or displace the people?

Do you really have the temerity to use the word peaceful?

If so, you have been so hideously indoctrinated the you, in particular, need a voice to parliament.

For no other reason than for you to listen to it. To hear and understand other views of history, and see the version of reality that wasn't organised and signed off by white Australia and the catholic Church. Hopefully it can provide those of us who are extremely sheltered an understanding of what the world is and has been like for the oldest living culture in the world in their country.

 

[eZyT]

What are you trying to say?

Genuinely?

That there were no massacres? That the English just came over here and broke bread with the indigenous people? That there were no attempts to eradicate their culture or displace the people?

Do you really have the temerity to use the word peaceful?

If so, you have been so hideously indoctrinated the you, in particular, need a voice to parliament.

For no other reason than for you to listen to it. To hear and understand other views of history, and see the version of reality that wasn't organised and signed off by white Australia and the catholic Church. Hopefully it can provide those of us who are extremely sheltered an understanding of what the world is and has been like for the oldest living culture in the world in their country.

Life is much easier and more romantic when you make up your own history.

Royce hart was my father and Aretha Franklin was my mother. They had a bit of a thing in the back of dads escort van in the carpark of The G after the '73 GF. Mum had flown out to busk acapella in Swan St. they were very much in love

 

[Tigaman]

What are you trying to say?

Genuinely?

That there were no massacres? That the English just came over here and broke bread with the indigenous people? That there were no attempts to eradicate their culture or displace the people?

Do you really have the temerity to use the word peaceful?

If so, you have been so hideously indoctrinated the you, in particular, need a voice to parliament.

For no other reason than for you to listen to it. To hear and understand other views of history, and see the version of reality that wasn't organised and signed off by white Australia and the catholic Church. Hopefully it can provide those of us who are extremely sheltered an understanding of what the world is and has been like for the oldest living culture in the world in their country.

LOL Catholic Church now in the frame . Actions of the long past either right or wrong now allow you to live in peace. You should be grateful of those actions which cannot be reversed with a sniffling useless Yea Voice which will just inflate the ego's of those who push it down our throats day in day out. Bring the Vote on so we can live in Peace.

 

[tigerman]

LOL Catholic Church now in the frame . Actions of the long past either right or wrong now allow you to live in peace. You should be grateful of those actions which cannot be reversed with a sniffling useless Yea Voice which will just inflate the ego's of those who push it down our throats day in day out. Bring the Vote on so we can live in Peace.

Yes, bring the vote on and let our indigenous brothers & sisters be shown the RESPECT of being recognised in our constitution.

This is the great Aretha Franklin in 1967- the same year as the referendum.

 

[Tigaman]

Yes, bring the vote on and let our indigenous brothers & sisters be shown the RESPECT of being recognised in our constitution.

This is the great Aretha Franklin in 1967- the same year as the referendum.

Franklin of Negro descent. 12.1% of Americans are of Negro descent & think they own the place. They are not of North American descent.

 

[Tigaman]

You don’t need to show responsibility. Start with empathy and work from there.

Who do I start empathy with ?. May be my brudder in law in Queensland. Frank 86 now brought up by his Indigenous descent grand mother in rural Queensland. Frank has never alienated himself to his Indigenous descent even though he is well suntanned. Working life successful in the pastoral & hospitality industry. Happily married four children two well suntanned. All successful in chosen fields around Sunshine Coast. Now I will be visiting Frank & family in May so do you think I should broach the subject with Frank & show empathy with him as he is of Indigenous descent.

 

[tigerman]

Franklin of Negro descent. 12.1% of Americans are of Negro descent & think they own the place. They are not of North American descent.

Have a guess how, and why they ended up in the USA

 

[Tigaman]

Have a guess how, and why they ended up in the USA

Disgusting slavery which resulted in biting the Us of A in the butt.

 

[tigerman]

Disgusting slavery which resulted in biting the Us of A in the butt.

It pleases me that you find slavery abhorrent, I feel the same way. Australia's First Nations people were used as slaves too.

 

[Baloo]