Yeah, there was no need for me to mention rape, because if an Aboriginal woman was in a relationship with a non aboriginal and had a child to him, that child wasn't deemed to be fit and proper to be an Australian citizen until the 1967 referendum. Our forebears were very inclusive weren't they?
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Indigenous Voice Yes or No?
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l wasn't born until 1968, how long do you want me to feel guilty for what happened before l was born?
Who is asking you to feel guilty? Acknowledging that the Voice is needed does not mean you are accepting guilt.
I don't want you to feel guilty. I'd just like Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islanders to be recognised in our constitution as the first peoples of this country. At the moment that is not the case.
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Before the Full Federal Court at the moment....... A legal challenge to the Australian Government seeking "fair & equal access to the age pension " for Aboriginal & Torres Strait Islander people began on Monday before the Full Federal Court. Wakka Wakka man Uncle Dennis brought the case , in which the Government faces court for the first time over its failure to close the gap in life expectancy between Indigenous & non Indigenous people ,with the Human Rights Law Centre & the Victorian Aboriginal Legal Service, & support from DLA Piper. The Full Court will consider whether indigenous people are denied equal access to the pension due to lower average life expectancy, & whether the pension age for Aboriginal & Torres Strait Island people should be lowered. Uncle Dennis & His legal will argue the gap in life expectancy means Indigenous people do not have same opportunity to retire & recieve support through age pension as other Australians etc etc etc. Source NIT (National Indigenous Times issue February To sum up they want more blood out of a bleeding stone eg Australian non Indigenous Pensioners.
Who said you had to feel guilty?
No-one, yet strangely you felt compelled to say that. That's a big tell.
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Not at all, only one reason to post about what happened in 1967.
No big tell at all.
The constitution is very vague on the executive and mainly talks about the GG and the GG in Council. In any case, it is a Westminster system, all ministers are members of parliament.
If the voice is to parliament and the executive (effectively the same thing given ministers are members of parliament) this will have to be in the referendum question.
In any case, I can't see how this is a problem.
DS
No worries, we all absolve you of guilt.
Oh, and while we're at it, you can leave now because without everything which happened before 1968 includes the occupation of Aboriginal Land, so, if you want to ignore everything before 1968 I suppose this remains Aboriginal land and we are all subjects of the UK and we all need to leave.
You see, the problem is that we benefit, every day we live here, from dispossession of Aboriginal land. So, unless we are willing to disown the dispossession, we cannot disown the responsibility for what which we benefit from every day we live here.
They go together, our living in Australia is only possible because of their dispossession.
You're not guilty, I'm not guilty, but that doesn't mean we can ignore the reason we are able to live here.
DS
This got a mention in nine.com.au today. Wakka Wakka man Uncle Dennis is Dennis James Fisher. Ron Merkel KC who is representing Wakka Wakka man Fisher that it is about " Correcting Historical Disadvantage ". OMG this lot think they were only ones Disadvantaged on this Planet. I was disadvantaged as when I came home from school after the WW2 I was fed Bread & Dripping. It was common fare then as butter & other goods were rationed. Maybe I should hit the German & Japanese Governments with a Claim that They by Their hostile actions did Cause me Grief , Anxiety by having to Survive on Bread & Dripping & we were living in Caulfield of all places. Any of you lot come home from school & had to eat Bread & Dripping ?. Maybe Albo did as He was brought up in a Housing Commission dwelling ,poor sod.
You can leave now if you are not willing to take responsibility for the very reason you can live in this country.
DS
l do but l don't need to call him a Racist Smile more than once.
l am probably allowed to live here as like many l was born here. If you feel so strongly about benefiting from white man taking over the land what are you doing about it?
All sorts of things, none of which you would be aware of.
Why are you still here if you are unwilling to take responsibility for what happened before 1968? You, and I, were only born here because of Aboriginal dispossession, if we want to take the benefit we must accept responsibility.
DS
l am not responsible for what happened before l was placed on this earth.
l am here because l was born here.
l believe the law says l can't be evicted from this country, so l will enjoy it here as long as l choose to stay here.
