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Hunt or Folau???
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brigadiertiger said:
I'd have alot more confidence in Folau making it if he had a Gaelic Football background. All of Stynes, Kennelly and O'Hailpin had played Gaelic footy at one level or another. Games at least have many similarities in concept. Pyke is an exception but he can hardly be called a success just yet. Has played 4 games this year and amassed 9 kicks in total. Is doing OK in the ruck contests but he is a big lug, 200cm and 105kgs. At least Folau has what, a year and a half or more to practise the skills. But odds are against him.
velo said:Okay I'll concede that you don't wish failure on him.
I'm not convinced that all the naysayers are like you
It would be awesome to see a player of his athletic ability rip it up in the AFL. Although raw and inconsistent, I just love watching Natanui play.
When i watching Folau playing for the Storm,i had a feeling he could make the switch with his huge leap and his pace down the wings.
He has 18 months to learn the basic skills and rules,with K.Sheedy as his number one coach.
A slow build-up next year playing for GWS starting in the V.F.L reserves,Learning the team structures and strategies should be enough to get him over the line .
Let him run around as a tall wingman, who can jump over packs.
Still i do see him going back to rugby after the four years.
I'll watch some footage of Karmichael-Hunt before i make a call on him.
I also heard that there maybe a few other names making the switch.
He has 18 months to learn the basic skills and rules,with K.Sheedy as his number one coach.
A slow build-up next year playing for GWS starting in the V.F.L reserves,Learning the team structures and strategies should be enough to get him over the line .
Let him run around as a tall wingman, who can jump over packs.
Still i do see him going back to rugby after the four years.
I'll watch some footage of Karmichael-Hunt before i make a call on him.
I also heard that there maybe a few other names making the switch.
Definitely Folau, given his height (195cm), marking ability, strength and elite speed he could definitely be turned into a dangerous key forward.
Hunt is only 186cm so he needs to learn midfield which is a far bigger ask.
Far easier to teach a guy who is super talented at marking the ball to lead to the right spots so someone can kick it to him than it is to teach a guy midfield patterns, reading the play and quality kicking skills so they can kick it to a leading forward.
Hunt is only 186cm so he needs to learn midfield which is a far bigger ask.
Far easier to teach a guy who is super talented at marking the ball to lead to the right spots so someone can kick it to him than it is to teach a guy midfield patterns, reading the play and quality kicking skills so they can kick it to a leading forward.
GoodOne said:
Thursfield
King
Thomson
Browne
Hislop
Westhoff
McGuane
Polak
Collins
Edwards
Cousins
Dea
Farmer
Grimes
McMahon
Polo
Post
Rance
White
... Is that half?
Lets call it for what it is with these two blokes.
I do not honestly believe that the AFL give two hoots as to whether or not they make it. Its a marketing tool.
Can they make it? Well, if Hunt was fair dinkum, he would have hung around and learnt the game as soon as he signed instead of heading off to France. enough said there.
As for Folau, I honestly think that this guy is really up against it. He plays wing in RL where he just has to run up and down the sidelines and do the Maori sidestep through a couple of defenders. No 360 degree vision needed. Interestingly, the Storm have come out today and said that the guy had no aerobic capacity at all.
Best of luck to both these guys though as they will find out how heavy the AFL media can scrutinise.
If RFC had signed them, the Dud - Delist would have been ringing out real quick.
I do not honestly believe that the AFL give two hoots as to whether or not they make it. Its a marketing tool.
Can they make it? Well, if Hunt was fair dinkum, he would have hung around and learnt the game as soon as he signed instead of heading off to France. enough said there.
As for Folau, I honestly think that this guy is really up against it. He plays wing in RL where he just has to run up and down the sidelines and do the Maori sidestep through a couple of defenders. No 360 degree vision needed. Interestingly, the Storm have come out today and said that the guy had no aerobic capacity at all.
Best of luck to both these guys though as they will find out how heavy the AFL media can scrutinise.
If RFC had signed them, the Dud - Delist would have been ringing out real quick.
ZeroGame said:
I don't get it. Israel could be a key forward, but many at PRE think Jack - who I think is the same size - is too small for a key forward.
Israel looks bigger then he really is because NRL players are typically not as tall as AFL players and Israel stands out from the crowd.
I don't think Jack is quite 195cm, however Israel is also over 100kg, Jack still needs to stack on some weight.poppa x said:
When you think about it Jack isn't really much of a lead and mark traditional kpp, he plays smaller and smarter than that. He's definitely kpp size, but not sure he has the straight line speed so needs to rely more on smarts.
I think it wouldn't be too hard to teach Israel to be a leading forward, he's clearly a gifted athlete and has all the tools. Just need to teach him to kick straight.
GoodOne said:
There are a few mentions of O'Hailpin and his Gaelic backgound on this thread. The O'Hailpin family come from Hurling not Gaelic, though he did play Gaelic growing up - Hunt played AFL as a junior. I think that it could be argued that Hurling is as, if not more, different to AFL as Rugby. O'Hailpin is possibly therefore the example of a player that has successfully made the late transition to Aussie rules. Add Dean Brogan and possibly Pyke from Sydney who might be a player and there are a few examples of people who have made it from sports other than Gaelic.
If we could afford to do it then I would be hughly in favor of recruiting a gun from another sport. We need to be doing something different to our competitors. At the end of the day there are now 17 other teams contesting for only 1 premiership. We need to be thinking ahead of the other 17, not just continually playing catch up.
Hunt. Played aussie rules as a junior. Kicks the footy in Rugby League. Had a go at Union where kicking the footy is common. Folau doesn't kick, suspect has never touched a Sherrin and probably doesn't even have a handle on the rules. Yes, he is one of the only players in League to take the ball above his head but all AFL players can do this anyway.
