tigerdave said:Really!!
Thanks Einstein
frawleyudud said:Last 2 games Nank had gone forward and kicked goals due to having Balta take the ruck. So what does he do. Drops Balta and moves Riewoldt out of the 50 so Nank doesn’t get the 3rd defender allowing him to dominate.
lamb22 said:Pulled the wrong reins tonight but, as I was critical historically of the same mistakes being made again and again, you need to put bad performances in context when you've won 5 more games than any other team over the last two seasons.
Tigers2011 said:Did Hardwick learn nothing from the Prelim - appears not. Does this sound familiar - thrashed in ruck & clean centre clearances; chose to play makeshift second ruck & had no option to try different option when Nankervis was being flogged by Grundy; allowed Collingwood to spread & play keepings off - at no point did we try to play one on one & force contests...To me it was Ground Hog day.
Hardwick can blame the players all he likes but the team selection & game plan plus the refusal to go 1-1 after 1/4 time when Collingwood’s plan became obvious is bewildering.
To improve we need to evolve and that includes playing two proper rucks & more midfield depth. Surely Ross & Bolton (as a midfielder) are better options than Markov & Weller.
Ridley said:Yeah but you also need to acknowledge the way we’ve played in 2019. The first two games have been really disappointing. All of the things that made us a great side have not beyond display.
2016 Richmond so far this year.
Bill James said:Collingwood took away our foward pressure by spoiling and kicking over it.
The coaches instruction, not to bomb it in. We did.
Collingwood took away our intercepts by controlled kicking to targets inside 50.
The coaches instruction stop Cox from leading, we didn't. Add to this Martin, Lambert, Prestia having really bad games and Cotchin was average putting no pressure on Collingwood kickers.
Collingwood took away our foward handball game by placing a backstop behind the stoppages
Thats the first time that has happened, it was clever. Whenever a spare man is placed behind the ball the fowards need be moving into that space. You can't allow the opposition to have a player in front and behind you, you have to move to make sure they are both behind or in front of you.
Collingwood took advantage of Grigg in the ruck by smashing the ball foward 20m and clearing our mids
We actually responded pretty well to that by putting our mids back into that space but that only exacerbated our foward handball game which then had to go around the congestion.
Anything that the coach could fix on the night was tried or ignored. We didn't get outcoached we got outplayed.
Next year we will have to play two rucks. Grundy showed the world last night how to open up Grigg.
lamb22 said:Not quite 2016 but we're struggling with the new rules. Having men off the back of the square slowed them down and pushed them sideways. Teams can get the ball in quicker and deeper now.
I think we need to get our two wingers to come off the bottom of the square and have two forwards run straight into the square.
Time will tell.
Tigers2011 said:Did Hardwick learn nothing from the Prelim - appears not. Does this sound familiar - thrashed in ruck & clean centre clearances; chose to play makeshift second ruck & had no option to try different option when Nankervis was being flogged by Grundy; allowed Collingwood to spread & play keepings off - at no point did we try to play one on one & force contests...To me it was Ground Hog day.
Hardwick can blame the players all he likes but the team selection & game plan plus the refusal to go 1-1 after 1/4 time when Collingwood’s plan became obvious is bewildering.
To improve we need to evolve and that includes playing two proper rucks & more midfield depth. Surely Ross & Bolton (as a midfielder) are better options than Markov & Weller.
Bill James said:Not sure what the coaches instructions were tonight but Collingwood played us the same way they did in the Prelim only better. Given they were so successful making our small forwards irrelevant in the prelim, (spoil over the top of them, kick over the top of them, ruck over the top of them) I find it quite staggering that we effectively dropped Balta for Castagna. ( I assume Markov came in for Rance and Bellis for Houli). Was just fantastic watching our Coleman medallist with a dodgy wrist taking centre bounces.
Eventually the other teams will work us out like Buckley has. The era of 4 small fowards, 1 ruck and corralling opposition into kicking it to our tall backs is over. Shame, I didn't expect it but I enjoyed it.
mad_tiggy911 said:Dimmas pants were pulled down tonight.
AstuteTiger said:Im not sure why we continue to bomb to contests, time after time it just shows no care with the ball by doing this. The pies were eating us up every time we did it. Bucks must of been thinking all his birthdays had come at once as Richmond kept putting it down their throats the whole game. Bucks outsmarted dimma, came in with the keeping's off game plan, plus utilized their skills to the maximum.. They literally toyed with us.