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I think Red has it right. Pro golfers in general are undoubted of a much higher standard today than eras gone by purely because of the professionalism that is part and parcel of becoming a touring pro. That all counts for nothing though if you don't have the mental strength to produce your best when it matters most and Tiger's main rivals have been found wanting in these situations time and again. I still reckon Adam Scott is the most likely to really be able to challenge Tiger if he gets his short game figured out.
 
Disco08 said:
I think Red has it right. Pro golfers in general are undoubted of a much higher standard today than eras gone by purely because of the professionalism that is part and parcel of becoming a touring pro. That all counts for nothing though if you don't have the mental strength to produce your best when it matters most and Tiger's main rivals have been found wanting in these situations time and again. I still reckon Adam Scott is the most likely to really be able to challenge Tiger if he gets his short game figured out.

Yep. That's exactly what I'm saying.

There is, generally speaking, much more depth to world golf nowadays. However, right at the very top there is a large gap between Woods and the pack that is consistently chasing him. The pack chasing him have all the skill in the world (in fact Tour stats might even say that one or two of them have just as much or even more of it than Tiger) but they cant go with him when the heat is really on and that is largely due to simply not having as much bottle as Tiger.

As for Scott, yeah, he's one of those talents I'm talking about that is in the pack chasing Tiger. His putting needs to improve, but just as I'm saying, I also think he's someone who's got to get into that hard edged space that Woods is in before he'll genuinely challenge. Put it this way: if Scott could learn to putt consistently and had the mental frame of mind of say a Raymond Floyd, then we'd really see some competition for Woods.

Its gonna be interesting to see how this Jason Day progresses over the next few years. From what I've seen and read of him, he has both the game AND the tough attitude.
 
Pfft, Red the psychologist. This thread is sickening with Red, Hayfever and Disco all having a misguided love in.

Tiger would eat all those other golfers from bygone eras for breakfast. The best, ever.
 
Suggestion in the paper today that Victoria would be better off dumping the F1 Grand Prix and hosting a top notch world class golf event instead.

Hmmmm. Love the F1 Grand Prix, but it would be great to have say an Australian Masters (or whatever) attracting most of the top 15 golfers or so in the world.

Whaddya reckon ? Could we do a "Dubai" or something even bigger ? Even if the Vic government pumps in say $6m to $10m every year, it would still have to be a big improvement financially over the Grand Prix wouldnt it given how much that thing costs/loses every year ?
 
Redford said:
Suggestion in the paper today that Victoria would be better off dumping the F1 Grand Prix and hosting a top notch world class golf event instead.

Hmmmm. Love the F1 Grand Prix, but it would be great to have say an Australian Masters (or whatever) attracting most of the top 15 golfers or so in the world.

Whaddya reckon ? Could we do a "Dubai" or something even bigger ? Even if the Vic government pumps in say $6m to $10m every year, it would still have to be a big improvement financially over the Grand Prix wouldnt it given how much that thing costs/loses every year ?
Dump the f1 & get Tiger Woods out here.
 
Back to the discussion on the lack of spine shown by todays pro golfers.

My take on this, they know if Tiger plays, Tiger wins, so lets play for second.

But they make so much $$ that they dont really care
Finish in the top 50, get invites to the big games
Make more money
Dont take any risks.

Tiger gets first prize, they share the left overs. Same goes with the sponsors and the appearance money. Share whats left after Tiger takes his bit. Same could be said for wives as well ;)

Once upon a time I thought the cheating Fijian or the Spanish tosser might take it up to Tiger. Nope, they're are now fat and lazy.

As for Scott, he looks very comfy in the top 10. Seen any improvement with his putting? No, not gunna beat Tiger anyway.

Look how crap the rest of the US are. Not gunna beat Tiger so why bother.

If Tiger keeps on going the way he is and if the rest of the field lets him, Golf will suffer.
 
I know I sound a bit like I dont understand your point gentleman,but you must remember Tiger has competed for 10 years on tour an dominated,when we look BACK at Jack we are going over a 40 year period an of course over that period there will be more guns in total then a 10 year span,I think we may just underestimate the power of Tiger in the field,these guys who DO go to water when his around finish of pretty well in events when his not there.

As for *smile* McEnroe a dead set disgrace to sport an probally the greatest sook an cheat since W G Grace
 
CC TIGER said:
As for McEnroe a dead set disgrace to sport an probally the greatest sook an cheat since W G Grace

I've heard Redders keeps about 5 pairs of leather wedges in his golf bag.
 
So CC is Tiger that dominant or is the rest just Soft?

Cos if he's that dominant now then after 40 years he'll kill the game
 
IMHO Micheal I think its a bit of both I think Tiger is that good but like Red says I dont think the guys in his shadow have quite the killer instinct of Player an co.

Simply I think Tiger is freak
 
Greg Norman outlined his thoughts on world No.1 Tiger Woods' dominance of the current scene and other issues in a pre-tournament interview with Ron Kroichick of the San Francisco Chronicle this week.

"Tiger's got the game and the confidence, and it doesn't seem like anyone else wants to step to the plate," Norman said.

"In my era, there were always three or four or five guys vying for a tournament (title). You don't see that anymore. Now we're in era where one guy dominates. Is that good for the game? I can't answer that."

I can answer for you Greg, No it's not good for the game
 
Yep Jason Day T5, very good result
Your boy's 74 on the last day dropped him a few places
 
Michael said:
Yep Jason Day T5, very good result
Your boy's 74 on the last day dropped him a few places
Great result. Must be a big chance to win on Tour as a rookie.

As for Goggin, almost always throws one bad round in when he plays four.
 
IMHO Matty's putting can be a bit iffy

When he's hot its good, but otherwise average at best
 
Some interesting discussion going on in here of late.

Sorry , been busy with my American Footy of late and haven't been on here for a while.

So , is Tiger's dominance Good or Bad for the Game.

Well , that's a good question.

Having spent a bit of time going to Tourney's on the PGA over the last 5 years or so and being privy to a bit of inside info from time too time , I'll give you my 2 cents worth.

Firstly Tiger , head and shoulder's above everybody on Tour................No Question , better Mentally , better Physically , simply Pre-ordained from Birth to be doing exactly what he's doing .............dominating.
Just like Jordan before him , born with an incredible gift , it's that simple.

Is it good for the Game ?????

I believe it's great , again bringing Jordan's name into the conversation , basketball , was the Dominate sport in the States while he was playing. When you have a Talent that is THAT GOOD , you just never get sick of watching. I believe Tiger has , and will continue to draw viewers , whether at the Tourney's or on the TV , people just can't help but watch.

The arguement regarding the strength of Competition will always be made without ever achieving a conclusive result.

Equipment alone has changed the Game to where it's impossible to compare different era's.

Nicklaus , Watson , Trevino , Palmer , Player , all tremendous players , but to compare them to this era is really a waste of energy.
Today's player's are Bigger , Stronger , Fitter , use superior equipment etc , etc , etc so it's really quite irrelevent to even go there.

I've stood on the Practice fairway and Putting Green on numerous occasions and watched Tiger......................his concerntration is incredible.

I recall watching him Putt for 30 min. solid with 4 balls from 8' . Two tee's the width of his putter to aline the head , not once while stroking a Putt did he ever move his eyeline from where the Ball was placed. Didn't sneak a peek ever !!!!!!! Now that's concerntration and control, and for what it's worth , I could of counted the putts he missed on one hand.....................in 30 mins !!!!! That's just pure ability.
On the Driving range same thing , he's alway's trying something new and never seems to mishit a single shot , Fades , tragectory , stinger's he practices every single shot you could imagine and then some.
And it NEVER get's old watching him , well , it didn't for me anyway.

I recall someone earlier mentioning Money.
It's out of control and no doubt influences the performances of Player's.

5 Top 10 finishes for the Year and another 15 Cut's made probably means in the vicinity of anywhere between 1 to 2 million , not bad for 20 weeks of work.

I've heard player's actually state , that if they hit 2 mill. early in the Year , say by June , they'll drop quite a few Tourney's off their schedule and just take time off.

So yeah , the Money does definetely affect there Line of Thinking. Tiger , he's all about the Win's , pretty much everybody else is about making a very comfortable Living.

I wouldn't say I've ever heard One Guy say that they don't think they can win on any given Week though , they all think they can win come Thursday on the 1st Tee , but by Friday Night , I'm sure a few have altered their Game Plan and you could usually put your house on it , that Tiger's Score has plenty to do with it.

I really think if Tiger's gonna win the 4 in one season , this could be it.

He know's if his Game is on , then it's him against the Course. The other's are playing for money , not the Trophy.

I really don't see anyone coming out of the Pack , it would be great to see , but I just don't see anybody with the Consistency or Drive it would take to go Head To Head with Tiger on a Weekly Basis.

Seen Day play somewhere (can't recall where at the moment) , certainly got some Game and certainly doesn't lack any confidence.

I'll enjoy seeing how he holds up to the rigor's of a full season on the Big Tour before crowning him the next Heir Apparent.

Heard the same thing 2 years ago about Jason Buckle , and that was from Aussie Pro's who all thought this Kid was the Best Player they'd ever seen for his age , yet he seems to have dropped back into the logjam of just another Good Tour player also.
They all seem to get a little distracted by the Lifestyle (which would be easy to do , mind you) and before you know it , they are just one of the 144 teeing it up every week.

Oh well , that's my take on thing's , I'm sure there's plenty who disagree , and that's fine , it would be a boring ol' place if we all thought the same thing wouldn't it.

Well Tiger's have just kicked off on Telly, better get to it and see what lie's ahead for the upcoming season I believe.

Cheers all...........
 
Absolutely gutted for Baddeley - he was brilliant against Woods but couldn't get those last couple of putts to sink.

Have never really liked Woods - still don't. But you've gotta admire him for the machine that he is. He was always gonna sink that last 20 footer. (Didn't like the way he took his cap off before the ball even dropped - showed arrogance and disrespect.)
 
Oh , c'mon Freeze , the Guy's an absolute Phenom , what's not to like if your a Golf Fan.

By the way , anyone know why the hell there's NO Coverage of this on TV here.................We can get Nationwide , LPGA , European Tour , but NO PGA.................that's Brilliant , the TV here absolutely SUCKS.