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Game Day RD 17 - Tigers V Suns

DavidSSS said:
The irony in all of this is that we are 3 games behind the top 3 teams. It shows that at our best we can compete. But we don't play our best for long enough or often enough. 3 games is remarkably close given our performances.

Last night was a shocker.

This year could have been wide open for us but we have blown too many games we should have won.

One comment above I reckon is indicative of where we are at. The comment about kicking the ball straight to MRJ when he is on a tall opponent. This is stupidity, MRJ can run but is not tall. It needs to be drilled into the players that they kick to our advantage - if we have a mismatch in height then yes you kick to the player, if we have a mismatch where we are at a height disadvantage you kick to where the player can run. This sort of stuff is basic for a professional footballer and should be ingrained. But we don't do it.

Still pretty p!ssed off about last night's performance, we just should not have lost that game. The pity is we have lost a few others this year in exactly the same way - big rush of goals from the opposition based on centre clearances. We need to perform better at this when the opposition gets a run on, not necessarily winning clearances but pressuring opposition clearances would be enough to at least slow the tide and hopefully start to shift the game.

DS
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Do you think our inability at clearance is due to players (or lack of those with the required clearance/defensive ability) or structure?

One thing that continually bothers me at centre bounce given we’re a poor clearance team is not standing shoulder to shoulder with all the opponent’s. Don’t understand why we provide space to start with.
 
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pardon if earlier referred but..
the last passage of play rewatched blew my f d up mind.
after all our history of fadeouts & experience of car crash runovers in dying seconds,
how tf did day find anderson alone with ellis for company, aarts the only b&y for 20m in any direction?

a. we dont have a plan for this scenario
b. we didnt follow the plan (FLOOD!) because..
there wasnt one
we forgot
we left it to others, which there weren't any

i dont buy any of it.
state school footy 101.
just anticipate & do it urself.
forward line.

apart from that pretty proud of their efforts against the odds.
 
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Ice said:
anyway, back to this thread, i think the loss was caused by our bottom six were not good enough

you can argue about her our bottom 6 were:

take your pick form this lot:

rioli
miller
soldo
dow
cumberland
aarts
castagna
edwards

you can carry 2 or 3 of them, but this way too many

and then we had injuries to nank and lynch
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compare with the bottom 6 or 8 against the weagles last week
rioli
gibcus
soldo
ross
lambert
ralphsmith
castagna
edwards
tigermike said:
Too many game-changing incidents, caused by Premiership stars, were the main factors in our loss. We should have won it even though our bottom six players did not play a major role.
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we would have won the game easily if the bottom six performed better
 
graystar1 said:
Did not sleep well last night after that devastating loss.
Apart from the many injuries there were other factors that cost us the win.
Short giving that 50 metre penalty turned the game around.
Castagna running into an open goal and messed it up with the opposition spoil.
Selection was another factor.
No idea who could have been selected instead of Aarts and Miller.
Can't get over a 7 goal lead and then losing.
Did my head in.
North will most likely go into the game next week favourites and rightly so.
The big question is who will we have available next week?
Huge injury list
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And the thing for us dedicated supporters again is, if we get out to an early 5 goal lead, can we trust them to hold on to a victory, especially with a further depleted line-up and such a decline in depth from prior years: (Butler), Higgins, Chol, CCJ, Caddy gone etc.

Cupboard looks pretty bare.
 
leon said:
And the thing for us dedicated supporters again is, if we get out to an early 5 goal lead, can we trust them to hold on to a victory, especially with a further depleted line-up and such a decline in depth from prior years: (Butler), Higgins, Chol, CCJ, Caddy gone etc.

Cupboard looks pretty bare.
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agreed, depth is our issue

we are competitive if we have most of our best 22 available

we are mediocre with a few injuries
 
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tigersnake said:
Many of every sides draft selections are duds, most even, including ours. Thats a fact.
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Yes, but it often seems to me that many of our high picks over recent years have been duds such as Lennon and CEllis. Even relative successes such as BEllis no longer with us. Sure we had just won the flag but we opted out of the '20 draft and traded that pick to the Moggs. They took Max Holmes, 189cm mid with plenty of speed and run, who arguably is proving a very promising mid ... just the type we could really use right now to renew our tired, aged and injury prone midfield. And he's improving steadily I'd argue after getting about a dozen games in his 1st year.
So was that just complacency or a touch of arrogance? Who have we recruited since with a high pick proving definitely better? Are RCD/ Ross/ Dow successful choices? I still have hope but only Ross is getting many AFL games.

We haven't really gained the badly needed boost some other clubs have from their highest picks. But I really should go back and do more research on it.

Yes, Gibcus looks very promising but the jury has to be out for a couple of more years yet. It's far too early to declare any draftee a definite success until a more extended period of time.

Why is it our later picks have been far more successful THAN the most precious ones?
 
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Ice said:
agreed, depth is our issue

we are competitive if we have most of our best 22 available

we are mediocre with a few injuries
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Martin
Cotchin
Balta
Lambert
Ross
Gibcus
Stack
Vlastuin
Lynch (90% of the game)
Nankervis (for last 10 mins when the Sun kicked 3goals to zip)

Is more then a few injuries.
I reckon most sides would struggle with a similar list.
 
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Brodders17 said:
Martin
Cotchin
Balta
Lambert
Ross
Gibcus
Stack
Vlastuin
Lynch (90% of the game)
Nankervis (for last 10 mins when the Sun kicked 3goals to zip)

Is more then a few injuries.
I reckon most sides would struggle with a similar list.
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Some decent ins in that list.
 
Brodders17 said:
Martin
Cotchin
Balta
Lambert
Ross
Gibcus
Stack
Vlastuin
Lynch (90% of the game)
Nankervis (for last 10 mins when the Sun kicked 3goals to zip)

Is more then a few injuries.
I reckon most sides would struggle with a similar list.
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absolutely, but my comment was more about the season overall

i think we did amazingly well for 3 quarters given this list of injuries yesterday.
 
Testing my memory…. Is this a replay of Eagles 21…. Lost after siren and Nank PCL??
 
Just clicked on the comparative ladder, on the AFL website, for the same stage of the 2019 season.
We were fifth, with 10 wins after round 16, 10-6, three wins below Geelong with 13 wins at the top.
That is a fair gap, 13 wins to 10.
Once we dot the i's and cross the t's we can defeat anyone.
 
AstuteTiger said:
A breakdown of our terrible last qtr with text & video. if you're happy to put yourself through it, click on the below link. Courtesy of one-eyed tiger forum>>

https://twitter.com/x/status/1546067514412503041
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Nightmare. And he missed Tarrant's rushed kick down the line.

Redders has highlighted the Edwards debacle with a minute to go which may have been the worst of all. I reckon the first Reiwoldt one and the Miller free kicks were not there.
 
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angle ankle said:
pardon if earlier referred but..
the last passage of play rewatched blew my f d up mind.
after all our history of fadeouts & experience of car crash runovers in dying seconds,
how tf did day find anderson alone with ellis for company, aarts the only b&y for 20m in any direction?

a. we dont have a plan for this scenario
b. we didnt follow the plan (FLOOD!) because..
there wasnt one
we forgot
we left it to others, which there weren't any

i dont buy any of it.
state school footy 101.
just anticipate & do it urself.
forward line.

apart from that pretty proud of their efforts against the odds.
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This is what Robbo thought of it.

The worst six minutes of football

When Richmond lost to Gold Coast in 2012, with a kick after the siren, then commentator Paul Roos said it was the “worst 47 seconds’’ he had seen in football. “I say that in all seriousness, I cannot believe they could lose that game.” If he was commentating now, he would probably say the final six minutes on Saturday night were the worst six minutes he had seen in football. From when Jason Castagna’s sloppy kick for goal was smothered by Charlie Ballard, to Jayden Short giving away 50m, to Dylan Grimes dropping a chest mark in the final moments of the game, the injury-ravaged Tigers inexplicably failed to kill or save the game.

A Castagna goal would have made the score 97-74 and, let’s be frank, he just had to be better in that situation, because five goals in six minutes is too big of an ask, even under Leigh Matthews’ famous theory of goals needed v minutes to play. It was an un ugly loss and could cost the Tigers a top-four spot. They would be kicking themselves. After being 40 points up against the Suns and losing, you could argue they don’t deserve a top-four finish. Still, they’ve won seven of their past 10 matches and the losses have been by a combined 11 points.
 
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