Game Day - Geelong V Richmond

[craig]

So many mistakes. Those two misses from Shai and Lynch were absolute sitters. Then Lunch missed that mark 25m out in front.

There's three goals.

This is the stuff that has killed us all season and cost us most of our losses.

It has done my head in.

 

[Mycotchinrules]

So many mistakes. Those two misses from Shai and Lynch were absolute sitters. Then Lunch missed that mark 25m out in front.

There's three goals.

I bloody hate Geelong because they always seem to be around the mark and they always lift for us. We do so much to shoot ourselves in the foot.

It's hard to take positives from close losses.

Nah JK, there's positives from tonight.

Best mid sniped early
Absolute reaming from umpires
Poor games from guns (jack, vlas, broad)
Slow start
No Balta, Cotch, Lambert, George

Geelong will hold zero fears if we get them in a final

 

[caesar]

Just had to win the clearance after the Maurice junior goal.

Did anyone else notice at the game, (you don't on TV), that after the JNR goal, a bit too late they were trying to get Lynch back to shore up defence but he was caught short and at the centre bounce had to man up on the wing, (think it was an interchange stuff up because Tom was looking at the bench in confusion).
Two things happened Geelong won the clearance so you had a tall coming into the square to try and pressure, (wouldn't have changed them winning the clearance though), but what did matter is that Lynch was not back in the hole when in the same bit of play the ball came in high for that mark. and goal.
Just one of the many could of, should of moments in the game but it was definitely a 2 minute to go plan of action they failed to get in place.

**Actually clearance could have been affected as you see on the TV the clearance player kicks over Lynch's fingertips a regular wingman may have been better placed to smother or tackle.

 

[mrposhman]

On the Prestia incident and why play didn't stop, the criteria is pretty clear for that because of the obvious potential to use it strategically. Basically play only stops if the injured player is in the immediate vicinity of play or if the stretcher enters the field.

In that instance the ball only went remotely near him on stop plays with a mark or a free kick so no reason to stop the game. We could have called for a stretcher but no staffer would use that as a tactical tool if it wasn't required.

Surely when their is a player that severely injured and they had at least 4 trainers / docs around them, the potential for them to become involved in the play should certainly be used to stop the game. There is a duty of care to Dion, but also to the medical staff on the field. They surely cannot do their jobs adequately enough, whilst looking around to ensure the ball and the players aren't heading in their direction.

I would assume the umps have the discretion to stop the game whenever they think they need to, and it was clear immediately that Dion was in a very bad way.

So you don't think they should have stopped the game??

 

[year of the tiger]

Pickett got one for a marginally high bump that may have glanced high and the bloke bounced back to his feet like a yo-yo and played out the rest of the game - didn’t even leave the field.

Compare that to Stewart’s bump - Prestia was in serious trouble after the hit, needed help to walk off the ground and will now mostly likely miss 2 games.

Difference is Stewart is a good bloke playing for a nice club, it was therefore an accident and we should go lightly on him - give me a break, throw the book at him and his apologist lying coach - they should both be suspended.

 

[jb03]

Did anyone else notice at the game, (you don't on TV), that after the JNR goal, a bit too late they were trying to get Lynch back to shore up defence but he was caught short and at the centre bounce and had to man up on the wing, (think it was an interchange stuff up because Tom was looking at the bench in confusion).
Two things happened Geelong won the clearance so you had a tall coming into the square to try and pressure, (wouldn't have changed them winning the clearance though), but what did matter is that Lynch was not back in the hole when in the same bit of play the ball came in high for that mark. and goal.
Just one of the many could of, should of moments in the game but it was definitely a 2 minute to go plan of action they failed to get in place.

He should have just run down and copped the 6-6-6 warning

 

[The Big Richo]

Surely when their is a player that severely injured and they had at least 4 trainers / docs around them, the potential for them to become involved in the play should certainly be used to stop the game. There is a duty of care to Dion, but also to the medical staff on the field. They surely cannot do their jobs adequately enough, whilst looking around to ensure the ball and the players aren't heading in their direction.

I would assume the umps have the discretion to stop the game whenever they think they need to, and it was clear immediately that Dion was in a very bad way.

So you don't think they should have stopped the game??

The control for stopping the game is actually with the medical staff (unless the ball is about to be in play near them). If you have a serious injury requiring the stretcher you signal to the bench who inform the emergency umpire who informs the umpires on field.

Unless you do that the umpires are never going to stop the game. Using the stretcher is heavily policed to stop it being tactical however and it is a necessity use only which is why you often see a player with a significant leg injury have to be assisted to hobble from one side of the ground to the bench on the other, even though there is no way they will take any further part in the game.

 

[davidc0055]

Salty doesn't believe in punitive actions. Full stop. That is what he said

He knows Stewart will get rubbed out but he thinks he shouldn't. He also knows he will get half the penalty a RFC player would get for same action.

If it wasn't for Gil and Shocking he would be the biggest *smile* in the game.

He was referring to in-game punishment, such as a send-off rule

 

[Mycotchinrules]

The control for stopping the game is actually with the medical staff (unless the ball is about to be in play near them). If you have a serious injury requiring the stretcher you signal to the bench who inform the emergency umpire who informs the umpires on field.

Unless you do that the umpires are never going to stop the game. Using the stretcher is heavily policed to stop it being tactical however and it is a necessity use only which is why you often see a player with a significant leg injury have to be assisted to hobble from one side of the ground to the bench on the other, even though there is no way they will take any further part in the game.

Thanks TBR, that makes sense.

Do you reckon our trainers were trying to call for a stretcher?

It seemed like close to 3 minutes that Dion was clearly incapacitated.

 

[The Big Richo]

Thanks TBR, that makes sense.

Do you reckon our trainers were trying to call for a stretcher?

It seemed like close to 3 minutes that Dion was clearly incapacitated.

I'm certain they didn't because once you call for the stretcher it has to be used, it's part of the rules so there can't be a oh hang on he's better type use of it to slow the game down . Assuming he was conscious and able to stand then they will always walk him off.

 

[Ridley]

He was referring to in-game punishment, such as a send-off rule

He also said you have to draw the line somewhere. I wonder where the line is. Obviously it is beyond the point where you illegaly and arguably deliberately knock out the best players midfielder which is basically the only reason you won the game.

Or is that only if it benefits Salty? I bet he wouldn't be so magnanimous and philosophical if the shoe was on the other foot.

 

[TigerForce]

He also said you have to draw the line somewhere. I wonder where the line is. Obviously it is beyond the point where you illegaly and arguably deliberately knock out the best players midfielder which is basically the only reason you won the game.

Or is that only if it benefits Salty? I bet he wouldn't be so magnanimous and philosophical if the shoe was on the other foot.

Exactly right. Out of all players, what a coincidence to knock out your best ball winner hey?

 

[Mycotchinrules]

I'm certain they didn't because once you call for the stretcher it has to be used, it's part of the rules so there can't be a oh hang on he's better type use of it to slow the game down . Assuming he was conscious and able to stand then they will always walk him off.

Sorry mate, I should know this, but if Dion gets stretchered off does that mean he's done for the day?

Hence the indecision?

 

[artball]

Exactly right. Out of all players, what a coincidence to knock out your best ball winner hey?

Targeted hit. Scott brothers were good at it in their playing days as well

 

[22nd Man]

Really disappointed in that result, first time I've really felt the juices flow all season.

Should have won, just lacked a bit of poise when it counted.

Nankervis was huge in that final term, and those people who continually bag Tarrant and Stengle must be reflecting on just how much they actually know about the game now.

On the Prestia incident and why play didn't stop, the criteria is pretty clear for that because of the obvious potential to use it strategically. Basically play only stops if the injured player is in the immediate vicinity of play or if the stretcher enters the field.

In that instance the ball only went remotely near him on stop plays with a mark or a free kick so no reason to stop the game. We could have called for a stretcher but no staffer would use that as a tactical tool if it wasn't required.

They just about kicked a pass over Dion and medicos. And that mark would have been the sensible time to stop the game.

 

[Little Ziggyadee]

I'm certain they didn't because once you call for the stretcher it has to be used, it's part of the rules so there can't be a oh hang on he's better type use of it to slow the game down . Assuming he was conscious and able to stand then they will always walk him off.

If we had the ball running into forward 50
The umpires wouldve stopped play

 

[Little Ziggyadee]

Targeted hit. Scott brothers were good at it in their playing days as well

People forget who went after Riewoldt after Riewoldt broke his shoulder..at least Riewoldt had Gehring & Hamill to help him out.
Prestia had Ballerina Edwards

 

[The Big Richo]

Exactly right. Out of all players, what a coincidence to knock out your best ball winner hey?

You genuinely think he went out to deliberately try and damage Prestia?

Sorry mate, I should know this, but if Dion gets stretchered off does that mean he's done for the day?

Hence the indecision?

It's 20 minutes of playing time, which doesn't count the breaks unlike the concussion time. No reason you couldn't use it in a concussion situation risk free essentially because they will sit the same about amount of time if they can come back anyway. You have to go straight to the rooms on a stretcher but again, inconsequential.

The thing is, despite the rubbish written after the Port game, the medical staff actually don't give a stuff about the footy, they do what they think is best for the player, always. So if they don't think he needed a stretcher, they won't call it.

 

[leon]

Hopefully this tires them down soon enough. They're getting all the frees.

You sounded surprised.

 

[leon]

Fair few frees going geelongs way as well.

You sounded surprised.