BBC said:
What has become clear in recent weeks is that Buddy was the second best player in that draft behind Deledio.
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What has become clear in recent weeks is that Buddy was the second best player in that draft behind Deledio.
tiger12 said:
Overstated I think, like "Richo would've kicked xxx more goals if he wasn't such a shocking kick". Anyway it's not my job to argue Franklin's case any more than I have. Bash away.
I wasn't taking him on at all. My stats were the same, 85 goals more at the same age, but my point was that this stat ignored the number of games played.jb03 said:
If we look at both stats we now have they show that at the same age and after the same number of games the Goal kicking records of Buddy and Richo are almost identical. I think Franklin is a game breaking enigmatic superstar but so was Richo.
LeeToRainesToRoach said:
I'm not saying "Richo good, Buddy bad", I'm saying Buddy has been in a top team whereas Richo wasn't and that makes a massive difference to their scoring opportunities, stats and overall performance. It is not an "apples to apples" comparison.
There's no doubt Buddy is a great player but I think many people get seduced by the occasional freakish thing he does without considering his overall consistency and output or the opportunities that are created for him by having a lot of other good players around him - something Richo never had.
SAF said:
Yeah but you can spin that both ways.
You could say we always kicked it to Richo hence why he got so much footy but a player like Buddy in a quality forward line with more avenues to goal, might not receive the ball as often.
Stats are what you make them.
SAF said:
Will be interesting to see how he goes from here if Hawthorn falls to mid-table or worse. If he drops away markedly I'll give the points to Richo. I don't expect he'll have another ~9 years near his top like Richo did.
Franklin's one of the best players you would ever see, on his day. The problem is the effect it has on the team. To many Hawks players just waiting for him to turn it on and when he doesn't they seem to lose at the moment.
