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Footy media , love’m or hate’ m ?

DavidSSS said:
There is no doubt that Matthews was a truly great player, he deserves the accolades he gets.

But I find things like best player of the 20th century a bit ridiculous. There are many factors which make this ridiculous: lack of memory of players from a long time ago, the changes in the game, but, most of all, recency bias.

Haydn Bunton won 3 Brownlows, including a Brownlow in his first year - but he played too long ago for anyone to remember.

Gordon Coventry is still second on the all time goal kicking list, played in the 1920s and 1930s.

Bob Pratt kicked 150 back when there were a lot less games.

There are many more I could cite.

Too hard to compare.

It is like comparing Hart, Bartlett and Martin - different game in different eras. Hart could turn a game, as could Dusty, while Bartlett was a model of consistency over 400 games which is simply amazing.

Again, too hard to compare.

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In order to begin to make definitive declarations as to who rates as the GOAT, a debate as to what the definition of what one constitutes a player as the GOAT is a starting point.

Can judgement be made without first hand observation? Can it be made by the testimonies of others? If it can only be made by personal observation then it would possibly be better to make a judgement within the sphere of your personal experience rather than that of a time outside of your own.

Finals, grand finals, premierships, home and away, individual/team performance, games/goals, leadership, the context of their opposition/resources/environment, and a vast array of demonstrated attributes and skills over the course of a player's career, etc, I imagine would be part of the discourse.
 
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Tigers of Old said:
A few years ago Leigh said Dusty was the only player he wasn't embarrassed to be compared to.

Lethal's obviously got tickets on himself.
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100%
In the last couple of years from Caro Lyold and Parrot they always say this.
'You can't argue if Leigh Matthews says it'
Or 'if Leigh Matthews says it we need to listen'
Since when has he become the chosen one??
 
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toothless said:
In order to begin to make definitive declarations as to who rates as the GOAT, a debate as to what the definition of what one constitutes a player as the GOAT is a starting point.

Can judgement be made without first hand observation? Can it be made by the testimonies of others? If it can only be made by personal observation then it would possibly be better to make a judgement within the sphere of your personal experience rather than that of a time outside of your own.

Finals, grand finals, premierships, home and away, individual/team performance, games/goals, leadership, the context of their opposition/resources/environment, and a vast array of demonstrated attributes and skills over the course of a player's career, etc, I imagine would be part of the discourse.
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The funny thing when it comes to Leigh Matthews is the way his legend has grown since he retired as a player. I don't remember people saying he was the GOAT when he was playing. Everyone knew he was a great player but all this talk of being the best ever seems to have arisen since he stopped playing.

Dusty, they have been saying this while he is still playing.

Bit revealing I reckon.

DS
 
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Tigers of Old said:
A few years ago Leigh said Dusty was the only player he wasn't embarrassed to be compared to.

Lethal's obviously got tickets on himself.
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The senile old prick now just wants to keep pushing Dusty further down the list.
Dangerfield :LOL: Leigh! You’re a *smile* head mate.
Who was the othe palooka he mentioned? Get back on your medication you old git.

Hey Lethal, you *smile* old thug, you were a very good player from yesteryear. Greatest ever? *smile* off and take those wooden teeth out when you talk.

Dusty has gone wayyyy past you.
 
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On rare occasions Lethal lets his malicious tendencies loose which shock the world.

Think back to the “Neville Bruns” incident.
 
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Graeme Richmond would not let the AFL / umpires run over us like they have in past 5-10 years !!!
 
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it's probably been mentioned somewhere else...

i don't listen to footbsall media, but ...

i happened to watch a snippet of AFL360 where Blobbo expressed his concern about
the non-50 to North and the subsequent blah blah from Dame Laura Kane. and other things... Umpiring mostly ..

he was quite exasperated. good on him for saying some of the things he did.
particularly about the lack of respect for footy fans, etc ... "we are not children" i think he said ..

I don't really dig Mark Robinson, but he got this right.
 
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The other week i mentioned that Hoyne from Champion data was telling the 2 massive Richmond Haters in Cornes & Healy 'That no team has changed the way the game has been played like Richmond' leaving Cornes Slient and Healy asking Hoyne 'what about Hawthorn? What about Geelong?"
Both copped the No
And then today i had another listen to Hoyne telling the 2 of them about sides that have a switch, *The 15 minute switch

Guess who Hoyne mentions....
its RICHMOND of 2019 & 2020:ROFLMAO::ROFLMAO: Screenshot_20240619_193905_Facebook.jpg
 
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mexican_radio said:
Watching The Front Bar tonight, a show I do enjoy. Why can’t we recruit a Josh Kennedy type?
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Interesting in what his dad said about a 1971 Hawks player called Michael (Mike) Porter been shown as deceased on last night's HoF but is still alive.
 
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This wouldn’t be over the top sensationalism journalism would it ?

Looks like we’ll be folding
 

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Mr Brightside said:
This wouldn’t be over the top sensationalism journalism would it ?

Looks like we’ll be folding
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Journo's just making sure that everybody looks so they get paid for lots of click baits. Simple scenario, if both blokes leave we push hard for the best returns we can possibly get n then hammer the *smile* out of the premium draft selections. Supposedly a strong n even draft this year so not a real lot wrong with filling up the pockets n building for the next future. We had a very strong core of similar aged talent came through a few years back n it netted us 3 flags when they reached their prime. Still got a decent core of senior premiership players on hand to guide the next gen through their starting years, so why not go for it as hard as they can if a couple of blokes walk back home.
 
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artball said:
it's probably been mentioned somewhere else...

i don't listen to footbsall media, but ...

i happened to watch a snippet of AFL360 where Blobbo expressed his concern about
the non-50 to North and the subsequent blah blah from Dame Laura Kane. and other things... Umpiring mostly ..

he was quite exasperated. good on him for saying some of the things he did.
particularly about the lack of respect for footy fans, etc ... "we are not children" i think he said ..

I don't really dig Mark Robinson, but he got this right.
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How does one “happen to watch” when one doesnt' listen to football media?
Like the British MP searching for “tractors”?
 
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