Dustin Martin

[dcstar]

http://www.theage.com.au/afl/afl-match-report/richmond-tigers-v-essendon-bombers-tigers-claw-something-from-season-20160716-gq75ke.html

Dustin Martin had a power of the ball but every second kick missed a target or fell short. He had a career-high 43 touches, but 18 of his 35 kicks were ineffective or clangers. Yet he was still probably best on the ground.

Martin is a good player, he is a long way off being the sort of great player that too many people make him out to be for the simple fact that great players do not consistently cough up the ball and hurt the team.

Simply acknowledge the reality that he turns over the ball far too often and until that changes he won't be that much use in achieving real success to a club that fails in every finals match it plays because its opponents do not tolerate this sort of thing.

 

[ratedx]

http://www.theage.com.au/afl/afl-match-report/richmond-tigers-v-essendon-bombers-tigers-claw-something-from-season-20160716-gq75ke.html

Dustin Martin had a power of the ball but every second kick missed a target or fell short. He had a career-high 43 touches, but 18 of his 35 kicks were ineffective or clangers. Yet he was still probably best on the ground.

Martin is a good player, he is a long way off being the sort of great player that too many people make him out to be for the simple fact that great players do not consistently cough up the ball and hurt the team.

Simply acknowledge the reality that he turns over the ball far too often and until that changes he won't be that much use in achieving real success to a club that fails in every finals match it plays because its opponents do not tolerate this sort of thing.

are you Mark Maclure?

Ill agree a little with his disposal effectiveness, even Dimma mentioned it in his presser.

But wasn't it Dangerfields kicking people were criticising so much the past few years? besides if you get more of the ball your gonna get more clangers, its a high pressure game, mistakes are to be expected.

 

[Jason King]

are you Mark Maclure?

Ill agree a little with his disposal effectiveness, even Dimma mentioned it in his presser.

But wasn't it Dangerfields kicking people were criticising so much the past few years? besides if you get more of the ball your gonna get more clangers, its a high pressure game, mistakes are to be expected.

Didnt stop Gazza from winning multiple brownlows now did it? Its all relative, you get more kicks (and by more kicks Dusty is getting around 20 a game) of course you get more inefficient disposals.

 

[Tigers of Old]

But wasn't it Dangerfields kicking people were criticising so much the past few years? besides if you get more of the ball your gonna get more clangers, its a high pressure game, mistakes are to be expected.

Danger still makes quite a few errors by foot but the good overwhelmingly overrides the bad.
Sure Dusty is missing some targets by foot but he's getting the ball a shedload and staying in the game for far longer.

He's really developed his endurance and the defensive side of his game has also improved.
I think he still has improvement left which is a scary prospect for the opposition.

He has taken his game to another level this year and become the superstar we'd hoped he'd be.
No doubt whatsoever he is now one of the most damaging players in the competition.

As he says himself though unfortunately that's not corresponding with the team winning.
I hope we can capitalise on having such a fine footballer.

 

[leon]

http://www.theage.com.au/afl/afl-match-report/richmond-tigers-v-essendon-bombers-tigers-claw-something-from-season-20160716-gq75ke.html

Dustin Martin had a power of the ball but every second kick missed a target or fell short. He had a career-high 43 touches, but 18 of his 35 kicks were ineffective or clangers. Yet he was still probably best on the ground.

Martin is a good player, he is a long way off being the sort of great player that too many people make him out to be for the simple fact that great players do not consistently cough up the ball and hurt the team.

Simply acknowledge the reality that he turns over the ball far too often and until that changes he won't be that much use in achieving real success to a club that fails in every finals match it plays because its opponents do not tolerate this sort of thing.

He has improved yearly, and this year in getting the ball more and his endurance.
I'd go further and call him a top player right now (top-10). But this area is the final challenge for him to improve to become absolutely elite (top-5)

But I think the turnovers are often because when he looks up and tries to find a target, it's a bare landscape ahead with our stodgy, defensive G/P and slow FL.

 

[Big Tiger]

http://www.theage.com.au/afl/afl-match-report/richmond-tigers-v-essendon-bombers-tigers-claw-something-from-season-20160716-gq75ke.html

Dustin Martin had a power of the ball but every second kick missed a target or fell short. He had a career-high 43 touches, but 18 of his 35 kicks were ineffective or clangers. Yet he was still probably best on the ground.

Martin is a good player, he is a long way off being the sort of great player that too many people make him out to be for the simple fact that great players do not consistently cough up the ball and hurt the team.

Simply acknowledge the reality that he turns over the ball far too often and until that changes he won't be that much use in achieving real success to a club that fails in every finals match it plays because its opponents do not tolerate this sort of thing.

Time to have a rest when you criticise Dusty at the moment, he's in the best few in the comp and a serious Brownlow chance. I know you can't help yourself but be critical on every aspect of the club but dusty....... Give me a break.

 

[Mr Brightside]

lot of Dustys kicks were under extreme pressure with someone hanging off him and it was just pure strength he was able to get ball on boot, stats aren't always everything, unquestionably in the best couple yesterday

 

[TigerMasochist]

Almost like Dusty's trying too hard to carry the team forward.
Could have been brilliant yesterday but was merely very good, simply because he was trying to do to much far to often.

Dusty, Cotch, BEllis n a few others constantly running around like headless chooks, calling for the ball n giving off one metre disposals to players standing flat footed or facing the wrong way, or simply constantly running in a bunch at the opposition players n ultimately tripping over themselves.

Yesterday was a massive attack of over possession, poor decision football. Most teams would have slaughtered us for our incompetence yesterday n we were fortunate Essendrugs didn't pants us.

 

[CarnTheTiges]

He also had in excess of 500 metres gained. Every time you hear a stat about the game, Dusty looks better and better.

 

[zippadeee]

Mark McClureless is a Carlton knob

 

[year of the tiger]

Mark McClureless is a Carlton knob

And he hates Richmond.

 

[saigon tiger]

Didnt stop Gazza from winning multiple brownlows now did it? Its all relative, you get more kicks (and by more kicks Dusty is getting around 20 a game) of course you get more inefficient disposals.

cant remember Gablet turning over too many possessions. Martin is top shelf but he does do a few too many nothing kicks and brain farts.

 

[Bullarto Tiger]

Can't wait for the time when Martin realises the fullest of his potential and becomes that elite player that consistently influences the outcomes of matches. He is getting there and season 2016 has been his break-out for the Tigers.
Just hope RFC are able to summon a list capable of taking each other along for a glorious ride. There is some great talent at RFC, but it slips away pretty quickly after five or six players.
Martin will reach his powers when he is surrounded by a team that is capable of dishing it up to the top tier teams.

 

[tigerlove]

cant remember Gablet turning over too many possessions. Martin is top shelf but he does do a few too many nothing kicks and brain farts.

Gablett goes down as possibly the best ever. I am comfortable with people comparing Martin negatively against Ablett.

Top 5 disposal winners this year and disposal efficiency and kick to handball ratio below:

Neale 73.4% 12.7/19.7
Dangerfield 68.2% 15.8/15.5
Hanneberry 67.7% 13.3/17.2
Treloar 74.1% 12.2/18.3
Martin 67.3% 18.6/11.6
Mitchell 72.4% 11.4/16.9
Hunter 75.2% 16.6/13.4
Kennedy 67.5% 12.6/17.1

There is no doubt that Martin can make the odd howler but this has reduced significantly compared to his earlier days possession wise. He is at th elower end of disposal efficiency in that list above but he alsu has by far the highest kick to handball ratio of everyone. Kicks are typically less accurate (or efficient) than handballs.

 

[tigerlove]

Almost like Dusty's trying too hard to carry the team forward.
Could have been brilliant yesterday but was merely very good, simply because he was trying to do to much far to often.

Nah he was quite brilliant. He is the go to player and he has been an absolute machine the last few weeks. I don't know how you can even maintain such a work rate when you are continually using your strength to win the ball. Amazing player. Clearly remember some questioning his ability to get enough disposals consistently enough at the start of the season. Think he's answered his crtiics emphatically.

 

[Scoop]

Get the contract done. Announce it at Best & Fairest.

5 years, 5.5 million.

Don’t haggle on this one just get it done.

 

[GEDS1]

What a beast ! I counted that he was in the position to receive at least another 20 possessions yesterday but was ignored, very frustrating as he could have had 60 plus !

8 million over 5 years

 

[seven]

one of the best players in the Como at the moment.

 

[Smoking Aces]

Get the contract done. Announce it at Best & Fairest.

5 years, 5.5 million.

Don’t haggle on this one just get it done.

Yep. No *smile* farting around. Will be top 3 best players in competition by end of the year.

 

[tigersnake]

Get the contract done. Announce it at Best & Fairest.

5 years, 5.5 million.

Don’t haggle on this one just get it done.

bargain at that. Have to be 600 starting point?