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Dustin Martin
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By leaving a few dollars on the table, it could/should help us land someone else who might give him a chopout in the future and help bring the success we want.
If Dusty was signed on, we could potentially be in the race for Kelly.
He's a selling point to potential free-agents and trades - come and play with Dusty, the best player in the league. Hopefully he understands that.
If Dusty was signed on, we could potentially be in the race for Kelly.
He's a selling point to potential free-agents and trades - come and play with Dusty, the best player in the league. Hopefully he understands that.
toby64 said:
valid point. maybe it is also in our best interests to wait til after the season? especially if 7 years is the talk.
Backbone said:
not just that, but you wouldn't think he'd be on 1.2 million every year. its reported that buddy was on around the $800k mark for the first couple of years and last couple of year of his 9 year contract, with the loading in the middle. I'm not gonna speculate how Dusty's contract will be loaded except to say that it's extremely unlikely to be evenly spread over 7 years.
Its fraught with danger to pay 1 players $1.2m a season. Injury or a fall from form and youre paying huge money to someone who isn't playing.
$1.2m can get you 2 very good midfielders btw. Whats Tom Mitchell on? $500k? In theory you could have Tom Mitchell and another midfielder whod be on $600k.
Of course I'd prefer to keep Dusty but if we lost him and recruited 2 very good midfielders then so be it.
$1.2m can get you 2 very good midfielders btw. Whats Tom Mitchell on? $500k? In theory you could have Tom Mitchell and another midfielder whod be on $600k.
Of course I'd prefer to keep Dusty but if we lost him and recruited 2 very good midfielders then so be it.
tigertim said:
The average wage is near $400K next year. Tom would be on well more than $500K
In Jon Ralph's chat today he basically said we have no money to chase stars and are going to move forward hoping Hampson can ruck and Nankervis and Griffiths can paly forward while the young key forwards we draft develop, he again said we are not interested in Casboult, if Dusty goes all this will change . All of words to that effect.
CC TIGER said:
Dusty's biggest fan here, but the club cant do this. They cant pay that much for that long. It will restrict us and as it is we have 4 genuine stars who have very little support and the results arent there.
Draft good kids, draft KPPs... possibly lure a fringe KPP/ruck is there is one out there.
We have "stars" Cotch, Rance, Martin and Jack. Our upward trend this year has been a combination of some depth in the middle (Caddy, Pretia, NAnk) and some progress from some that stagnated or even went backwards - B Ellis, the mozzie squad, Dave A, Grimes....even Conca before he conced out.
The window is there. For how long will depend how long the stars and the good solid citizens can deliver together? 2018-2020 ??
We dont need to lure a BIG fish, we need the C Ells. McKintosh, Short, Manadue, MArkoc types to keep improving and become VERY good players.
We have "stars" Cotch, Rance, Martin and Jack. Our upward trend this year has been a combination of some depth in the middle (Caddy, Pretia, NAnk) and some progress from some that stagnated or even went backwards - B Ellis, the mozzie squad, Dave A, Grimes....even Conca before he conced out.
The window is there. For how long will depend how long the stars and the good solid citizens can deliver together? 2018-2020 ??
We dont need to lure a BIG fish, we need the C Ells. McKintosh, Short, Manadue, MArkoc types to keep improving and become VERY good players.
CC TIGER said:
Don't believe that.
Martin is already being paid so it is only the increase in the salary that affects us and the timing is perfect as the Salary cap has been increased by $2million. Martin's increase might take $500k of that and other upgrades will be accommodated with surplus cash left after that.
Add in the retirement of Maric would free up an annual salary amount approximately the amount that Casboult is after we cannot be poor.
Unless we have also signed someone like Kelly from GWS ;D
if this is the case we may as well cash in on dusty. because playing with hampson and griffo as your ruck and 2nd key forward is not getting us a premiership. waiting too long for KP kids also.CC TIGER said:
I would think the club are much smarter than to go down this road. if anything this year I would have thought having only 1, sometimes zero key forwards is not the way to go about it all, and that this would be addresses as a matter of urgency. were so close yet so far......
Leysy Days said:
:hihi yeah Mitchell getting the same coin as Vickery. Would be on $700k plus.
Since he supposedly made up his mind to stay at the Tigers 2 weeks ago, he has gone off the boil. His last 2 matches have been average by his standards. Or maybe he took his foot off the peddle once Dangerfield got rubbed out and realized he has the Brownlow in the bag. Either way I hope he hits his straps for the remainder of the year. He is the one player we need firing weekly.
Can't believe people are willing to part ways for arguably the best player in the comp.
We are almost on the cusp of some serious success and we want to p!ss that away.
If Dusty goes we might as well not stop there.
Trade out Rance, Riewoldt and Cotchin and start the same thing all over again,
Might as well wait another 30 odd years. :
We are almost on the cusp of some serious success and we want to p!ss that away.
If Dusty goes we might as well not stop there.
Trade out Rance, Riewoldt and Cotchin and start the same thing all over again,
Might as well wait another 30 odd years. :
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Smoking Aces said:Can't believe people are willing to part ways for arguably the best player in the comp.
We are almost on the cusp of some serious success and we want to p!ss that away.
If Dusty goes we might as well not stop there.
Trade out Rance, Riewoldt and Cotchin and start the same thing all over again,
Might as well wait another 30 odd years. :
Its extraordinary.
potentially the best player weve had in 50 years, and blokes go 'yeah nah'
it just shows how messed up tiger fans are in interspace.
tigerman said:
Another interesting case is Adelaide. Despite having Davis, Tippett and Dangerfield ripped out, have recovered brilliantly and rapidly to be top of the ladder, 2017 flag favourites (along with Swans IMO). Now they could be losing Lever, Cameron and Kelly?
Sure they want to keep them all. One reason cited that maybe they won't, is because they're tight on contract deals. Many claim Adelaide won't pay up too big, too early, or go overboard at all. [Except Jerka Jenkins held out and might have got under their guard].
Yet, they don't seem in a panic; the team is very united and purposeful, playing beautiful footy. If only our players could kick 75% as well as them. This is a club without any Top 10 picks on their list, yet they dealt easily with the Bummers at ES who have several.
Why so good? Never out of the 8 for very long, or by much. Why so calm and steady despite these player losses? Well, probably because their player selections and list development are so damn good that they back themselves to be able to replace high quality players, and quickly. They've proven it. They've picked the eyes out of Victorian talent right under our noses, often with both mid and low draft picks. Most of their lost players succeed too - look at Jarryd Lyons at BFC.
My point is; whether the Crows win the flag or not, they should go close, looking the real deal ATM. Because team culture comes first; not excessive, absurd contracts to big-head, ego-driven players (or managers). Team success demands sacrifices often, by great players who value that success for their club, with their team-mates, more than just $$$$$$$$$$.
TigerPort said:
Fair comment, but we have other young players to re-contract still on higher money, I think too.
Wouldn't we love Kelly? However, doubt we could even dare to consider an offer without DM locked away. That's the thing. How much is left over to entice anyone else we really need out there?
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