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Dustin Martin

Did someone earlier post that they were expecting some big announcement from the club today at 2pm?

I haven't seen anything and was wondering what, if anything, happened?
 
This year I've had a focus on coaching with Martin. There were a number obvious adjustments Dustin Martin could make to his game to level up, and level up again. To become the best player in the AFL.

Dustin Martin made these adjustments. And the results were there for all to see.

But he's been patchy since the first half of the Port game. Everybody's got something in July. Martin has. Ya gotta do it anyway.

There is a very obvious adjustment he can make that will improve his game. It's a balance thing and it's a judgement thing and it's an acceleration thing. But he is overcooking the ball again. Just a bit. And then reinforcements stop running past because it's futile if they do. And there are don't argues. And players up the ground are a bit more covered. And he's gone four rounds before he's found space. And petrol has been used. And the energy for the sublime is already gone. Half a dozen times.

All Dusty has to do is let it go sooner and the traffic will open up for him. Then he can step through it. In and gone. Win, use forward, out the side and forward. Not all the time. In rashes. It stops them swamping him effectively.

Coaching. Response to coaching. Quicker ball use. It was the beginning of levelling up for Dusty earlier in the year.

Now, for quicker ball use he needs support. We are not running as hard as we were. More support required. For quicker ball use by Dustin Martin. And then watch the return of the Football Seer.
 
Ossie said:
I'm old enough to remember the Cloke/Raines/Wood departures. I reckon a Dusty departure would hurt more, but I still think he stays.

the rot started then. Was also painful to watch BT, Dunne (leave) even Robert Whiley end up playing at the weegles too. 4-5 years of bad list management, board chaos, sacking coaches and almost becoming extinct. Its taken ~35 years to recover.

Now as finals loom, 73K members and a genuine super star everyone else wants, the prospect of loosing Dusty is painful. Ablett, Franklin and Danger all left very good lists, Richmond are no way near what the Crows, Hawks and cats lists when they lost their superstars.

Must stay.
 
K3 said:
Did someone earlier post that they were expecting some big announcement from the club today at 2pm?

I haven't seen anything and was wondering what, if anything, happened?

Only thing today was Mitchell hanging up the boots.
 
Tiger Pops said:
the rot started then. Was also painful to watch BT, Dunne (leave) even Robert Whiley end up playing at the weegles too. 4-5 years of bad list management, board chaos, sacking coaches and almost becoming extinct. Its taken ~35 years to recover.

Now as finals loom, 73K members and a genuine super star everyone else wants, the prospect of loosing Dusty is painful. Ablett, Franklin and Danger all left very good lists, Richmond are no way near what the Crows, Hawks and cats lists when they lost their superstars.

Must stay.

Only took that long to get right due to an absolute mass of stuff-ups and stoopid decisions. Just terrible for so long...
 
Tiger Pops said:
the rot started then. Was also painful to watch BT, Dunne (leave) even Robert Whiley end up playing at the weegles too. 4-5 years of bad list management, board chaos, sacking coaches and almost becoming extinct. Its taken ~35 years to recover.

Now as finals loom, 73K members and a genuine super star everyone else wants, the prospect of loosing Dusty is painful. Ablett, Franklin and Danger all left very good lists, Richmond are no way near what the Crows, Hawks and cats lists when they lost their superstars.

Must stay.

A lot of bad luck also in the early 80s with a few guys that couldve played on at the Tigers leaving.

Monteath and Mount were definately two who dissapeared, and yep Robbie Wiley another gun not long after as well as the great Saint Francis Bourke.

Bruce Tempany packed it in from Injury, but the club also lost the likes of the great KB, Keane, Dunne and Malthouse to retirement.

Wood, Taylor, Cloke and Raines leaving didnt help and Roachys back went on him and he was stuffed too.

Young gun Full Back Stephen Pirrie did his knee and was stuffed and the club was left with a few grunt players ( Peter Welsh, Landy, Rowlings, Andy Preston, Shane Williams, Terry Smith, Greg Strachan) to try and rebuild with along with the Flea Weightman and the General Lee.

Other highly thought of younger players also moved on such as Colin Waterson, Dan Foley, Matty Wall, Michael Nugent, Michael Lockman, Wayne Shand, etc

The club never recovered.
 
craig said:
A lot of bad luck also in the early 80s with a few guys that couldve played on at the Tigers leaving.

Monteath and Mount were definately two who dissapeared, and yep Robbie Wiley another gun not long after as well as the great Saint Francis Bourke.

Bruce Tempany packed it in from Injury, but the club also lost the likes of the great KB, Keane, Dunne and Malthouse to retirement.

Wood, Taylor, Cloke and Raines leaving didnt help and Roachys back went on him and he was stuffed too.

Young gun Full Back Stephen Pirrie did his knee and was stuffed and the club was left with a few grunt players ( Peter Welsh, Landy, Rowlings, Andy Preston, Shane Williams, Terry Smith, Greg Strachan) to try and rebuild with along with the Flea Weightman and the General Lee.

Other highly thought of younger players also moved on such as Colin Waterson, Dan Foley, Matty Wall, Michael Nugent, Michael Lockman, Wayne Shand, etc

The club never recovered.

And then took shortcuts by recruiting over the hill players on good money...Martello, Sutton, Brewer, Ablett and then also got second raters from other clubs, mainly Collingwood who were nothing better than servicible. One *smile* up after another.
 
Baron Samedi said:
Ridiculous. No player would do that.
You say that, but American sports are full of it.

There comes a time when a player can leave to go to a successful club, or maybe take more money and stay at one they enjoy. Richo did it.

What if a player thinks that the current club is treading water or if another club is likely to rise faster? People bank on that all the time. Look at Ablett Jnr, Heath Shaw, Mumford.

It's more common than you think. Particularly when a player gets to the back end of their career.
 
Dyer'ere said:
This year I've had a focus on coaching with Martin. There were a number obvious adjustments Dustin Martin could make to his game to level up, and level up again. To become the best player in the AFL.

Dustin Martin made these adjustments. And the results were there for all to see.

But he's been patchy since the first half of the Port game. Everybody's got something in July. Martin has. Ya gotta do it anyway.

There is a very obvious adjustment he can make that will improve his game. It's a balance thing and it's a judgement thing and it's an acceleration thing. But he is overcooking the ball again. Just a bit. And then reinforcements stop running past because it's futile if they do. And there are don't argues. And players up the ground are a bit more covered. And he's gone four rounds before he's found space. And petrol has been used. And the energy for the sublime is already gone. Half a dozen times.

All Dusty has to do is let it go sooner and the traffic will open up for him. Then he can step through it. In and gone. Win, use forward, out the side and forward. Not all the time. In rashes. It stops them swamping him effectively.

Coaching. Response to coaching. Quicker ball use. It was the beginning of levelling up for Dusty earlier in the year.

Now, for quicker ball use he needs support. We are not running as hard as we were. More support required. For quicker ball use by Dustin Martin. And then watch the return of the Football Seer.

Jack, you've done it again.
 
The_General said:
You say that, but American sports are full of it.

There comes a time when a player can leave to go to a successful club, or maybe take more money and stay at one they enjoy. Richo did it.

What if a player thinks that the current club is treading water or if another club is likely to rise faster? People bank on that all the time. Look at Ablett Jnr, Heath Shaw, Mumford.

It's more common than you think. Particularly when a player gets to the back end of their career.

Understand veterans looking to stay in the game. Kelly to Essendon is a good example.

But to a man they are motivated by flags and team success.

The Bernard tomics of the AFL are weeded out very early.
 
The_General said:
You say that, but American sports are full of it.

There comes a time when a player can leave to go to a successful club, or maybe take more money and stay at one they enjoy. Richo did it.

What if a player thinks that the current club is treading water or if another club is likely to rise faster? People bank on that all the time. Look at Ablett Jnr, Heath Shaw, Mumford.

It's more common than you think. Particularly when a player gets to the back end of their career.
I wouldn't put any of those 3 in the category of changing clubs because their "current club is treading water or if another club is likely to rise faster".

Ablett was already at a successful club at Geelong before leaving for the money at GC.

Heath Shaw too was at a successful club at Collingwood before he was "pushed" to GWS.

Shane Mumford was at the successful Geelong side but went to Sydney for more money and better opportunities as he was behind West and Blake at Geelong.
 
I have a feeling hes going now!
My kids would be shattered, they cried when Lids went.
If he wants to go for the big money then go.

We at RFC cannot pay someone over double a year more than anyone else!
Its not the right way to go about it if club is set over next few years to reach that goal.

What Dustin or that mophead manager must understand is if Dustin stays and we can win that flag then his life is set up.
He will be a Tiget great for life.

Dusty money doesn't bring happiness. Good people around you do!

B2