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David Astbury, Thank You

Pretty impressive as a 1st year player fronting the media again this morning well spoken and he is developing really well on the field. Liked in the interview after the game that he's becoming more comfortable down back and happy to find a position down there - mobile, good skills and can take a decent mark too.
 
shawry said:
Am happy with how he is progressing and going especially a first year player, however must say in my opinion every time I have seen him he is a little bit lazy. Might jsut be me and could be wrong however have got that impression. HAving said that he is going extremely well for a fi=rst year kpp and think he has a lot to fofer the club.
Might be his fitness Shawry. First year player, only the one pre season. Next year will be very exciting.
 
Leysy Days said:
Has a far more rounded game than Posty. Have no fears Baloo.

Reckon Post's sense of belonging is holding him back - not helped by Wallace's inept use of him last year. Astbury has only had hardwick so far and seems to have had much clearer messages as to what's required. Post definitely has the attributes to be a quality footballer.
 
Freezer said:
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Reckon Post's sense of belonging is holding him back - not helped by Wallace's inept use of him last year. Astbury has only had hardwick so far and seems to have had much clearer messages as to what's required. Post definitely has the attributes to be a quality footballer.


Agree, Agree, Agree and agree even more! That is my view on a lot of players... I am not going to judge them on what they have done in the past, but rather what they will do next year and beyond once they have had harwick and his development team for a longer period of time!
 
Freezer said:
Reckon Post's sense of belonging is holding him back - not helped by Wallace's inept use of him last year. Astbury has only had hardwick so far and seems to have had much clearer messages as to what's required. Post definitely has the attributes to be a quality footballer.

Absolutely. And look how long its taken Dimma to reshape Morton and Bling's games - Morton as a mid and Bling as a half forward. Morton is just starting to get it and they've given up on Bling and sent him back to the Burgs to learn the role as a HBF. So Post might just be starting to get the hang of what Dimma wants from him.
 
Freezer said:
Reckon Post's sense of belonging is holding him back - not helped by Wallace's inept use of him last year. Astbury has only had hardwick so far and seems to have had much clearer messages as to what's required. Post definitely has the attributes to be a quality footballer.

There are some clear things that Posty lacks that Astbury has for leysy that means he will always be behind him in talent. Dave's far superior below his knees, has way better agility & is a better kick. Things that are hard to make ground on.

Saying that Jayden looks lacking in confidence or belonging as you say.
 
Saw Astbury on the TAC show on Sunday and his press conference on the RFC site, he did a great job, pretty soft spoken but articulate. He's done very well this year especially with going down back after playing as a forward. Hope he gets a rising star nomination in the next few weeks, I reckon he deserves it.

On Post I thought he did one or two decent things against collingwood, pretty quiet but I'd keep him in the side for a few more games at least. Seems some people are expecting a bit too much, he's only in his second season. We complain that our players never seem to put on any size, then we have a player who does just that and we complain because it's taking him time to get used to his bigger frame.
 
From what ive heard - the club is very happy with where Posty is at. He has the perfect body type for KP. The idea for 2010 was primarily to bulk him up. Once he had the weight - lean him up over pre-season. Did not have big expectations this year - look out in 2011/12 .

They see him as a monster KPF. Bash and crash type.
 
tha8ball said:
From what ive heard - the club is very happy with where Posty is at. He has the perfect body type for KP. The idea for 2010 was primarily to bulk him up. Once he had the weight - lean him up over pre-season. Did not have big expectations this year - look out in 2011/12 .

They see him as a monster KPF. Bash and crash type.

he might need need to be, he's not doing much else.

He seems to have lost the sticky fingers he had in his first few games.
 
jb03 said:
he might need need to be, he's not doing much else.

He seems to have lost the sticky fingers he had in his first few games.

Maybe they are covered in melted butter from the popcorn and chilli dogs and pancakes that hes been building up with !!!
 
tha8ball said:
From what ive heard - the club is very happy with where Posty is at. He has the perfect body type for KP. The idea for 2010 was primarily to bulk him up. Once he had the weight - lean him up over pre-season. Did not have big expectations this year - look out in 2011/12 .

They see him as a monster KPF. Bash and crash type.

Sounds good to me, as I just don't think he has what it takes to be a defender.

Riewoldt, Griffiths, Post up forward.

McGuane/Thursfield, Moore, Astbury down back???

Wouldn't mind another key defender actually :-\
 
for a first year player he is super composed. never panics. great attribute for the backline. along with martin we have 2 genuine players here.
 
Astbury has been a total revelation this year, especially at CHB. He has demonstrated that he can read the play well, he is very clean with his hands and has the height to be very competitive in this position.

Having said that, we need to remember that Astbury (and Post) are very young players who have been thrust into senior footy far too early. As a consequence, they will have their struggles over the next couple of seasons.

Unfortunately, a lack of decent recruiting between 1998-2003 has left big holes in our list that youngsters have to fill. As an example, Jack Riewoldt, recruited in 2006, has already played 63 senior games. Chris Dawes, Ben Reid, Lachlan Hansen, Scott Gumbleton and Matthew Louenberger, all recruited in the same year, have barely played that number of games between them. They have been able to find the pace of the game slowly at a lower level.

Surprise, surprise, they are all having breakout years in their FOURTH year on an AFL list.

We tend to forget very few players are capable of making a Chris Judd/Joel Selwood/Lance Franklin type impact in year 1 and then continue to improve over the next couple of seasons. Most have a few good games, fall away for a couple of years as they get their bodies and minds attuned to the requirements of AFL footy and come good around the age of 21-22, when they are more mature individuals.
 
TOT70 said:
Astbury has been a total revelation this year, especially at CHB. He has demonstrated that he can read the play well, he is very clean with his hands and has the height to be very competitive in this position.

Having said that, we need to remember that Astbury (and Post) are very young players who have been thrust into senior footy far too early. As a consequence, they will have their struggles over the next couple of seasons.

Unfortunately, a lack of decent recruiting between 1998-2003 has left big holes in our list that youngsters have to fill. As an example, Jack Riewoldt, recruited in 2006, has already played 63 senior games. Chris Dawes, Ben Reid, Lachlan Hansen, Scott Gumbleton and Matthew Louenberger, all recruited in the same year, have barely played that number of games between them. They have been able to find the pace of the game slowly at a lower level.

Surprise, surprise, they are all having breakout years in their FOURTH year on an AFL list.

We tend to forget very few players are capable of making a Chris Judd/Joel Selwood/Lance Franklin type impact in year 1 and then continue to improve over the next couple of seasons. Most have a few good games, fall away for a couple of years as they get their bodies and minds attuned to the requirements of AFL footy and come good around the age of 21-22, when they are more mature individuals.

Reckon you can add 04 & 05 to the years of poor recruiting TOT.
 
Leysy Days said:
Reckon you can add 04 & 05 to the years of poor recruiting TOT.

Barnzy said:
2007/2008 as well.

All of which is so well-documented in the annals of PRE that anything I could possibly add to these two discussions could only be classed as highly redundant and a waste of internet chatter-space, if such a concept is possible.

There is only so much bandwidth that can be devoted to crying over those particular bottles of spilt milk.

BTW, Barnzy. Cute girlfriend you have there. Does she appreciate your photoshop skills?
 
TOT70 said:
BTW, Barnzy. Cute girlfriend you have there. Does she appreciate your photoshop skills?

I don't think so Tot, she's too busy running off with Orlando Bloom. ;)
 
TOT70 said:
Astbury has been a total revelation this year, especially at CHB. He has demonstrated that he can read the play well, he is very clean with his hands and has the height to be very competitive in this position.

Having said that, we need to remember that Astbury (and Post) are very young players who have been thrust into senior footy far too early. As a consequence, they will have their struggles over the next couple of seasons.

Unfortunately, a lack of decent recruiting between 1998-2003 has left big holes in our list that youngsters have to fill. As an example, Jack Riewoldt, recruited in 2006, has already played 63 senior games. Chris Dawes, Ben Reid, Lachlan Hansen, Scott Gumbleton and Matthew Louenberger, all recruited in the same year, have barely played that number of games between them. They have been able to find the pace of the game slowly at a lower level.

Surprise, surprise, they are all having breakout years in their FOURTH year on an AFL list.

We tend to forget very few players are capable of making a Chris Judd/Joel Selwood/Lance Franklin type impact in year 1 and then continue to improve over the next couple of seasons. Most have a few good games, fall away for a couple of years as they get their bodies and minds attuned to the requirements of AFL footy and come good around the age of 21-22, when they are more mature individuals.

Many have decided to over look this re. Post this year TOT70.

And TV as well.