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Damien Hardwick
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Didn't Melbourne capitulate after WC beat them in a final and they went on and had a really bad year in 2020 but they bounced back in 2021.
I just think things have gone bad from the start of this season, alot of missed/injuries in the preseason and its merged into the season.
Its a reset season. Perfect opportunity to see who deserves to stay on the list and who needs to be farewelled.
We need to pick kids that don't mind getting hit, kids that mark in packs.
It's not the end, this could be the start.
I just think things have gone bad from the start of this season, alot of missed/injuries in the preseason and its merged into the season.
Its a reset season. Perfect opportunity to see who deserves to stay on the list and who needs to be farewelled.
We need to pick kids that don't mind getting hit, kids that mark in packs.
It's not the end, this could be the start.
Dimma is clearly a brilliant coach, but something is going horribly wrong this year. The kids are battling. The older players have dropped right off. We aren't running hard any more both ways and we have had a horrible Pde season with lots of injuries.
I think we should back Dimma in if his heart is still in it but review all the other areas of the clubs. Are Matt Clarke, Luke Meehan and the assistants the best we can do.
Thus whole season has been a horrible from the start. I never saw the cliff coming this quickly. We are as bad as anyone in the league at the moment. A complete rabble without a clear game style or gun kids coming through.
I think we should back Dimma in if his heart is still in it but review all the other areas of the clubs. Are Matt Clarke, Luke Meehan and the assistants the best we can do.
Thus whole season has been a horrible from the start. I never saw the cliff coming this quickly. We are as bad as anyone in the league at the moment. A complete rabble without a clear game style or gun kids coming through.
Mr Damien Hardwick had a bizarre prematch presser and a mediocre game. Maybe he left in all on the park the week before but Marlion Pickett as a defensive forward is not "Trying new things".
*smile* of a game.
*smile* of a game.
I apologise in advance but I haven’t seen or heard Hardwick’s presser but hearing this round from at least four coaches about ‘umpiring’, I fold interesting.
Are the clubs starting fight back a little and say things as they see it.
Wonder how the AFL will hit back at these clubs.
Are the clubs starting fight back a little and say things as they see it.
Wonder how the AFL will hit back at these clubs.
First thing he needs to do is get the team back to playing faster, direct footy. Kick rather than handball & adopt a contest based game plan.
We’re currently over possessing the ball & going sideways not forward. When defending, bring pressure to each opponent - don’t just zone off. Our zone just gets kicked through.
Make the game fun to play again (as well as watch) and hopefully the players will respond.
We’re currently over possessing the ball & going sideways not forward. When defending, bring pressure to each opponent - don’t just zone off. Our zone just gets kicked through.
Make the game fun to play again (as well as watch) and hopefully the players will respond.
I think it's hard for Dimma. Matt Clarke I think has had too many misses at the draft and our devolpment of young players seems to have dropped off as well. Meehan can't stop the soft tissue injuries or get us fit.
It looks like Benny has missed out on the AFL job. There is lots of work now to get the right people in the right places in the football department. We must must improve recruiting, devolpment and fitness or another long period in the wilderness awaits. We aren't Geelong with Stephen Wells in recruiting and an elite fitness staff who keeps the old blokes playing at a high level.
It looks like Benny has missed out on the AFL job. There is lots of work now to get the right people in the right places in the football department. We must must improve recruiting, devolpment and fitness or another long period in the wilderness awaits. We aren't Geelong with Stephen Wells in recruiting and an elite fitness staff who keeps the old blokes playing at a high level.
Reality is season is over , however there’s stil a mild pulse .
like to see Dimma back the kids this week , yes we should pick the best 23 , get the 4 points and prepare for the Cats , however there’s a lot that’s not working , so let’s dig a bit deeper and give some kids a real opportunity on the G next Saturday. What we are doing is not working, we definitely have the excuse of key injuries, however our system shouldn’t kick 4 goals against the Suns indoors .
Another big worry for me is our inability to win close games over the past 2 seasons , 1 we don’t put games away anymore and 2 we just don’t kick the late goals that matter or we let the opposition score.
Maybe Dimma just needs to change the messaging a bit
Also how long since we’ve used the corridor? Our brand atm is so blah
like to see Dimma back the kids this week , yes we should pick the best 23 , get the 4 points and prepare for the Cats , however there’s a lot that’s not working , so let’s dig a bit deeper and give some kids a real opportunity on the G next Saturday. What we are doing is not working, we definitely have the excuse of key injuries, however our system shouldn’t kick 4 goals against the Suns indoors .
Another big worry for me is our inability to win close games over the past 2 seasons , 1 we don’t put games away anymore and 2 we just don’t kick the late goals that matter or we let the opposition score.
Maybe Dimma just needs to change the messaging a bit
Also how long since we’ve used the corridor? Our brand atm is so blah
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Great post @waiting.
I called it two years ago - every great coach has a limited timespan at a club and a decade is the top end of that.
Love him and what he's done with the 2017-2020 immortals but he needs to move on at the end of this year.
He can still coach - another club will take him and he'll do well there. And we need to find the next Mcrea or Kingsley, no retreads like Hinkley.
I called it two years ago - every great coach has a limited timespan at a club and a decade is the top end of that.
Love him and what he's done with the 2017-2020 immortals but he needs to move on at the end of this year.
He can still coach - another club will take him and he'll do well there. And we need to find the next Mcrea or Kingsley, no retreads like Hinkley.
It was the worst day of his career i reckon.
GC started getting momentum,
And he swung Miller and Ross into the guts to give em a hurry on.
It was the perfect shitstorm
Of coach, captain, kids, all coinciding shockers
I reckon the bloke who mixes the gatorade would have forgotten to put the gatorade in yesterday.
I reckon the social media person would have left the lens cap on the camera
It was the full benny hill soundtrack from the opening bounce to the final siren
Id love to see how you draw a 20m slow motion high altitude handball to a bloke standing still, surrounded by opposition players
On a whiteboard
What happened to The Process? Authenticity? Freedom? Truth? Fun?
Quite suddenly Tigerland is downtown miseryguts
If were Celebrating our vulnerability, there should have been a pinata full of cherry ripes in the rooms and an achordion playing zydeco
We're as vulnerable as *smile*
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Im guessing he said something about Richmond beating Richmond in the press conference?
As bad as we were across the field, we would have won (unless we found another way to lose) if we could kick simple goals, and not gift simple goals up the other end.
As bad as we were across the field, we would have won (unless we found another way to lose) if we could kick simple goals, and not gift simple goals up the other end.
Fair statement. As bad as we were, we could easily have won the game. 3 goals direct from horrible D50 turnovers (again!). That 18 extra points to the Suns, and no idea what our set shot goal kicking was, I'm pretty sure at 1 point it was 1.5 and continued along at that rate throughout the game. You have Soldo's brainfade, so as bad as we were, as you say, if we'd cleaned a few things up we could have still won. Thats a massive indictment on that *smile* poor club from Surfers.
Thought about starting a thread, but then thought better of it, about what is wrong and where we go from here. Dimma will come under pressure, and fair enough thats how it works, but for me he's not the core reason and has credit in the bank.
The core reason is the AFLs equalisation policies. Sure there are other factors, but thats what it boils down to. We went all chips in on the 21 draft in an effort to beat the odds. It was a good plan, I liked it and backed it, but for it to work in terms of keeping us in contention we had to over achieve. It looks like we didn't. Right now it looks like we parred it, maybe under achieved.
As for Dimma, this is the first time he's been under extreme pressure since '16, which is a testament to him. Do we back a proven performer who may have gone stale to get us out of the hole, or do we back an unproven coach, who as I posted on another thread, has rough odds of 7 to 1 of success and a 3 year commitment? The next Dimma or the next Mark Nield?
The core reason is the AFLs equalisation policies. Sure there are other factors, but thats what it boils down to. We went all chips in on the 21 draft in an effort to beat the odds. It was a good plan, I liked it and backed it, but for it to work in terms of keeping us in contention we had to over achieve. It looks like we didn't. Right now it looks like we parred it, maybe under achieved.
As for Dimma, this is the first time he's been under extreme pressure since '16, which is a testament to him. Do we back a proven performer who may have gone stale to get us out of the hole, or do we back an unproven coach, who as I posted on another thread, has rough odds of 7 to 1 of success and a 3 year commitment? The next Dimma or the next Mark Nield?
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You are essentially saying if we played better and scored more than the opposition then we win. That applies to any losing team.
And when you give tickets away and get less than 24,000 to a tigers game you know something is wrong.
So you are saying my post was accurate?
But yeah, i know you cant really isolate a bad kick down back that gives a goal away, compared to a bad kick in the midfield that does the same, and in reality our kicking for goal and our kicking in the backline probably mirrors our kicking around the ground at the moment, but those that clearly lead to a goal or a goal missed are a lot more frustrating.
the commentators trying to talk up the Suns, while we do everything to let them win just added to that frustration. The Suns were rubbish, unfortunately we were worse!
