Agree had to go 2017 mode until Lynch back - use Pickett or Vlaustin forward as pressure and marking Caddy type role. One ruckman plus Macinstosh or Pickett basically as the Grigg role
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Damien Hardwick
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I reckon we have lost a bit of that "play the players to their strengths" mentality we had towards the end of 2017. There seemed to be a philosophy then of, ok, these are the players we have, no sense in looking at the list and saying we can't win, how do we use what we have to win?
I think success has that effect to some extent. You look at where we were, top of the tree, and look at the players who have left and figure it is no longer possible. Reflect on what was achieved and figure it can no longer be done with different players. The pressure success brings - you've won flags, why can't you keep winning flags? - I think also changes attitudes and adds pressure. We need a bit of a steam valve, maybe missing finals and the pressure coming off might help but the way we are likely to miss finals is not going to help because we all know we could have been further up the ladder with all those close losses.
Need to get back to some basics, and also sounds like DImma needs to chill out a bit . . . easier said than done in his job. Maybe a trip overseas, maybe even a trip to somewhere less familiar, don't go back to the USA and their sporting clubs, maybe a trip to a European soccer club or somewhere with quite different ideas. A refresher if you like.
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I think success has that effect to some extent. You look at where we were, top of the tree, and look at the players who have left and figure it is no longer possible. Reflect on what was achieved and figure it can no longer be done with different players. The pressure success brings - you've won flags, why can't you keep winning flags? - I think also changes attitudes and adds pressure. We need a bit of a steam valve, maybe missing finals and the pressure coming off might help but the way we are likely to miss finals is not going to help because we all know we could have been further up the ladder with all those close losses.
Need to get back to some basics, and also sounds like DImma needs to chill out a bit . . . easier said than done in his job. Maybe a trip overseas, maybe even a trip to somewhere less familiar, don't go back to the USA and their sporting clubs, maybe a trip to a European soccer club or somewhere with quite different ideas. A refresher if you like.
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Maybe a trip or 2 in Nimbin will help ease the stress. A pizza in Cambodia or cookies in Kathmandu. How about a holiday in the Bahamas floating with a bit of Buffalo Soldier playing in the background.
The fresh approach might just bring him back to reality
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I have this all wrong ? Really ? All I see is team mates contesting the same ball repeatedly or kicking straight to the opposition ruckman as Jack did with his last quick . Remind me how many goals we kicked on Friday Night again .
Get a grip People.
Are we serious, we are questioning the Greatest coach we have ever had?
He has matched Hafey. Are we serious? *smile* knuckles Like Cornes, Lyon & Robbo will 100% push for him to get the ass or walk away. They want us to implode. They don't ever go after Scott 10+yrs and FA and Longmire and what's Hinkley excuse.
The AFL brought in rules to stop Hardwick.
This is like the premier league bosses reducing the size of goals at Man City games.
It's unheard of what has happened over the last 4 years. Did they change the game after Geelong beat Melbourne by 189pts? did they change the game when Brisbane won 3 in a row?, Did Hamilton change the game in 80's after 4 years of Hawthorn & Essendon Grand finals?
It's not Hardwick's fault that the list management team hasn't given the tools to continue this great era. Constant failures at the draft have cost him and us the opportunity to snag another flag. The selection of Higgins will haunt me for another 20 yrs. He has been let down.
It's not his fault our full forward is missing basic set shot goals.
He needs them to give him kids that aren't 'project' types and select kids hungry to play and would run through Brick walls to play AFL.
Leave Hardwick alone.
Are we serious, we are questioning the Greatest coach we have ever had?
He has matched Hafey. Are we serious? *smile* knuckles Like Cornes, Lyon & Robbo will 100% push for him to get the ass or walk away. They want us to implode. They don't ever go after Scott 10+yrs and FA and Longmire and what's Hinkley excuse.
The AFL brought in rules to stop Hardwick.
This is like the premier league bosses reducing the size of goals at Man City games.
It's unheard of what has happened over the last 4 years. Did they change the game after Geelong beat Melbourne by 189pts? did they change the game when Brisbane won 3 in a row?, Did Hamilton change the game in 80's after 4 years of Hawthorn & Essendon Grand finals?
It's not Hardwick's fault that the list management team hasn't given the tools to continue this great era. Constant failures at the draft have cost him and us the opportunity to snag another flag. The selection of Higgins will haunt me for another 20 yrs. He has been let down.
It's not his fault our full forward is missing basic set shot goals.
He needs them to give him kids that aren't 'project' types and select kids hungry to play and would run through Brick walls to play AFL.
Leave Hardwick alone.
The HUN reporting this morning that Dimma “went off his nut” at the VFL game on the weekend....
Get ready for a media onslaught .......
Get ready for a media onslaught .......
Do you believe anything you read in that tabloid rag? If they said that sky was blue and grass green, I’d still go outside to check.
It would be tough for Dimma at the moment. We have butchered the last crack at a premiership he is going to get with this group. It will be tough going from the coach of the best team in the land to a rebuilding team over the next few years.
When did it come out he was on medicinal Mary Jane?
I don't mind him losing the plot, still shows he is invested.
But this is a very compelling point.
I don't mind him losing the plot, still shows he is invested.
But this is a very compelling point.
Few great points and I still want him to coach , but picking rejects like George and Aarts is on him mate no upside in them and playing players out of form completely is another issue. I don't agree playing players out of position to hasn't worked always play to your teams strengths and players.
Dimma accused of ‘going off his head’ at VFL players during Tigers-Williamstown clash. Herald Sun
Richmond coach Damien Hardwick has been accused of verbally abusing players during a VFL match at the weekend.
The triple premiership coach allegedly screamed threatening language at Williamstown players during Richmond’s VFL clash at Punt Road Oval on Saturday.
Sources at the game said Hardwick, the AFL’s longest-serving current senior coach, called opposition players “weak plus two swear words” and challenged them.
Senior Williamstown officials on Sunday night said the club was seeking a “please explain” from Richmond after the embarrassing exchange, which could also be scrutinised by the AFL.
In a club statement, Richmond confirmed that Hardwick was involved in a dispute.
“The club acknowledges there was an exchange of words following an incident in the first quarter which led to a Williamstown player being reported for rough conduct,” it said. “As far as the club is concerned, that is the end of the matter.”
The Tigers did not say whether Hardwick would be fined or sanctioned over the controversy.
A Williamstown official said fans reported Hardwick’s first-quarter outburst to officials at quarter-time.
“He verbally abused one of the Williamstown players because of a hit early in the first quarter … there was some sort of verbal altercation with Dimma (Hardwick) verbally abusing the player,” the official said.
Footage from the match appears to show Williamstown player Darby Henderson being pushed into the fence by Richmond’s Rhyan Mansell, then retaliating by striking the Tigers player from behind.
Mansell was knocked to the ground, metres from an umpire.
A Williamstown source said Hardwick then “went off his head in front of about 70 people”.
“He branded two players ‘weak f---ing pricks’ and said to them ‘come over here and I’ll show you how tough you are’,” the source said.
Richmond has denied Hardwick made the second remark.
Tigers chief executive Brendon Gale is believed to have spoken to Williamstown officials about the incident, following Richmond’s 10.14 (74) to 2.7 (19) victory.
The controversy is likely to heap more pressure on Richmond, which has slumped to ninth place on the AFL ladder after three weeks without a win.
Richmond coach Damien Hardwick has been accused of verbally abusing players during a VFL match at the weekend.
The triple premiership coach allegedly screamed threatening language at Williamstown players during Richmond’s VFL clash at Punt Road Oval on Saturday.
Sources at the game said Hardwick, the AFL’s longest-serving current senior coach, called opposition players “weak plus two swear words” and challenged them.
Senior Williamstown officials on Sunday night said the club was seeking a “please explain” from Richmond after the embarrassing exchange, which could also be scrutinised by the AFL.
In a club statement, Richmond confirmed that Hardwick was involved in a dispute.
“The club acknowledges there was an exchange of words following an incident in the first quarter which led to a Williamstown player being reported for rough conduct,” it said. “As far as the club is concerned, that is the end of the matter.”
The Tigers did not say whether Hardwick would be fined or sanctioned over the controversy.
A Williamstown official said fans reported Hardwick’s first-quarter outburst to officials at quarter-time.
“He verbally abused one of the Williamstown players because of a hit early in the first quarter … there was some sort of verbal altercation with Dimma (Hardwick) verbally abusing the player,” the official said.
Footage from the match appears to show Williamstown player Darby Henderson being pushed into the fence by Richmond’s Rhyan Mansell, then retaliating by striking the Tigers player from behind.
Mansell was knocked to the ground, metres from an umpire.
A Williamstown source said Hardwick then “went off his head in front of about 70 people”.
“He branded two players ‘weak f---ing pricks’ and said to them ‘come over here and I’ll show you how tough you are’,” the source said.
Richmond has denied Hardwick made the second remark.
Tigers chief executive Brendon Gale is believed to have spoken to Williamstown officials about the incident, following Richmond’s 10.14 (74) to 2.7 (19) victory.
The controversy is likely to heap more pressure on Richmond, which has slumped to ninth place on the AFL ladder after three weeks without a win.
The incident did involve Mansell.......
Mansell pushed a Willi player into the fence, but the player retaliated and came up and hit Mansell from behind...Mansell went to ground... in front of the umpire.
Dimma reportedly “went off his head “ in front of about 70 people, calling some Willi players “weak *smiling* pricks”, and challenged them by saying “come over near and I’ll show you how tough you are”
The club confirmed there was a dispute, but have said they will take no further action
