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Damien Hardwick

It’s been a wasted season for lots of reasons including poor team selection and coaching. A massive shame & one that Hardwick & his coaching team own.

Tonight’s forward line set up farce added to the pile of rubbish that’s occurred through the year. Clearly now we can only play one of Nank or Soldo. The irony being that Soldo gave us more at centre bounce but unfortunately is so ineffectual around the ground.

Miller’s improvement as a back plus the need for a second key forward, forces Balta to that spot & he has no instinct for it. Forwards are born (eg Cumberland) & can’t be manufactured.

With Tarrant & Gibcus, we now have four key backs and no key forwards outside an ageing Jack & injury prone Lynch.

Our best is still good enough & that adds to the frustration. But our worst (eg no clearance/stoppage ability, class midfield ball use outside of Prestia & creative ball use overall into the forward line) can only be fixed post season by recruiting & change of team structure. Hardwick can still lead the change needed but we need far more coaching talent to contribute.
great post. agree 100%.

This is a coaching and football dept issue - selections, structure, development (lack of), game plan. All year. And last year too we have failed in this area.

Balta as swingman, back and forth has confused an already pretty simple footy brain - no offense to Balta but he is rather dumb on field.
MJ was 100% needed all game, Marvel being smaller suits the implied pressure he can force on the other team's defence.
 
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Has he lost the playing group,??
Are they listening to what I'd telling them.
Because every week since the bye, 'we will go away and learn from this"
3 games in a row we have marked the ball inside 50, only to play on in the last qtr.
Not sure they listened
 
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No Lynch, no Martin up forward so why not try to steal a creative point of difference?
Nank's generally been a solid mark, reasonable kick at goal n ferociously competitive beast around a ground ball contest.
Been plenty of times that Nank n Soldo having a sneak into our forward line has resulted in a goal or two between them. Didn't happen this time n the win went begging.
Cuppla late on field, uncoachable, brain farts in a game that was a massive arm wrestle all night cost us the win.
 
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Our forward line is a mess I know we have had injuries , but gez every week it's all over the place. Chopping and changing players out of position picking players out of form.
 
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No Lynch, no Martin up forward so why not try to steal a creative point of difference?
Nank's generally been a solid mark, reasonable kick at goal n ferociously competitive beast around a ground ball contest.
Been plenty of times that Nank n Soldo having a sneak into our forward line has resulted in a goal or two between them. Didn't happen this time n the win went begging.
Cuppla late on field, uncoachable, brain farts in a game that was a massive arm wrestle all night cost us the win.
This is not a once off. this is not last night's handful of errors.

this is the week before. And the week before that.
This is the pies game last year, the Gold coast game last year, the freo game last year, the west coast game last year.

We are making it an art form. And learning not as much as we should.
 
Didn't like his post game justification of playing Nankervis & Soldo forward. It was a key reason we didn't get the win.
They looked like dinosaurs in the forward line & it was poor team selection.
 
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Has he lost the playing group,??
Are they listening to what I'd telling them.
Because every week since the bye, 'we will go away and learn from this"
3 games in a row we have marked the ball inside 50, only to play on in the last qtr.
Not sure they listened
That’s my gut feeling after last week.
No one seems to be listening
 
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Didn't like his post game justification of playing Nankervis & Soldo forward. It was a key reason we didn't get the win.
They looked like dinosaurs in the forward line & it was poor team selection.
He said that Nank was there to provide a contest and did his job; words to that effect. He’s taking the *smile*; Nank was the worst player on the ground by some margin; gave us nothing.

Dimma has lost the plot. He is really struggling. Has no answers to our predicament.
 
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Clearly has the pieces to win games.

MRJ caused instant headaches for the dockers.

Coaches were shown up badly last night.
 
Kingsley can coach. Teague can also coach but is better as an assistant.
Is this the same David Teague who back stabbed Brendan Bolton to get the Blues coaches job only to get the flick due to incompetence ? Yep
Now forward line coach and Richmond
19 rounds of this guy in 2022 is about enough , might as well join Burge at the Dawks David Teague
 
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Is this the same David Teague who back stabbed Brendan Bolton to get the Blues coaches job only to get the flick due to incompetence ? Yep
Now forward line coach and Richmond
19 rounds of this guy in 2022 is about enough , might as well join Burge at the Dawks David Teague

We are one of the top scoring clubs in the league.

I doubt last nights forward line setup was his idea though.

It smacked of Dimma’s stubbornness and conservatism.

Most of all it smacked of misplaced trust in guys like Nank and Edwards.
 
Is this the same David Teague who back stabbed Brendan Bolton to get the Blues coaches job only to get the flick due to incompetence ? Yep
Now forward line coach and Richmond
19 rounds of this guy in 2022 is about enough , might as well join Burge at the Dawks David Teague
You have this all wrong. Our ball movement forward of centre has been exceptional. Prior to the last 4 weeks we were the highest scoring team in the AFL.

It’s no coincidence our forward line has looked shot since Lynch went out.
 
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We are one of the top scoring clubs in the league.

I doubt last nights forward line setup was his idea though.

It smacked of Dimma’s stubbornness and conservatism.

Most of all it smacked of misplaced trust in guys like Nank and Edwards.
Yep. Teague doesn’t make this decision on his own. It’s a collective group.
 
You have this all wrong. Our ball movement forward of centre has been exceptional. Prior to the last 4 weeks we were the highest scoring team in the AFL.

It’s no coincidence our forward line has looked shot since Lynch went out.
Surely they have several plans/setups in place and practice them. Depending on the personnel available and/or injuries during the game.
 
Looks to me like the issue is team balance.

Tall backs: Tarrant, Gibcus, Balta, Miller, maybe add Nyuon as an up an coming tall back.
Mid backs: Grimes, Vlastuin, Broad
Small backs: D Rioli, Short, Baker, Ralphsmith, add in Stack and Mansell as fringe small defenders.

There's 10 defenders who played last night, add in Gibcus and we have half the side are defenders. No wonder they are trying to shift some into other positions, but I have to say, it isn't working. They're all defenders and best played in defence (Stack can possibly go forward, but is that his best position?).

Ok, let's attempt to move up the ground, if there is any room.

Centreline and Rovers: Cotchin, Prestia, Martin, Graham, Ross, Edwards, Dow, Bolton, Sonsie, with RCD not making it at the moment.
Wings: Pickett and McIntosh

Wings are fine, although I'd like to see Pickett play more in the middle. As for the middle it is a combo of older players declining at various rates and young players who are trying to reach AFL level, not all that successfully at the moment. Also, apart from being injured, Martin is getting older and playing more forward. Bolton is also more of a small forward but mids often also play forward. We need the younger players to get better, but we also need to be recruiting for the centreline.

Forwards, ok some issues here.

Tall forwards: Reiwoldt, Lynch, that's really it although Bauer is listed as a key forward, probably not quite tall enough at 192CM.
Mid size forwards: Cumberland - at 183cm he is clearly mid size.
Small forwards: MRJ, Aarts, Castagna, Parker.

Clearly a lot of issues here. Cumberland is great but his height is such he can't be a key forward and mid sized forward is a damned difficult role to play. But Cumberland does have a knack of getting to where the ball is about to be so could well succeed. Clearly we need key forwards and small forwards. Yes, our delivery forward is not good, but we don't have the forward structure to create enough space for forwards to present, and the issue is personnel. We need to be recruiting key forwards and small forwards. MRJ is fine and I reckon will develop. The mids can play forward and we can expect to see Martin and Bolton forward often. Castagna would need to change (learn to dispose of the ball) to be AFL level and Aarts just appears not to be AFL level.

Ruck: Nank and Soldo. Neither spectacular as tap rucks, but Soldo can do that reasonably well and Nank has other attributes. I really don't think we should be playing Nank at the moment, clearly too hampered by injury. Ryan is developing and looks like he could make it, maybe he needs some AFL games this year. Colina, we'll see, will take time. I reckon the only one there who could also play as an effective key forward is Ryan, maybe we pick him as a key forward with a little relief ruck up forward.

Couldn't work out where to put Lambert but I reckon he is, very sadly, beyond playing AFL with his hip injury. He is one of the few who really can play all over the ground.

So, my conclusion is that our list is a bit of a mess. This is not surprising with lower draft picks coming from being successful. While drafting should be best available, I would say if best available is a small back, then don't go there, we have too many. We need to be targetting needs - mids, key forwards and small forwards. Not easy positions to recruit for though.

Time to seriously look at list balance.

DS
 
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For mere mortals like us what was the logic behind playing Nank forward? I just don't get it...

I would say we needed another tall forward, Nank is injured so could not play much in the ruck, Nank wanted to play through the injury. Add to this that a fit Nank would at least drag a defender away from Jack, can tackle and is not useless at ground level.

I can see the logic but I can also see too many issues, mainly that Nank is clearly too hampered to be his usual self.

DS
 
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I would say we needed another tall forward, Nank is injured so could not play much in the ruck, Nank wanted to play through the injury. Add to this that a fit Nank would at least drag a defender away from Jack, can tackle and is not useless at ground level.

I can see the logic but I can also see too many issues, mainly that Nank is clearly too hampered to be his usual self.

DS
Agree DS.
Also Dimma needs to take charge and say Nank we are spelling you.
Remember a few weeks back he said "sometimes we need to save Nank from himself".
Then he gets his way and plays anyway.
They must be scared of him or he gave them the glazed eye look of disdain that BT can attest to.

Spell the big lug.
Especially now.
He's clearly NQR.
And have a look at Ryan, Biggie whoever.

ooh and Dimma clear that plume in your office, open a window to let some air in and return to a one Captain policy.
 
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Agree DS.
Also Dimma needs to take charge and say Nank we are spelling you.
Remember a few weeks back he said "sometimes we need to save Nank from himself".
Then he gets his way and plays anyway.
They must be scared of him or he gave them the glazed eye look of disdain that BT can attest to.

Spell the big lug.
Especially now.
He's clearly NQR.
And have a look at Ryan, Biggie whoever.

ooh and Dimma clear that plume in your office, open a window to let some air in and return to a one Captain policy.
Agree to an extent Glove. Reckon you are spot on re: Nank and Dimma has said that a few times over the years about saving Nank from himself.

They hoped to get a contest out of him F50 (to replace Lynch) b/c he's prob too inj for the ruck. Makes sense I guess but when we have a lousy Fstructure to begin with, and no permanent small like MJ, it didnt work. Lynch back in (fingers crossed) prob means Soldo and Balta as a back up. Giving Nank a deserved breather.

I've got no opinion on the co-captaincy to be honest, i just cant tell inside the club what's going on with that.

But for me, I think its genuinely had an effect on both players this year, leadership can be bloody hard at times - especially the first couple of (learning) years.
Think they are almost trying too hard - funnily enough, for me, its impacted Dylan more. Nank has always given away too many FKs with trying too hard!