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Feel for Buttler, that was a gutsy knock, deserved a more honourable end.
Yer, agree, looked like his foot may have slipped the last deadly few cms. A really determined effort from a guy with naturally attacking, hitting instincts who has made his name in S/F cricket.
 
The way Roots running between wickets, if you didn't know that he'd been hit in the nuts, you'd swear that he's sh!t himself:)
Guarantee he'll be able to brag about how big his nuts are. He'll be swingin a nadsac big enough to make an old friesian bull jealous.
 
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Just curious why Richardson was allowed all the bowling opportunities overall today - unlike Neser or Green. Sure, he was bowling well for a 5f but it was almost as if they wanted to give him a heap of overs. Is he penciled in for the Melb test with Hazlewood probably doubtful to come up?

I really like Neser for next Ashes tour of England. Think he'd thrive there - more, definite swing and attacks the stumps continually. Would create heaps of LBW and caught behind the wicket chances IMO.
 
what kind of tests?
Mighta tried to syringe some of the blood out n try to ease the swelling. Dunno if they still try this approach, younger bro had it done after receiving some friendly fire in a footy game many years ago. Didn't help him much, plums were more like granny smiths for a week n more.
 
Just curious why Richardson was allowed all the bowling opportunities overall today - unlike Neser or Green. Sure, he was bowling well for a 5f but it was almost as if they wanted to give him a heap of overs. Is he penciled in for the Melb test with Hazlewood probably doubtful to come up?

I really like Neser for next Ashes tour of England. Think he'd thrive there - more, definite swing and attacks the stumps continually. Would create heaps of LBW and caught behind the wicket chances IMO.

Neser does seem more of an english conditions bowler, but he's almost 32. I can't see them taking him to England.
 
I had a bloke from local footy walk into an emergency department once and casually announce he has split his scrotum. Landed heavily and popped it in the last quarter, finished the quarter, walked off the ground and got in his car in full kit, drove to hospital and walked in with blood running down both legs.

Still makes me churn 25 years later.
I was playing a summer hockey game, years ago.

The thing with summer hockey, used to be, was that there was a wide range of abilities playing. We were playing against a side that had a State League 1 player. The main reason he was a SL1 player was his ability to hit penalty corners. Hard, real hard. It was back when it was permitted to interchange when a penalty corner was awarded, so otherwise, he was pretty much on the bench.

Our player was defending a free hit, from probably 5 metres directly in front. The free hit, was an attempt to hit a target at the opposite end of the ground. Accidental undercut, and obviously, no box. BANG!!! Maybe 140 km per hour. OUCH!!
 
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Bad few days for Joe Root indeed.

But not as bad as a certain 15 mintute period for poor Roshan Mahanama at the WACA (The old fast and bouncey WACA), in a day nighter after copping two tracer bullet off cutters into the nuts in a row from none other than Curtly Ambrose in full menace from memory, the second blow shattering his box protector and resulting in Roshan off to hospital.

Will never forget it .................................. and I'm sure neither will Roshan.
Was that Roshan Mahana-nah progeny?
 
Smith just said in the post game they were managing Green's load today and didn't want to bowl him.
Yer, just heard that. Ok, but interesting. Sure he's young but it's not like he's spent hours out in the middle batting so far - just the one score of 33 / 43 balls and over 60mins. Then bowled 10 /9 overs.

At that size, the strength of an ox I reckon. Are we sure he needs so much protection?
 
Watching Caleb Jewel playing bbl now.
Son of Nick and grandson of Tony...premiership player and coach.
Wonderful history.
I am sure I saw Nics one and only game for the Tigers.
 
Neser does seem more of an english conditions bowler, but he's almost 32. I can't see them taking him to England.
If you're correct, he'd wish he was born English. Just a kid compared to the likes of Anderson, Broad and others in the past over in their conditions.

Even our great, Terry Alderman, was 33 on his 2nd English tour when he took another 40+ wickets (@ 17.36!!)
 
Smith just said in the post game they were managing Green's load today and didn't want to bowl him.

Perhaps you can explain this TBR, but why do quicks in this day and age seems to be more injury prone, thus needing to be managed and nursed through tests but in the 80's and 90's fast bowlers would pound out over after over, test after test without concern or injury? Can't recall many quicks back then injuring themselves (probably the main one I can think of was Bruce Reid).
 
If you're correct, he'd wish he was born English. Just a kid compared to the likes of Anderson, Broad and others in the past over in their conditions.

Even our great, Terry Alderman, was 33 on his 2nd English tour when he took another 40+ wickets (@ 17.36!!)
Alderman tore them a new one.
 
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Just curious why Richardson was allowed all the bowling opportunities overall today - unlike Neser or Green. Sure, he was bowling well for a 5f but it was almost as if they wanted to give him a heap of overs. Is he penciled in for the Melb test with Hazlewood probably doubtful to come up?

I really like Neser for next Ashes tour of England. Think he'd thrive there - more, definite swing and attacks the stumps continually. Would create heaps of LBW and caught behind the wicket chances IMO.
Agree, re Neser, I thought he was under bowled in the 1st innings too . Smith said when questioned after the game that he was asked not to bowl Green too much today.
Green had stress fractures in his back a couple of years ago. He is still a pup so they're probably being cautious.
Initially I thought he was going to be a batting allrounder, but he has shown in the first 2 tests that he can be a gun bowling allrounder.
 
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They'll be extra cautious because of his age. The data for stress injuries on fast bowlers has a huge spike in the early 20 years bracket, when bowling loads increase and body mass increases.

Having said that, I was a little surprised they didn't want him to bowl at all, maybe cautious given injuries and potential injuries to the other key bowlers.
Yep, good surmise, think that must explain it.

Neser though? JR got 19 overs both innings; Neser 11/13 although had a better economy rating each innings. Sure less wickets (2 v 5) after a top performance from JR this innings, but less chance too. Just looked to me like they'd made up their mind to take Richo to Melbourne if required, not Neser.
 
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If you're correct, he'd wish he was born English. Just a kid compared to the likes of Anderson, Broad and others in the past over in their conditions.

Even our great, Terry Alderman, was 33 on his 2nd English tour when he took another 40+ wickets (@ 17.36!!)

Well I am correct on his age, I didn't make it up.

I don't think they'd take him as that would make the Aussie attack quite old. The current bowling attack is Starc (nearly 32), Hazlewood (30), Cummins (28), Lyon (34).

I suspect the next tour of England will include those 4 bowlers so I can't see them taking another player who would be nearly 34 then. They'll be taking Jyhe Richardson and I suspect they will be looking for at least 1 other younger fast bowler to go with them.
 
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Agree, re Neser, I thought he was under bowled in the 1st innings too . Smith said when questioned after the game that he was asked not to bowl Green too much today.
Green had stress fractures in his back a couple of years ago. He is still a pup so they're probably being cautious.
Initially I thought he was going to be a batting allrounder, but he has shown in the first 2 tests that he can be a gun bowling allrounder.
That completes the explanation, I think. (y)
 
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I reckon your memory is failing you a bit Tommy, injuries and fast bowlers are almost a constant. Cricket Australia released data a few years ago that said at any one time about 25% in first class fast bowlers are out injured.

Just off the top of my head McDermott, Hughes, Chris Matthews, Reid, Geoff Lawson, Mitch Johnson, Brett Lee, Shane Watson, Damien Fleming, Pat Cummins, James Pattinson, Gillespie, Ryan Harris are all guys from that era and beyond that have missed significant cricket. The best ever in DK Lillee was another from earlier, as was Len Pascoe. Hazelwood and Starc have both had stress fractures as well.

It's a brutal craft that puts stress through the body unlike anything else anywhere in sport I think. Not many escape, McGrath and Jeff Thomson are two of the few I can think of that only ever had injuries from weird incidents, not bowling.
There's a book in that TB Rich
 
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I guess Richardson being picked to replace Hazelwood initially shows the pecking order the Aussie camp sees. Agree though, thought Neser bowled better for most of the game.
Yeah no doubt it's where they sit on the totem pole. The new kid gets less chances.

They had time and runs, so a good opportunity to get Richardson confident ready for boxing day.
 
I reckon your memory is failing you a bit Tommy, injuries and fast bowlers are almost a constant. Cricket Australia released data a few years ago that said at any one time about 25% in first class fast bowlers are out injured.

Just off the top of my head McDermott, Hughes, Chris Matthews, Reid, Geoff Lawson, Mitch Johnson, Brett Lee, Shane Watson, Damien Fleming, Pat Cummins, James Pattinson, Gillespie, Ryan Harris are all guys from that era and beyond that have missed significant cricket. The best ever in DK Lillee was another from earlier, as was Len Pascoe. Hazelwood and Starc have both had stress fractures as well.

It's a brutal craft that puts stress through the body unlike anything else anywhere in sport I think. Not many escape, McGrath and Jeff Thomson are two of the few I can think of that only ever had injuries from weird incidents, not bowling.
Terry Alderman’s shoulder?

Do you have to wear a ‘STAFF’ t-shirt while you’re on PRE? :)
 
Well I am correct on his age, I didn't make it up.

I don't think they'd take him as that would make the Aussie attack quite old. The current bowling attack is Starc (nearly 32), Hazlewood (30), Cummins (28), Lyon (34).

I suspect the next tour of England will include those 4 bowlers so I can't see them taking another player who would be nearly 34 then. They'll be taking Jyhe Richardson and I suspect they will be looking for at least 1 other younger fast bowler to go with them.
You've misunderstood the first point - I mean if you are correct in him not selected for next Ashes tour - not his age!

Second point has credence but cricketers are commonly playing for as long as they can manage to maintain form, physical capability and selection these days. Look at Anderson 39 and Broad 35. I'm sure the $$ in modern contracts is a big incentive to keep on keeping on as along as you can. As the best off-spinner we have by far, Lyon's age not much of an issue. Green also will provide the youth if he can maintain form and be selected as the AR.

But you may be right re Richardson as he shows potential too and much younger plus I think Neser went on last England tour but never got a test.
However, well remember the success of types like Alderman and Bob Massie over there, where it's not all about pace but often greenish, soft, low-bouncing, seaming wickets and conditions conducive to swing.