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[Ready]

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I just can't believe the bigwigs being so toothless on Murali when they cruelly halted Ian Meckiff's charge to an unprecedented one thousand Test wickets.

 

[mb64]

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I just can't believe the bigwigs being so toothless on Murali when they cruelly halted Ian Meckiff's charge to an unprecedented one thousand Test wickets.

Yep,the ICC are weak.

 

[an_oxford_man]

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I suggest you guys try Murali's action out in the backyard. It is bloody effective!

No Ball

It is a no ball in my backyard too, MB. Thankfully I play the majority of my backyard cricket at my mate's place. The 15 degree law is in action there, so right arm murali gets the job done.

 

[mb64]

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I suggest you guys try Murali's action out in the backyard. It is bloody effective!

No Ball

It is a no ball in my backyard too, MB. Thankfully I play the majority of my backyard cricket at my mate's place. The 15 degree law is in action there, so right arm murali gets the job done.

Good stuff

 

[Tigers of Old]

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Murali would be revered if he played for Australia but it wouldn't stop the rest of the world calling him a chucker. It is what it is, disability or not, he throws it.

 

[mld]

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Revered like Meckiff? I don't think you give Australians much credit there, sure there are fans that wouldn't know the difference, but most actual cricket followers here wouldn't support a guy with a dodgy action.

 

[CarnTheTiges]

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Murali would be revered if he played for Australia but it wouldn't stop the rest of the world calling him a chucker. It is what it is, disability or not, he throws it.

He's got a deformed arm, boo hoo! Either learn to bowl with the other arm or give the game away. If the rest of the world's umpires had a spine and had called him they would he had to ban him.

 

[mld]

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Any deformity is irrelevant anyway. The doosra requires about 10 degrees more straightening than his standard delivery, which in other words means he is intentionally flexing his arm more than his standard flex for certain deliveries. The ICC is spineless for legalising intentional flex in their competitions, but it still isn't in the actual laws of cricket yet and I hope it stays that way.

 

[FightingFury]

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Fair dinkum you blokes.

You've been lucky enough to support probably the most dominant cricket side in history for the last 2 decades but still go on and on about the evil little guy from the civil war torn ,third world nation -trying to cheat us.

Suprised at you Struggs,I thought you were the champion of the little guy(why else would you support the small team in Fulham)

Corrupt ICC trying to cheat us with technicalities. :'( :'(

Soft and unsporting.


PS Agree Marcel Bear is very under rated.Whenever I've seen him play, he's EVERYWHERE!

The ICC are indeed soft and derelict in their duty to the game for not just sanctioning chucking, but changing the rules to allow it!

Make no mistake, I've loved the Aussies reign of power in cricket (especially my years in London where I acquired the fine tastes like Fulham FC and not scumwood clones da chelsssh ) and will remember the champions for what they were........champions.
I just don't like seeing the greatest spinner ever getting dudded out of being the highest wicket taker ever by a bloke who would be more at home on the mound at Yankee Stadium........ Bangladeshi/Zimbabwean bully he is.

Funny how the tributes during the week all from abroad all congratulated Warne for being the greatest bowler ever huh?
Speaks volumes for mine..........

 

[mb64]

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Murali would be revered if he played for Australia but it wouldn't stop the rest of the world calling him a chucker.

If he played for Aust I'd be calling him a chucker.

 

[Tygrys]

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Muralis action has been adjudged legal and to me that is the end of the matter. They've scrutinized it with the most advanced technology available and regardless what some here may think it has been given the thumbs up (in fact the consensus as I remember was that if he was a chucker then he wasn't Robinson Curosoe - a lot of crickets greats when slowed up and likewise examined had very suspect actions). Like it or not Murali will go down in the record books as a cricket great.

As for Warne he will break the 700 wicket barrier and will hold the record for a little while yet and it will be well deserved. But let's not forget, he would have held it for longer and maybe even indefinitely if he wasn't so silly as to have taken a banned substance and gotten himself suspended for a year. When Murali eventually passes him when he does, Warne will have no one to blame but himself.

 

[Ghost Who Walks]

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Muralis action has been adjudged legal and to me that is the end of the matter. They've scrutinized it with the most advanced technology available and regardless what some here may think it has been given the thumbs up (in fact the consensus as I remember was that if he was a chucker then he wasn't Robinson Curosoe - a lot of crickets greats when slowed up and likewise examined had very suspect actions). Like it or not Murali will go down in the record books as a cricket great.

As for Warne he will break the 700 wicket barrier and will hold the record for a little while yet and it will be well deserved. But let's not forget, he would have held it for longer and maybe even indefinitely if he wasn't so silly as to have taken a banned substance and gotten himself suspended for a year. When Murali eventually passes him when he does, Warne will have no one to blame but himself.

Murali has a lot of wickets against sub shield sides in test cricket
Bangladesh
Zimbabwe

v Bangladesh            50 
v Zimbabwe              87 

 

[CarnTheTiges]

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Any record Murali sets, in fact any bowling stats recorded against his name will always be viewed with a great deal of suspicion and most cricket followers will mentally put a * next to it, because of his bowling action. The same will not and does not happen with Warne.

 

[mb64]

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Any record Murali sets, in fact any bowling stats recorded against his name will always be viewed with a great deal of suspicion and most cricket followers will mentally put a * next to it, because of his bowling action. The same will not and does not happen with Warne.

He's also been lucky to chuck down plenty of wickets against rabble sides like Zimb & Bangladesh

 

[mld]

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I guess he will always be remembered as the greatest wicket taker to never bowl a ball.

 

[Tigers of Old]

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I guess he will always be remembered as the greatest wicket taker to never bowl a ball.

True enough.
Murali can do what no other player can, hence his success.
He has an action that's been different to every other bowler in the history of the game.
He's a clever circus act but it ain't cricket and will always be viewed accordingly despite the weak rulings of the ICC.

 

[Tigers of Old]

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McGrath has announced his retirement after the 07 World Cup. So the Sydney test will be his last as well.

A great bowler who's accuracy is unrivalled and a huge reason for Australia's dominant era.

Along with Warne these players will leave a gaping hole in world cricket.

 

[tigertim]

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We'll really need McGill and either Johnson/Tait/Hilfenhaus to step up and try and cover the loss of McGrath and Warne. In the furure I think, statistically, McGill will be comparable to Warne but won't get the crunch wickets Warne gets and obviously doesnt have the charisma Warnie has.

 

[Tygrys]

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Any record Murali sets, in fact any bowling stats recorded against his name will always be viewed with a great deal of suspicion and most cricket followers will mentally put a * next to it, because of his bowling action. The same will not and does not happen with Warne.

He's also been lucky to chuck down plenty of wickets against rabble sides like Zimb & Bangladesh

Yes but that's not his fault...he can only take wickets against who he plays against. I can think of any number of different ways you could positively spin the value of his wickets versus Warne and vice versa. The fact remains they are in the record books.

Also please be mindful that when you say 'most cricket followers' that might be true here and in England etc but on the subcontinent (and which I would include Sri Lanka of course) it might be a different story. Spinners there quite often have exotic actions plus some there would just accuse us of White Caucasian sour grapes. Anyhow bearing in mind we are talking about a population of around 1.5 billion there, I think they might have us covered.

 

[zips]

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Muralis action has been adjudged legal and to me that is the end of the matter. They've scrutinized it with the most advanced technology available

What a load of crap. : It shouldn't have to come down to that. If it looks like a throw to the umpire out on the ground - then it should be judged illegal - THAT is the end of the matter. How could it be allowed to be let go out on the ground - perhaps taking the wickets to win an important test series & then having it checked in the laboratory to show that it was illegal - too late!!!! Like lbw's, they should be judged by the umpire out on the ground.