Big test for Dan. Can't have dissidents running the show given the phase we're about to enter.
If bullets end up being used then so be it.
If bullets end up being used then so be it.
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I agree.
Not if the rule is that masks are to be worn inside only, the rule is clearly communicated and supervision regarding compliance provided. Information on the risk should be clearly outlined which would in line likely see more buy in from staff as they could see the reasoning behind the control. I doubt many tradies see the benefits of wearing a mask when working outside in their own area.
Again l agree, I believe that the rule is flawed.
Of course it’s possible, it all depends on a risk assessment and additional controls that may need to be implemented (such as additional breaks), I’m talking about the way the directions are written in relation to face coverings. If your argument is against them then fair enough.
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So, you are just ignoring the fact that the compliance was woeful in their tea rooms which are indoors and chockers. Might want to check your facts before posting irrelevancies.
Anyone actually looked at the demo footage, lots of nice new, and very clean, hi vis there and people wearing hi vis on a day when the construction industry is closed down so they're not at work. I'm sure there are tensions within the CFMMEU but I doubt the ringleaders of these demos have been anywhere near a construction site in their lives.
Meanwhile:
Seems like the dancers, musicians, artists etc are a much tougher breed than the faux tough guys in construction (I think Virginia Trioli underestimates the job losses, more like thousands in an already precarious industry). Maybe they're just afraid of needles. Or maybe they just never grew beyond toddler age.
Loved the ANMF response, real unionists, the sort of people who are all for one and one for all. It's called solidarity you morons, we get vaccinated because we care about others than just ourselves.
Interesting development in NY city on mandated vaccines. Health staff took action against govt.
will be interesting how this pans out there
Judge suspends NY state vaccine mandate for health care workers who claim religious exemption
A federal judge issued a temporary restraining order Tuesday temporarily suspending New York state from enforcing its vaccine mandate if health care workers claim a religious exemption.edition.cnn.com
Ok, I'm not religious, but can someone explain to me the religious
DS
on the last point your right. ( exemption to wearing mask) Supporting yr view see link below.
There is an exemption if working in an area by yourself. Scroll down about a third of the way its there.
Face masks | Coronavirus Victoria
Face masks can prevent COVID-19 transmission.
www.coronavirus.vic.gov.au
Im religious but dont get it tbh DS. Within the article there are points raised.
Guessing its about changing the blood within their body from how they were born. Best i can say that i understood
Edit: i had heard here that certain religious groups had been seeking from the top religious figures if it will be okay to get vax. But dont fully understand on the ramifications if their blood is altered and impact to their beliefs
Edit 2: back your view on lack of construction workers non complaince of masks. (Same post u put)Seen first hand issue. Not just those big sites in city. In suburbs. They think they are above rules. Go off site & into coffee / food shops and many still dont comply.
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Yeah, I don't get the religious exemption at all, have some knowledge of various religions but brought up an atheist so no direct experience.
I see a few house renos around here and not a mask in sight
DS
Confusing post. I was solely talking about compliance regarding mask wearing outdoors and acknowledged that the indoor lunch room environment is an actual problem. I suggest you read things properly before criticising people and and calling their posts out as ‘irrelevant’.
If you’re too wound up take a break from the internet for a while and come back later.
If you would like to better understand the difficulties in scaling up hospitals I suggest you read this series of tweets from a Melbourne doctor. It is pretty much spot on imo
This sounds like Jehovah's witness *smile*. In that case why should there be exemptions.
Keep you doped with religion and sex and tv,
And you think youre so clever and classless and free,
But youre still a *smile* peasant as far as i can see.
A working class hero is something to be
a working class hero is something to be
J. Lennon
i thought up some new slogans for the cfmeu too
'solidarity sometimes, solidarity sometimes, solidarity sometimes, the union makes us ...... what did it say on facebook again?'
and
'what do we want? Horse wormer! When do we want it? After he takes it!'
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'the people, united, is a conspiracy by big pharma pedophiles with tunnels full of kids'
And you think youre so clever and classless and free,
But youre still a *smile* peasant as far as i can see.
A working class hero is something to be
a working class hero is something to be
J. Lennon
i thought up some new slogans for the cfmeu too
'solidarity sometimes, solidarity sometimes, solidarity sometimes, the union makes us ...... what did it say on facebook again?'
and
'what do we want? Horse wormer! When do we want it? After he takes it!'
and
'the people, united, is a conspiracy by big pharma pedophiles with tunnels full of kids'
Good words from Setka. The loud minority will be out of work. Plenty will line up to fill their jobs.
www.abc.net.au
Hundreds arrested as police and protesters clash at Melbourne's Shrine of Remembrance
Flares, bottles and batteries were thrown at Victoria Police by mandatory vaccination protesters who occupied the shrine.
www.abc.net.au
The JW reasoning if of course absolute rubbish but rigidly believed and so no point whatsoever in discussion.
But for those with any reasoning...from the moment we are born, probably before actually, our blood and related components like immune material, is changed every single day in multiple ways by what we eat, drink, breath, smoke,kiss,touch etc etc.
Our "God given blood" is not the same from the first breath .
Every virus contacted alters the immune make up , including blood components.
Our blood group itself does not change, including after a transfusion, so the concern is incomprehensible.
If you are vaccinated you will make anti bodies ,if you are infected you will make antibodies. NO DIFFERENCE.
Just more garbage excuses by pathetic humans self interested and resistant to common humanity.
It is no wonder that from the fall of the progressive Roman Empire till the Renaissance that the human race was mired in idiocy , despair and squalor....just 1500 years or so.
The current protesters are selfish, ignorant and uncaring persons who like the religious zealots , belong in the dark ages.
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This is just so sad. Many will have their story:
My friend was on the Westgate today, returning from visiting her dying mother. Had possibly just seen her mum for the last time. She was stuck on the bridge because of protesters. A woman alone. Petrified Especially when she saw them drag a man out of his car.
My friend was on the Westgate today, returning from visiting her dying mother. Had possibly just seen her mum for the last time. She was stuck on the bridge because of protesters. A woman alone. Petrified Especially when she saw them drag a man out of his car.
I'm not a unionist; never have been never will be. They have their place (as long as they don't abuse their power) and are important for worker protection but personally not something I've ever been involved in.
But this posted by David above is spot on and really what unions should be all about. They fact that these disgraceful protesters completely ignore this creed is an irony that none of them are likely to be intelligent enough to comprehend.
1. This. Unions need to make a very strong statement reiterating what solidarity means
2. dont shoot the messengers. This is Howards Australia. The little *smile* would be drinking champagne.
How did we get here? This is a very sad state of affairs in Victoria. I have always loved this state and city but right now I don't feel that way. I feel a bit ashamed. The actions of these morons are a stain on this once great city and state that may never be removed. I don't think I have ever seen such disgraceful behaviour. Intimidation by a mob of cowards. Jumping on the cars of innocent people stuck in the traffic jam they caused. Frightening the hell out of children. Spitting in the face of a woman sitting in her car. Dragging a man out of his car.
Yeah real courageous behaviour from a mob that won't take a little needle in their arms. It is their right to refuse vaccination. It is not their right to act like petulant children and commit acts extreme violence and thuggery. What a disgrace they are.
Yeah real courageous behaviour from a mob that won't take a little needle in their arms. It is their right to refuse vaccination. It is not their right to act like petulant children and commit acts extreme violence and thuggery. What a disgrace they are.
