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No Premier will accept community transmission regardless of vaccination rates. zero cases is the only target they have . They know the great majority of voters support lockdowns. Even NSW will get on board after this month. Higher vaccination rates of course will increase the chances of more zero weeks but there won't be tolerance for any outbreak in the next 18 months. State Borders will continue to open and shut like the proverbial dunny door.
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I don’t think the majority of voters will accept lockdowns after they are fully vaccinated, and others have been given the same opportunity. We have to learn to live with it.
Took two weeks to beat down 10 cases here in Melbourne (plus three week tail still going) and we are seasoned pros when it comes to lockdown behaviours. (Out of curiosity I wonder if Melb CBD office occupancy rate of 26% last week after lockdown lifted compares to Sydney in lockdown)
Gladys was still pushing 24 our of 35 were in isolation like that was a good number. Their gold standard contact tracing is looking a lot more like gold plating than 24 carat.
I agree with your last sentence but it's going to take a quantum mindset change from state govts and their health bureaucrats. (There are governirships in the offing)
However we may well be ready to be led into the promised land, after all the last 18 months we have proven very compliant to the dictates and urgingof our elected leaders.
What is it ultimately all about? Is lockdown lite wrong if more businesses stay open and no one dies? People still have a certain amount of freedom/opportunity to get by and health service copes? Not quite sure what their death count is up to but they might need some more outbreaks to get near the vic death mumbers?
Wouldn't know whether that is or isn't a good number, I'm not as immersed in the data so will accept your conclusion . Though I do recall how the Vic team said recently this variant spreads before we can contact trace. Maybe time for Dan to offer up the now hotshot Vic team. But there is more chance we would lend Dimma to Collingwood for the rest of the season than our states provide any support for each other. Tin pot dictators the lot of them.
Agree there does seem to be a lack of sharing of resources between states.
The latest VIC outbreak, pretty much within a week of lockdown, pretty much every case that we stated, also had the statement that they had been in isolation. Its why our number of exposure sites dropped very quickly.
There will be a time for this, the UK is a good example, 24,000 new cases, 5 deaths. This is the model we need to be moving towards, but to get there, the UK has 65% of their population fully vaccinated. We are at 9%. This is the biggest problem, as with more cases in NSW, we know at some point deaths are likely.
The big discussion that needs to be had very soon though (and the UK are debating this too now), is whether to vaccinate under 12's. My sister works as a teacher in the UK and she says that covid is running rampant throughout schools at the moment, some schools are closing BUT the kids are largely asymptomatic so aren't getting sick, but they have to have tests weekly I think in the UK in order to go to school. So cases are still high, but a lot are in kids. IMO (and I'm sure they are doing the studies), it may be better to just let kids get it (a bit like chickenpox) as they rarely get sick from it. It could be one of those scenarios where its more dangerous to give kids the vaccine than just allowing them to get Covid and allowing their immune response to deal with it, as kids natural immune response towards Covid seems to be much better than adults.
But this is all part of our plan to live with Covid. I'm not sure I heard anything like this coming out of Slomos mouth.
Yeh, that might be on scomos agenda in 2023. Or 2024. Lets not rush these things.
Not sure how valid that report is but it certainly backs up what QLD CHO Dr Jeannette Young has said.
How gutless is our Federal Government that they now have Lieutenant General John Frewen as the face of the vaccine rollout? Where are the Gov health officials being held accountable for their decisions. Now just a military man shielding them from their inadequacies.
Anyone else see the problem here? Just more concerning activity from an unaccountable Federal Government.
Anyone else see the problem here? Just more concerning activity from an unaccountable Federal Government.
Chances of clots or covid death are both super low in that age group.
The benefit is high as again it means vulnerable peope are more protected with higher general vaccination rates.
Of course if a safer vaccine is already available, use that.
