Mudguts Palmer did take it to court with the support of Morrison, who then backtracked when he realised he'd backed the wrong horse.
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Take a little walk down the corridor to Room 101. The answers you seek are inside, friend.
Nice little letter in the Age this morning:
Sums it up really.
Also the reason why we have seen no ad campaign to get the vaccination nor do we see targets, or details on when we open up - just more obfuscation to deflect from the gross incompetence of stuffing up getting vaccine supplies.
DS
Sums it up really.
Also the reason why we have seen no ad campaign to get the vaccination nor do we see targets, or details on when we open up - just more obfuscation to deflect from the gross incompetence of stuffing up getting vaccine supplies.
DS
I wonder what Morrison will have to say.
Germans told they should switch from AstraZeneca to Pfizer or Moderna for second dose
Germany's vaccine committee recommends anyone who received an AstraZeneca first dose have Pfizer or Moderna shots as the second for better protection against the coronavirus, including the Delta variant.www.abc.net.au
He will claim this is a terrible idea . . . because he don't have the Pfizer or Moderna to do it.
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clearly it won't matter given SloMo will open up whenever he damn well feels like it
Covid exit plan still a year away (paywalled)
Australia’s Covid exit plan — where the virus is eventually treated just like the flu — cannot be achieved until the middle of next year at the earliest, public health experts say.
And they say serious efforts will need to be made to convert those still on the fence about getting the jab, in order to get the desired 80 per cent of the population vaccinated.
The four-phase blueprint announced by Prime Minister Scott Morrison on Friday includes an initial cap on international arrivals and a trial of home quarantine.
Burnet Institute epidemiologist Mike Toole said he was “disappointed” with the halving of the international arrival cap, as it did not address the root cause of hotel quarantine transmission.
“If hotel quarantine is leaky, it’s leaky, at any level,” Professor Toole said.
“I think it’s an easy way out, and it’s shrugging your shoulders saying the system doesn’t work, instead of trying to fix the system.
“It still could be done if all the states addressed airborne transmission, improved ventilation and ensured their frontline staff wear the proper masks.”
Prof Toole said having 80 per cent of Australians vaccinated was the most likely target for avoiding future lockdowns, a milestone that would not be reached until at least April.
“We know from the last survey that 26 per cent of Australian adults definitely intend not to get vaccinated, or most probably won’t get vaccinated. We’ve got to really work on those ‘most probably’ people,” he said.
“We can’t mathematically reach 80 per cent of the population without vaccinating children.”
Chair of Biostatistics at the University of South Australia Adrian Esterman said while he welcomed the plan, the absence of details made it “a bit sketchy”.
“To transition to where we’re treating Covid-19 a bit like influenza, for that to happen we need a sufficiently large percentage of our population fully vaccinated,” Prof Esterman said.
Australia’s Covid exit plan — where the virus is eventually treated just like the flu — cannot be achieved until the middle of next year at the earliest, public health experts say.
And they say serious efforts will need to be made to convert those still on the fence about getting the jab, in order to get the desired 80 per cent of the population vaccinated.
The four-phase blueprint announced by Prime Minister Scott Morrison on Friday includes an initial cap on international arrivals and a trial of home quarantine.
Burnet Institute epidemiologist Mike Toole said he was “disappointed” with the halving of the international arrival cap, as it did not address the root cause of hotel quarantine transmission.
“If hotel quarantine is leaky, it’s leaky, at any level,” Professor Toole said.
“I think it’s an easy way out, and it’s shrugging your shoulders saying the system doesn’t work, instead of trying to fix the system.
“It still could be done if all the states addressed airborne transmission, improved ventilation and ensured their frontline staff wear the proper masks.”
Prof Toole said having 80 per cent of Australians vaccinated was the most likely target for avoiding future lockdowns, a milestone that would not be reached until at least April.
“We know from the last survey that 26 per cent of Australian adults definitely intend not to get vaccinated, or most probably won’t get vaccinated. We’ve got to really work on those ‘most probably’ people,” he said.
“We can’t mathematically reach 80 per cent of the population without vaccinating children.”
Chair of Biostatistics at the University of South Australia Adrian Esterman said while he welcomed the plan, the absence of details made it “a bit sketchy”.
“To transition to where we’re treating Covid-19 a bit like influenza, for that to happen we need a sufficiently large percentage of our population fully vaccinated,” Prof Esterman said.
All politicians say things they later regret but SCOMO’s “it’s not a race “ has to be high up there with his worst ( along with his “I don’t hold a hose”)
With their announcement yesterday that they are planning to have a plan it clearly is a race. A race to get to 80% fully vaccinated or whatever the number will be. It will be interesting to see what sort of community pressure gets put on the recalcitrants as we approach that number
With their announcement yesterday that they are planning to have a plan it clearly is a race. A race to get to 80% fully vaccinated or whatever the number will be. It will be interesting to see what sort of community pressure gets put on the recalcitrants as we approach that number
Getting 80% vaccinated won’t be done with any amount of advertising. Need to open up fully to those have been vaccinated once everyone who is willing to get vaccinated has the opportunity to be fully vaccinated.
Those who refuse to be vaccinated may find that Governments and businesses will refuse to give them the same opportunities and freedoms that vaccinated people have. For example airlines might make it no jab no flight.
Those who refuse to be vaccinated may find that Governments and businesses will refuse to give them the same opportunities and freedoms that vaccinated people have. For example airlines might make it no jab no flight.
I thought he already brushed that off as something he repeated from the CMO?
Heard a final response in a #ScoMo presser I am sure we will hear a lot more of in the coming months "All the matters is that the job gets done". That will be the new slogan for the party whenever their vaccine fuckups get raised. Pushing the message that this government, the #ScoMo Government, are getting the job done.
It's a shame our media will let them get away with it
That's already on the cards. In Singapore the talk of allowing leisure travel in and out of the country without the need for quarantine is based around fully vaccinated travellers. Fair enough too.
Yep.
The only major place in the media that really holds him to account is the ABC ( apart from the Guardian and a few other places) and he is boycotting it, unofficially of course.
7 day average now sits at 25. They're not exactly getting on top of it quickly. 5 people in ICU apparently.
The mixed messaging from Gladys is crazy. Don't go shopping, but you can if you want to. Businesses can decide whether they consider themselves to be "essential". And she just walks away without answering any difficult questions. She gets such a free ride in the media.
Its also quite ridiculous that Step 1 of Morrison's covid plan is to get the country vaccinated. Well no *smile* sherlock, that's what we've been complaining about for the last 6 months!
The mixed messaging from Gladys is crazy. Don't go shopping, but you can if you want to. Businesses can decide whether they consider themselves to be "essential". And she just walks away without answering any difficult questions. She gets such a free ride in the media.
Its also quite ridiculous that Step 1 of Morrison's covid plan is to get the country vaccinated. Well no *smile* sherlock, that's what we've been complaining about for the last 6 months!
it would be interesting to know what their modelling said the case numbers would be without a lockdown, both the days it started and in the preceding days, when they were still trying to avoid one.
But they live in Sydney mate. They HAVE to go the beach. Pandemic be damned. Nothing will stop Sydneysiders going to the beach. It is their God given right.
And Gladys will back them to the hilt. The lockdown is a joke and they don’t get it. They are very lucky they are not getting triple figure cases every day.
