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Coronavirus

A lady in Perth has tested positive.
She had the test done on Friday and then went to see the Western Australian Symphonic Orchestra on Saturday night. She got the results confirming that she had the virus on the Sunday.
WHY THE **** did she go to the concert where there was 1080 other people when she was waiting for the results of the test.
I'm flabbergasted.
 
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A lady in Perth has tested positive.
She had the test done on Friday and then went to see the Western Australian Symphonic Orchestra on Saturday night. She got the results confirming that she had the virus on the Sunday.
WHY THE **** did she go to concert where there was 1080 other people when she was waiting for the results of the test.
I'm flabbergasted.
That is quite flabberghasting. I would have listened to a CD and had chicken soup FWIW.
 
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A lady in Perth has tested positive.
She had the test done on Friday and then went to see the Western Australian Symphonic Orchestra on Saturday night. She got the results confirming that she had the virus on the Sunday.
WHY THE **** did she go to concert where there was 1080 other people when she was waiting for the results of the test.
I'm flabbergasted.

Probably didn't have any bog paper at home.
 
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The Dow Jones was down over 2000 points in early trading, the S&P 500 fell more than 7% triggering a 15 minute halt in trading.

Trump is saying that “Saudi Arabia and Russia are arguing over the price and flow of oil. That, and the Fake News, is the reason for the market drop!”

 
There are riots in 27 Italian prisons, with some breakouts.

There are school closures in 18 states in the US.

It is really starting to hit the fan.
 
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Case count excluding China/Diamond Princess (updated 11:30pm)

34,602 cases
946 deaths (2.73%)
962 severe (3%)
28,422 mild (82%)
4,272 recovered (12%)

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Expert warns of higher death rate than China as Sydney outbreak investigated
Kate Aubusson & Rachel Clun
The Age
March 10, 2020


Australia must prepare for a higher coronavirus death rate than China, a biosecurity expert says, as health authorities investigate a growing cluster of cases in north-west Sydney.

The cluster of at least 15 people has now spread to two schools, a hospital, a nursing home and Defence Force personnel, NSW Health confirmed on Monday.

By Monday afternoon, the total number of cases in NSW was 47, including two year 10 students from St Patrick's Marist College in Dundas, a 12-year-old girl from Willoughby Girls High School, and three parents.

But it's not the young who are most at risk. Leading biosecurity expert Raina MacIntyre said Australia's relatively older population meant this group could have a significantly higher mortality rate than in China.

In China, about 9 per cent of the population are over the age of 65, compared with Australia where it is about 16 per cent.

Over the past two weeks, international case mortality rate estimates for COVID-19 have oscillated between 1.4 per cent and 3.4 per cent. Rolling death rates are unstable, and the true mortality rate won't be known until after the contagion subsides.

So far three elderly Australians have died from COVID-19.

Professor MacIntyre urged the government to enforce travel restrictions and containment measures for as long as possible.

"Epidemics grow exponentially over days and weeks, not years … time is critical," she said. "Every week we are going to see this get bigger and bigger unless we can contain it. This is the time to do it."

As locally acquired infections rise, Professor MacIntyre said Australia may have already entered a period of sustained community transmission.

Schools, universities and sports and entertainment venues could be sites of "intense transmission", she said. The Royal Easter Show, which attracts an average of 850,000 visitors, posed an unnecessary and dangerous risk.

"Having an event like the Easter Show that attracts tens of thousands of people makes control so much harder. It just sets us back and is going to cause unnecessary infections and potentially death," she said.

Travel bans were not sustainable indefinitely and Australia would need to make a choice between economic and public health consequences, Professor MacIntyre said.

Once the travel bans are inevitably lifted, Australia must prepare for a surge of cases and the impact they will have on the healthcare system.

"There is still a sliver of hope [that the virus can be contained in Australia] but just a sliver fades every day," she said.

"An individual will have nine to ten close contacts each day," she explained. "If we have 50 cases that’s 500 people who need to be traced and monitored … when that number gets to 500 or 10,000, the task will be impossible."

She commended NSW Health for continuing their rapid identification and isolation of confirmed cases, contact tracing and isolation measures to prevent and slow the contagion.

The state's Chief Health Officer Dr Kerry Chant said containment and contact tracing was a proven strategy to prevent and slow outbreaks even amid sustained community transmissions.

Addressing the cluster of cases in north-west Sydney, Dr Chant said NSW Health was "doing the detective work" to trace the "links and threads" between the two students at St Patrick's Marist College, a 16-year-old Epping Boys High School student diagnosed last week, Ryde Hospital, BaptistCare's Dorothy Henderson Lodge in Macquarie Park, and Australian Defence Force personnel.

The fathers of the two teenagers at St Patrick's Marist College - a 14-year-old boy and a 15-year-old girl - also tested positive for the virus. Both men work for the Defence Force, Dr Chant said.

"Our main aim now is to make sure we’ve tracked down any chain of ongoing transmission and any that may have been missed, to slow any community spread of COVID-19," she said.

"We know the greatest risk of transmission is within a family setting. So we have to plot who got sick when and do detective work to map it out and look at the connections."

NSW accounts for more than half of the 92 coronavirus cases in Australia confirmed by Monday evening. Victoria accounted for 15 cases and Western Australia had six.
 
I really hope that Dockers player tests negative. Could throw the season into doubt.

I'd be very concerned if Jeremy Cameron had cotchinvideo-19

He would accidentally huck a chunky up the oppositions nose about 2 seconds after the contest
 
so theres an opinion piece today front page of Fairfax papers calling for a 2 week isolation of everyone in Australia right?

I dont get it.

theres hardly any people with it in Australia.

the whole nation self isolates for a spontaneous 2 weeks.

so a household of 10 (not uncommon with the price of a roof these days) isolates for 2 weeks and 1 member has corona.

then each day, another member of the household gets it, so on day 10, someone goes down.

dont they then just reappear into society, where everything is ground to a halt and gone like Cormac McCarthy's The Road, 4 days into the illness and off she goes again?

Isnt this a pretty dumb suggestion?

wouldn't a better suggestion be

'if you are old and sick and unwilling to take the low risk of dying of this virus, stay home for a month?'

and society largely runs as normal. old and sick people aren't usually in the workforce.

we could even stimulate our economy by having an army of young healthy people paid well deliver isolated vulnerable people food and medicine, sterile packed and eave it on the door step.
 
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My work is preparing everyone to work from home with a practice run.
 
This article is one of the most astute yet written on the issue. It asserts that government is content for you to become infected at this stage in order to obtain support for and compliance with future restrictions.

Why hasn’t Victoria gone into lockdown? (paywalled)
Grant McArthur
Herald Sun
March 10, 2020
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Why don’t health authorities just shut the state down now?

With fears the Grand Prix, start of the AFL season, concerts or any other mass gathering could cause COVID-19 to spread uncontrollably, it’s understandable Victorians are asking why the events are still allowed to go ahead.

Australia’s chief health officers have confirmed they are looking at trigger points for when they will implement “social distancing” measures.

Until the world develops a vaccine, the ability to shut down mass gatherings is the best weapon they have against coronavirus.

But they will only get one shot at it, so the timing must be right.

So far almost all of Australia’s COVID-19 cases have been imported from people flying into the country already infected.

Banning people gathering in public will have little if any effect at the moment.

Worse, health authorities know that banning people going about their lives will soon wear thin if it is not done for very good reason.

If that happens before COVID-19 begins to pass through the community, then their best hope of having public support to stop the virus’ rampant spreads will have been wasted.

In the coming weeks, or hopefully months, the number of coronavirus transmissions spreading from person-to-person will pass cases coming in from overseas.

That is when authorities plan to fire their best shot.

While they won’t say it so bluntly in public, the nation’s top health experts are resigned to the fact that many – possibly even most – of us will get coronavirus.

But the vast majority of cases will be minor, with some people’s symptoms so slight they may never even know they had it.

This leaves the experts with two choices:
1. Let COVID-19 pass through as quickly as possible and hope for the best;
2. Slow its progress so that the same number or fewer people get it, but it will be over a much longer and more controlled period.

Great effort is focusing on the second option.

By placing timely hurdles to slow the spread, authorities hope to insulate the most vulnerable people in nursing homes or with other health conditions for whom it is a matter of life and death.

This would also spread the load more evenly on hospitals as they brace for flu season.

And, if coronavirus can be kept at bay long enough, there may even be hope of vaccines or other treatments able to curtail its impact in the longer term.

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Won't be playing that game.
 
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Makes no sense. You can catch covid-19 a second time

There have been apparent cases reported, but they're not sure if the disease can be bi-phasal, i.e. go dormant for a period before resurfacing. There are documented cases of victims testing positive, then negative, then positive again.

Apparently there was a doctor on Ch 7 last night saying once you get it, you'll develop antibodies that will protect you for a period from getting it again. But elsewhere I've read that some people don't develop sufficient antibodies to be immune for long.

Just another unknown among many.

Certainly seems we're in for an extended battle until a safe and effective vaccine can be developed. A stern test of character for the nation.
 
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Daniel Andrews (with Dr Brett Sutton) just held a presser basically preparing Victorians to expect 'Social Distancing' measures when we meet the next phase of this virus.
According to senior Medical advice The Grand Prix & Footy will go ahead 'today' but there's no guarantees beyond that as it's a moving beast.
 
Daniel Andrews (with Dr Brett Sutton) just held a presser basically preparing Victorians to expect 'Social Distancing' measures when we meet the next phase of this virus.
According to senior Medical advice The Grand Prix & Footy will go ahead 'today' but there's no guarantees beyond that as it's a moving beast.

The cynic in me says let there be a crowd and good optics for the international event, then start the social distancing after that all over.