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Just heard on Ch 7 ...."weeks in quarantine even if they're not showing symptoms" ....bloody hell.

Must be the cuckoo flu spreading.
 
I just laugh at the panic sellers. Looks like a lot of work tomorrow...
Yep; These companies that have so much value wiped off them are fundamentally not much different to what they were 3 months ago.
It never ceases to amaze me how illogical the stock market is.
 
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Yep; These companies that have so much value wiped off them are fundamentally not much different to what they were 3 months ago.
It never ceases to amaze me how illogical the stock market is.

Market's been waiting for a reason to have a decent correction, this is it.
 
Excellent article here for you Lee - looking at the (extreme) measures China took to contain the epidemic once they stopped obfuscating. Also good stuff on mortality rates, testing and control procedures, how they dealt with other health issues.


Some highlights

Are the cases in China really going down?
I know there’s suspicion, but at every testing clinic we went to, people would say, “It’s not like it was three weeks ago.” It peaked at 46,000 people asking for tests a day; when we left, it was 13,000. Hospitals had empty beds.


How did the Chinese reorganize their medical response?
First, they moved 50 percent of all medical care online so people didn’t come in. Have you ever tried to reach your doctor on Friday night? Instead, you contacted one online. If you needed prescriptions like insulin or heart medications, they could prescribe and deliver it.

The swab was for a PCR test, right? How fast could they do that? Until recently, we were sending all of ours to Atlanta.
They got it down to four hours.

So people weren’t sent home?
No, they had to wait. You don’t want someone wandering around spreading virus.

Hospitals were also separated?
Yes. The best hospitals were designated just for Covid, severe and critical. All elective surgeries were postponed. Patients were moved. Other hospitals were designated just for routine care: women still have to give birth, people still suffer trauma and heart attacks.

Who paid for all of this?
The government made it clear: testing is free. And if it was Covid-19, when your insurance ended, the state picked up everything.

What about the nonmedical response?
It was nationwide. There was this tremendous sense of, “We’ve got to help Wuhan,” not “Wuhan got us into this.” Other provinces sent 40,000 medical workers, many of whom volunteered.

Compare and contrast with half-assed "we've got everything under control" type government responses in some other countries...
 
Compare and contrast with half-assed "we've got everything under control" type government responses in some other countries...

They are so far ahead of us it's like another planet. All the positive tests go into a central database; there's a phone app that tells you if a carrier has been in your vicinity; they use drones to track people not wearing masks in public and issue verbal warnings to go home. Also in the video below there's a bit on South Korea having access to your credit card details so that if you test positive and your credit card says you're out and about and not in quarantine, you're publicly named and shamed.

https://www.wsj.com/video/china-dep...25-72471A5ECD39.html?mod=trending_now_video_2

We're just going to try to muddle our way through it. I'm not optimistic.
 
Even more concerned about the US. There you've got the perfect storm of huge numbers of poor people being uninsured, highly casualised workforce so stay home from work = no pay, poor coordination between state and feds, and governments/health agencies actively discouraging testing. Let alone a President who only cares about what effect it has on the stock market.

No worries though, it's only going to be poor old uninsured people who will die.
 
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They are so far ahead of us it's like another planet. All the positive tests go into a central database; there's a phone app that tells you if a carrier has been in your vicinity; they use drones to track people not wearing masks in public and issue verbal warnings to go home. Also in the video below there's a bit on South Korea having access to your credit card details so that if you test positive and your credit card says you're out and about and not in quarantine, you're publicly named and shamed.

https://www.wsj.com/video/china-dep...25-72471A5ECD39.html?mod=trending_now_video_2

We're just going to try to muddle our way through it. I'm not optimistic.

Where I am they have contact tracing down to an art form. Not only cameras everywhere, but all creditcard, cashcards, debit facilities all available to the authorities who will know who, when and how. Each day when they release the new numbers, each case has a breakdown of the how they got it, or from where they arrived with it.

You lose you civil liberties, but society as a while is better protected.
 
based on a large sample(n=72,000), you have a 15% chance of dying IF INFECTED if you are over 80.

inverted, 85 of every 100 octogenarian infected, recover from Cotchinvideo-19.

it goes down sharply

under 60 and 987 people out of 1000 who get infected will recover

pretty linear trend off a significant sample

bubonic plague for the information age.
 
For the most part, countries in the southern hemisphere (summer) and tropics have got off lightly. Maybe that's why we're letting the Italian GP teams in?
 
Might be more than a day..

AFL season getting ready to go into melt down. All Frockers players to be quarantined if he's positive. Wet Coke n Carlscum players will be shitting themselves waiting to hear if he's got Coroner.
Bloody glorified flu n a massive bunch of knicker wetters will be in full panic mode some more.
 
Might be more than a day..


Sources have confirmed to The Age that the Dockers player - whose identity has not yet been revealed - has been tested after being in contact recently with someone from China.

This is getting hilarious. How more generalised does it get?
 
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Where I am they have contact tracing down to an art form. Not only cameras everywhere, but all creditcard, cashcards, debit facilities all available to the authorities who will know who, when and how. Each day when they release the new numbers, each case has a breakdown of the how they got it, or from where they arrived with it.

You lose you civil liberties, but society as a while is better protected.

Yeah, that's Singapore! Small island state, wealthy, low crime, docile population focussed on material wealth not politics. It's a nice place in many ways.

Singaporeans crack me up though - I was talking about poverty and housing in Indonesia and someone just said to me "why doesn't the Indonesian government just set up like HDB" (Singapore's public housing scheme)". I was like um yeah it's a slightly different scale in Indonesia with 260 million people on 3000 islands, corruption, and much less money.
 
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