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Ridley said:
Comparatively good numbers today but after 5 weeks of lockdown nowhere near as low as they should be. No chance the lockdown ends next Sunday; zero. Reports are that it will continue for weeks and that school won’t go back in term 4 :(
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I live in regional Victoria and I will be staggered if they don’t let kids go back to school term 4. Only one new case in regional Vic yesterday. I have been talking to many in my network and a few teachers. Many kids are struggling and need to be back for their mental well-being and so that they can learn at the expected standard.
 
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MB78 said:
I live in regional Victoria and I will be staggered if they don’t let kids go back to school term 4. Only one new case in regional Vic yesterday. I have been talking to many in my network and a few teachers. Many kids are struggling and need to be back for their mental well-being and so that they can learn at the expected standard.
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Yeah regional Vic should be okay to have some restrictions relaxed and get kids back to school. It’s Melbourne that’s *smile*.
 
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This is going to be a numbers game.

get x for y days in a row and restrictions get eased to xxxx etc

I also think we will get some small concessions re people living in their own and maybe family visits
 
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Here comes the road map. Can't see any going away on holidays this school break.
 
About as expected:

Current restrictions extended for two weeks

Melbourne curfew being pushed back an hour to 9pm

Exercise increased to two hours per day

Social bubbles available for singles

Public gatherings for two people

Playgrounds reopened
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Road map looks more like that which was leaked on Saturday rather than last week from what I can gather.

In any case it was quite predictable.

What we really need is to get the numbers down further and do better on contact tracing. That way we can hopefully control any small outbreaks before they become big outbreaks.

Numbers still plateauing, this week is important in terms of where we go, we seem to have it under 100 now, but that is still too many and we need to get the number of cases in the community down so there is less likelihood of spread.

This is what it looks like today:

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Another week (at least) of watching and waiting for the numbers each day.

DS
 
DavidSSS said:
What we really need is to get the numbers down further and do better on contact tracing. That way we can hopefully control any small outbreaks before they become big outbreaks.
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Have we still not got the contact tracing situation sorted out? We all know the hotel quarantine was an unmitigated disaster and the reason for the second wave. But we've had 2 months of this second wave now and if we haven't got contact tracing sorted then that is an abject failure on behalf of the authorities and is nowhere near good enough.

If it is not sorted then why have they not emulated what NSW has done? From all reports they have contact tracing down pat and are managing to limit new cases to less than 20 a day whilst still having the economy open with some limited restrictions. All we get in Victoria is endless lockdown with no reopening until 2 weeks of zero community transmission. That is a pipe dream.
 
bigwow said:
41 new cases, 9 dead last 24 hours.
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Promising numbers despite the unfortunate but inevitable deaths. Hopefully new cases remain under 50 for the next couple of weeks. It will help our under resourced and far from ideal contact tracing capabilities handle the task better. Not to mention getting small business opening and people back to work. This lockdown is really biting hard for too many people.
 
Ridley said:
Have we still not got the contact tracing situation sorted out? We all know the hotel quarantine was an unmitigated disaster and the reason for the second wave. But we've had 2 months of this second wave now and if we haven't got contact tracing sorted then that is an abject failure on behalf of the authorities and is nowhere near good enough.

If it is not sorted then why have they not emulated what NSW has done? From all reports they have contact tracing down pat and are managing to limit new cases to less than 20 a day whilst still having the economy open with some limited restrictions. All we get in Victoria is endless lockdown with no reopening until 2 weeks of zero community transmission. That is a pipe dream.
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Andrews addressed this in the press conference yesterday as some journo was going on about CT being poor, and Andrews snapped back about it. Apparantly (and forgive me if I don't get the numbers quite right), but he was saying that everyone (or 97-99% I think so practically everyone) who fell ill was interviewed within 24 hours of testing positive. There were still a number that refused to give an interview (ridiculous in my eyes), around 10% I think he stated refused to state anything to contract tracers. The issue of contract tracing doesn't seem to be the system, but the people who are being interviewed and the conspiracy theories around the disease that are spread online are most likely impacting that 10% that will not engage with contact tracers. I assume those same people also did not download the app which they could use as a backup.
 
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mrposhman said:
Andrews addressed this in the press conference yesterday as some journo was going on about CT being poor, and Andrews snapped back about it. Apparantly (and forgive me if I don't get the numbers quite right), but he was saying that everyone (or 97-99% I think so practically everyone) who fell ill was interviewed within 24 hours of testing positive. There were still a number that refused to give an interview (ridiculous in my eyes), around 10% I think he stated refused to state anything to contract tracers. The issue of contract tracing doesn't seem to be the system, but the people who are being interviewed and the conspiracy theories around the disease that are spread online are most likely impacting that 10% that will not engage with contact tracers. I assume those same people also did not download the app which they could use as a backup.
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Thanks for the information Posh. It begs the question why is this is an issue in Victoria and not in NSW for example? Are Victorians less compliant than people from NSW? Or did we just get "unlucky" again; like we were "unlucky" with hotel quarantine.

I find it hard to believe that we have more uncompliant people in Victoria than other states by comparison. What I do believe is the inability or reluctance of our authorities to enforce the regulations surrounding this pandemic. They are more than happy to confront people in their homes over a stupid Facebook post but when people won't divulge contact history after testing positive there are no consequences. It was the same when we had up to 30% of returned travellers refusing tests. Someone fills in some essential worker paperwork incorrectly and they can be up for a $16K fine. Yet someone who tests positive and knowingly doesn't self isolate can only be fined $5K?? Which is the worst offence?

Talk about low hanging fruit. The authorities need to get fair dinkum with people who don't self isolate and/or don't divulge contact data. No excuses. Otherwise we'll be locked down well past Christmas.
 
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