I don't really care if information is "positive and upbeat" or "negative and pessimistic".
I'd just like it to be accurate and not misleading, particularly when coming from a medico.
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I don't really care if information is "positive and upbeat" or "negative and pessimistic".
I'd just like it to be accurate and not misleading, particularly when coming from a medico.
The quantum of infection is really starting to impact in the USA. It’s like nothing the world has ever seen before. In NYC for example, they have so many people sick with Omicron that copious amounts of businesses and services can’t operate. NYC has even had to close several subway lines. And as for health services, well they’re back at the brink again in many US states. Severe illness in children now a huge concern as well.
Just as in a few Euro countries, looks like restrictions will be re implemented in many US states to try and at least slow the spread down a bit and not have everything collapse underneath itself in a rush.
It’s a bit of a wait and see, but for me, right now, the whole “ learning to live” with Covid statement and relying on a milder strain, vax efficacy (which is under question anyway…NYC had an 80% full vax rate if I remember correctly) is a bit too flippant and basic at the moment given the insane contagion levels of Omicron.
Just as in a few Euro countries, looks like restrictions will be re implemented in many US states to try and at least slow the spread down a bit and not have everything collapse underneath itself in a rush.
It’s a bit of a wait and see, but for me, right now, the whole “ learning to live” with Covid statement and relying on a milder strain, vax efficacy (which is under question anyway…NYC had an 80% full vax rate if I remember correctly) is a bit too flippant and basic at the moment given the insane contagion levels of Omicron.
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The drop in cases today is no doubt because testing numbers have dropped. Waste of space reporting them now which is just what they want. Real numbers are significantly higher. Trumpian.
Yeh the wahl is the bald man’s best friend. The lube smells suspiciously like bacon though? A little disturbing/a little tantalising.
Bacon ? Well I’m not bald so no need for a shaver, but gee if my head smelt like bacon I’d be prepared to be !
They aren’t h20- I’ve spent 6 weeks in bed since I had my booster! I’m pissed off about that but glad that I had it.
Jeez hope you better.
I had a pretty rough 3 days on the Pfizer boost after no dramas on the AZ. Progressed from panadol to codeine to morphine margaritas for the head and body aches. I'd reccomend skipping the gateway stuff and going straight to the finishline
Case numbers will be irrelevant as many wont report their RAT test (or not do the test at all).
What the let-it-rippers cling too is that Omicron is way less severe than other strains so don't worry. However, due to it's high transmission, hospitalisations and ICUs are a concern. Vic is steady at the moment but NSW ICU nos. have risen from 24 on 17 December to 83 today.
What the let-it-rippers cling too is that Omicron is way less severe than other strains so don't worry. However, due to it's high transmission, hospitalisations and ICUs are a concern. Vic is steady at the moment but NSW ICU nos. have risen from 24 on 17 December to 83 today.
One update referred to the number of cases "detected" in NSW, not sure if it was intentional language or a freudian slip, but "detected" is probably now the accurate term for case numbers.
Hospitalisation is up 50% in Victoria in the last week but still below the rate we had during Delta’s last outbreak. ICU still down and if that is the case this time next week it is very good news
Just looking at some stats. Would you suggest a 1 week or 2 week lag between cases arising and hospitalisation?
Exactly what is happening in NSW. My niece and nephew have covid (both in their 20”s) and they say young people no longer check in and many of their friends suspect they have covid but aren’t getting tested.
Omicron is way less severe as shown in every country it’s the dominant strain in. It’s not in dispute. Protect the vulnerable ( and they have some responsibility to protect themselves too) and get on with life.
The issue is the feds have failed to plan any aspect of the pandemic very well.
What that probably means is that some of the unvaccinated are going into places they probably shouldn't be
Now all the media talk is about the hospital system being overwhelmed, collapsing & people potentially leaving the industry.
Case numbers continue to be misreported.
Surely everyone is extremely concerned by this.
Case numbers continue to be misreported.
Surely everyone is extremely concerned by this.
A reminder that nearly all of those in Victoria on ICU are entirely unvaccinated. That’s putting the real pressure on.
This is the issue. And the media need to spell this out more.
No more lockdowns for those that have done the right thing.
still don't know much about long COVID.
reports / studies suggesting more than 50% of COVID survivors having at least one symptom six months on. symptoms include mental illness due to brain damage.
you do not want to get this virus.
but it's all good cos omicron is less severe in the initial phase /s
reports / studies suggesting more than 50% of COVID survivors having at least one symptom six months on. symptoms include mental illness due to brain damage.
you do not want to get this virus.
but it's all good cos omicron is less severe in the initial phase /s
You are correct that case numbers are being misreported but the more virus out there will still lead to more hospitalisations (at a lower rate) which could impact the ability for the system to hold up.
Here is a chart showing severity of cases. The orange line is the % of those in ICU that are on ventilators and that has been dropping for some time. The blue line is the proportion of hospitalisations that are in ICU, again a declining trend. Much of this trend down will be as a result of vaccinations. Only now over the next few weeks will we really see the impact of Omicron.
I have also looked at tracking the % of hospitalisations as a % of active cases (on a lag factor, using both a 1 week lag and a 2 week lag, ie. the current spike in active cases is unlikely yet to be impacting hospitalisation numbers) which shows we are tracking at between 2.5-3.5% of people entering hospital depending on if you use a 1 week or 2 week lag. Again this is way down from our peak back in September where using a 1 week lag we were around 11% and using a 2 week lag around 20%. However, the higher the active cases, the more strain on the hospital system unless we can reduce the proportion of those entering hospital.
For example, we have 38,118 active cases today, using a 1 week lag at 2.5% - 3% in hospital then by next Monday we could expect to have between 953 and 1144 people in hospital. Our previous max was 851 on 18th October. The more the active cases increase and the % doesn't decrease the more people that will continue to enter hospital. The good thing is, with the lower ICU rates and ventilator rates, then it removes strain from those areas. With our current %'s of ICU and ventilators this would assume we would have between 105-126 in ICU by next Monday (well down on our max of 163) and 44-53 on ventilators (again well down on our max of 106).
I'm sure sin will be able to verify this, but when talking about hospital capacity, the biggest issue is around ward capacity and nursing capacity.
