And those who live with family? And those that are tended to by under 65s with families and lives?
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And those who live with family? And those that are tended to by under 65s with families and lives?
Obviously there would be issues, and they can remain with family but are at risk of catching it from them.
It seems to me that over 70's are those most at risk and therefore we either shield society from being infected, or we allow those at lower risk to be infected (possibly just a matter of time anyway) and then protect those most at risk from the infected (who will develop herd immunity).
There are no easy answers to any of this.
I thought it was mandatory. Scomo said in his press conference that it would be an offence if somebody didnt comply with self isolation.
The Govt is between a massive rock and the hardest of hard places.
Balancing the spectre of our economy being disintegrated in the blink of an eye while trying to manage the virus outbreak is a lose lose situation for any Govt and its people.
There are so many flow on effects to our livelihood as a result of looming decisions, the first being shutting schools.... that's a massive impact on working families as all of a sudden tens of thousands of children require someone at home to look after them, which affects income and small business and big business, which affects mortgages, which puts families on the brink.
Not closing schools and other isolating measures puts a massive strain on doctors, nurses and medical resources the likes of which I hope to never see.
Damned if they do and damned if they don't.
Balancing the spectre of our economy being disintegrated in the blink of an eye while trying to manage the virus outbreak is a lose lose situation for any Govt and its people.
There are so many flow on effects to our livelihood as a result of looming decisions, the first being shutting schools.... that's a massive impact on working families as all of a sudden tens of thousands of children require someone at home to look after them, which affects income and small business and big business, which affects mortgages, which puts families on the brink.
Not closing schools and other isolating measures puts a massive strain on doctors, nurses and medical resources the likes of which I hope to never see.
Damned if they do and damned if they don't.
We had our guns taken from us because we couldn't be trusted. But if we get diagnosed with the coronavirus we can be trusted to self-isolate.
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It already exists, Ants.
Each state and territory have public health laws that enable the health/emergency services/whoever minister to request the police to enforce them.
Today in Sydney they had to force a dumbfuck exposed to the virus back into isolation because he apparently thinks he is more important than the community.
To give some perspective, Singapore has issued over 7k SHN since this started. These 7k people get video called 3 times a day/night and they have to show that they are still in their place of quarantine.
Some have gone outside but they were caught out fairly quickly.
I doubt many countries could replicate what SG has done.
Some have gone outside but they were caught out fairly quickly.
I doubt many countries could replicate what SG has done.
Definitely trying and testing times coming up.
I went to supermarket today to get some essentials for the week coming up and I thought I walked into a closing down sale. Aisle after aisle was empty.
I went to supermarket today to get some essentials for the week coming up and I thought I walked into a closing down sale. Aisle after aisle was empty.
The panic seemed to go up several notches today. It was probably triggered by comments from Brendon Murphy the Chief Medical Officer for the Australian Government.
When journalist David Speers asked him "And where is this heading in terms of, I see the Victorian Chief Health Officer saying you should go out and buy enough food to last two weeks. Is that your advice as well?
He answered with "I think that for most people we don’t want to encourage major panic buying at the moment. We’ve seen that with the supermarket chains. But I think it’s probably sensible to have a few days of supplies."
I feel for the guy, he was in a no win situation no matter what he said.
Empty shelves? That can't be right. There is demand, surely the free market will provide. Firms will enter the market and provide so that demand and supply are again in equilibrium and pareto optimality will be restored. That's the promise, you mean the free market doesn't deliver, neo-liberal economics is bollocks?
Who would have thought?
DS
Who would have thought?
DS
There are no atheists in foxholes.
Everyone's a socialist when they need dunny paper.
Yesterday all I could get was some cake icing, sultanas, a potato and shoe polish.
This meant to last me the week.
what I'd give to eat a sultana-iced potato cake in shiny boots right now.
If the report is true that Trump tried to buy exclusivity from a German vaccine company,
he should be thrown in the clink. or be cowering in a drainpipe under a road somewhere with a Luger. shouldn't he?
TIGERS BACK AFL'S RADICAL CORONAVIRUS FIXTURE PLAN (paywalled)
Richmond says it supports a packed early-season schedule with multiple games a week as the club places strict demands on its players to limit the spread of coronavirus.
The Tigers will take on Carlton in front of an empty MCG on Thursday, having trained behind closed doors at Punt Road yesterday before their final training hit-out on Tuesday.
Richmond would be perfectly placed to maximise a schedule that saw teams playing five games in three weeks from Round 2 or 3 given no injuries and exceptional depth.
Before then the Tigers will tackle injury-hit Carlton, with defender Sydney Stack and ruckman Callum Coleman-Jones in strong positions to replace premiership players Brandon Ellis (Gold Coast) and Toby Nankervis.
Nankervis still needs match fitness after a VFL practice match against Coburg was cancelled over the weekend, but otherwise the Tigers are perfectly poised for their premiership defence.
The AFL is set to institute a register of personnel who can gain entry into the MCG but clubs are not limited to a certain number of officials who can be at the ground.
Balme said yesterday the Tigers had told their players to minimise contact with others and basically train and stay at home apart from shopping for essential services.
“We are trying to be as normal as we can be in terms of living but we have suggested to players they are very conservative with their social lives and hopefully they understand that means they aren’t going to the pub. They have to live but they aren’t just normal members of the community in relation to this.“
Football manager Neil Balme said clubs were open to the possibility of playing mid-week games to fast-track the AFL schedule before the inevitable mid-season shutdown for several months.
“We will listen to all of that. As long as it’s fair for everyone. We understand what they are trying to do, which is get as many games as we can in so I think that’s quite a reasonable response. Who knows where that will get to but we will listen to that and support all that.”
“I think they are going to talk to the coaches and float ideas in terms of the games they might play, shorter games, more interchange. Clearly they want to talk to everyone in footy to do it the right way.”
The game will be played with a skeleton staff of MCG personnel of as few as 200 people, with club locker rooms shut down to all but essential club officials.
It will mean venues like the MCG are much cheaper to operate as the stands, corporate areas and bars are empty.
The league plans to hold media press conferences after games with a senior coach and several senior players conducted in separate rooms to the changerooms.
Richmond chief executive Brendon Gale said on Saturday the gate for the Richmond-Carlton game would normally be as high as $1.4 million.
The club has also suspended training and meetings for its VFL side as two Tigers staffers were tested for coronavirus after feeling poorly.
The Tigers are one of many clubs across the competition now testing staff and players when they show symptoms of cold and flu but with no positive tests yet.
The VFL season is coming under increasing doubt given clubs will need to play multiple games across a week from early in the season – if footy isn’t shut down by that stage.
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So there's a national shortage of test kits and we're getting VFL staff tested with the sniffles?
It's doomed, Gil. Accept it and call it off.
Richmond says it supports a packed early-season schedule with multiple games a week as the club places strict demands on its players to limit the spread of coronavirus.
The Tigers will take on Carlton in front of an empty MCG on Thursday, having trained behind closed doors at Punt Road yesterday before their final training hit-out on Tuesday.
Richmond would be perfectly placed to maximise a schedule that saw teams playing five games in three weeks from Round 2 or 3 given no injuries and exceptional depth.
Before then the Tigers will tackle injury-hit Carlton, with defender Sydney Stack and ruckman Callum Coleman-Jones in strong positions to replace premiership players Brandon Ellis (Gold Coast) and Toby Nankervis.
Nankervis still needs match fitness after a VFL practice match against Coburg was cancelled over the weekend, but otherwise the Tigers are perfectly poised for their premiership defence.
The AFL is set to institute a register of personnel who can gain entry into the MCG but clubs are not limited to a certain number of officials who can be at the ground.
Balme said yesterday the Tigers had told their players to minimise contact with others and basically train and stay at home apart from shopping for essential services.
“We are trying to be as normal as we can be in terms of living but we have suggested to players they are very conservative with their social lives and hopefully they understand that means they aren’t going to the pub. They have to live but they aren’t just normal members of the community in relation to this.“
Football manager Neil Balme said clubs were open to the possibility of playing mid-week games to fast-track the AFL schedule before the inevitable mid-season shutdown for several months.
“We will listen to all of that. As long as it’s fair for everyone. We understand what they are trying to do, which is get as many games as we can in so I think that’s quite a reasonable response. Who knows where that will get to but we will listen to that and support all that.”
“I think they are going to talk to the coaches and float ideas in terms of the games they might play, shorter games, more interchange. Clearly they want to talk to everyone in footy to do it the right way.”
The game will be played with a skeleton staff of MCG personnel of as few as 200 people, with club locker rooms shut down to all but essential club officials.
It will mean venues like the MCG are much cheaper to operate as the stands, corporate areas and bars are empty.
The league plans to hold media press conferences after games with a senior coach and several senior players conducted in separate rooms to the changerooms.
Richmond chief executive Brendon Gale said on Saturday the gate for the Richmond-Carlton game would normally be as high as $1.4 million.
The club has also suspended training and meetings for its VFL side as two Tigers staffers were tested for coronavirus after feeling poorly.
The Tigers are one of many clubs across the competition now testing staff and players when they show symptoms of cold and flu but with no positive tests yet.
The VFL season is coming under increasing doubt given clubs will need to play multiple games across a week from early in the season – if footy isn’t shut down by that stage.
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So there's a national shortage of test kits and we're getting VFL staff tested with the sniffles?
It's doomed, Gil. Accept it and call it off.
