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Coronavirus grand final.
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No real surprise that it would be Collingwood leading the communicable disease infection in the AFL
For anyone not exhausted of coronavirus OR are doubting the measures being enforced, this article contains excellent visual simulations that illustrate why we need to act.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/graphics/2020/world/corona-simulator/
1. We have no immunity to this virus
2. We don't know about re-exposure/reinfection potential
3. The people that are positive NOW, have been positive (contagious) for more than a week
4. What we don't do now, will be reflected in the numbers in 2 weeks
And for some lighthearted relief...that conveys the message well too (language warning!)
https://www.washingtonpost.com/graphics/2020/world/corona-simulator/
1. We have no immunity to this virus
2. We don't know about re-exposure/reinfection potential
3. The people that are positive NOW, have been positive (contagious) for more than a week
4. What we don't do now, will be reflected in the numbers in 2 weeks
And for some lighthearted relief...that conveys the message well too (language warning!)
You are somewhta right here Sir. The media, particularly TV, loves the bad news and heaps it on. They don't report that more people in Australia die from heart attack every day , way in excess of the deaths from this horrible virus. The good news is, that the global warming/climate change has to have taken a back seat thank goodness. Then again, I guess there are some who will blame this outbreak on climate change, but they will struggle to get air time.I am blown away that this even warrant's discussion!!!
Talk about a media driven DISGRACE!!!!
It's a BAD flu people!!!!!!
...... people will die (generally elderly) ...... just like every bad strain/batch
..... how many people have been lost on Australian roads during the same period that News.com and NineMSN have carried on like twats???
Far out this is embarrassing!!!!
Will this button link me to a top quality funeral company? Don't want a cheap n nasty $2.00 special if the Coroner gets me. I want to go out with full pomp n ceremony.Skeptics should familiarise themselves with this button.
Did not infer it was a media beatup antman. Said the media play the doom and gloom card, and never seem to print or explain any comparison facts and figures.
In no way am I trying to imply this Coronavirus plague is anything but catastrophic throughout the world, and the effect it is having on the financial markets as well
No point arguing about it. Good luck, hope you and yours stay safe.
Skeptics should familiarise themselves with this button.
I don’t think the human brain naturally deals with this concept for whatever reason (see credit cards). Doubling every three days is insane.
It’s pretty much the chessboard thing except you get capped by the number of people that exist.
Wheat and chessboard problem - Wikipedia
To be fair Grayone the media dont need to explain that more people die from flu or cars or sharks. This isnt a choice between sharks or a virus.
What it can explain is the potential for unnecessary deaths. 50,000 to 150,000. Thats doom and gloom for many many families.
Fair enought Tigerdell. Reckon I am just reacting to all the media hype, being one of those at high risk. Thankfully, perfectly healthy right now.
Regrettably, there is a fair amount of panic around, and that to some extent I can understand. What I don't like is the panic buying, especially of all things toilet paper.
Tissues I can understand as it seems the virus is like a flu, so tissues would be helpful.
As for the footy, I just don't know, like all us supporters, what is going to happen.
The saying is, such is life.
As an addendum to my last post. How about this.
Just had a phone call from our daughter who works for Coles. She saw this happen.
A woman grabbed two packs of toilet paper and was told politely by a Coles employee that only one pack per customer.
The woman screamed at her and said she was taking two. When retold the limit was one this woman assaulted the employee who fell to the floor hitting her head on the shelving and was bleeding. The ambulance and police were called and the woman arrested. The employee was taken to hospital.
That's the sort of behaviour I was referring to as panic. If I remember correctly some other woman was assaulted by two other women some where in a supermarket over toilet rolls, just recently.
Just had a phone call from our daughter who works for Coles. She saw this happen.
A woman grabbed two packs of toilet paper and was told politely by a Coles employee that only one pack per customer.
The woman screamed at her and said she was taking two. When retold the limit was one this woman assaulted the employee who fell to the floor hitting her head on the shelving and was bleeding. The ambulance and police were called and the woman arrested. The employee was taken to hospital.
That's the sort of behaviour I was referring to as panic. If I remember correctly some other woman was assaulted by two other women some where in a supermarket over toilet rolls, just recently.
That's a horrible story Gray*1. Hope the assaulted woman is OK and your daughter too for having to witness that.
Irrational behaviour can lead to bad things happening.
Look after yourselves everyone, and your families, and your neighbors and your community.
Especially check on the older people in your area and make sure they have what they need. If they a have isolated themselves they will need some sort of social contact, so give them a call if you can each day to check they are doing all right.
Irrational behaviour can lead to bad things happening.
Look after yourselves everyone, and your families, and your neighbors and your community.
Especially check on the older people in your area and make sure they have what they need. If they a have isolated themselves they will need some sort of social contact, so give them a call if you can each day to check they are doing all right.
Geez there really are some *smile* people in the world. If everyone just bought what they need we'd be fine. But there are so many selfish arseholes making the whole situation a lot worse than it needs to be.
That poor Coles employee was just doing her job yet this *smile* sees fit to assault her. Hopefully she will cop the full force of the law and not the usual wet lettuce leaf. Oh, and I hope they consficated her precious bog roll and gave it to 2 elderly people that are struggling to get essentials.
That's disgusting, I hope the Coles person is ok. I also hope that the perpetrator is made an example of.
I went into Coles this morning & found that everyone there was polite & helpful towards others. This despite the fact that a lot of shelves were bare due to a delivery truck not arriving over night.
I believe that this was the case for a few stores last night.
Surely there must be some good news stories out there. I for one believe that most people are decent & respectful, but there's a small percentage that make a lot of noise & get more publicity than they really should.
Interesting article, opion piece here on the AFL and Corna Virus
www.news.com.au
AFL coronavirus stance shows league should shut up on social issues | Opinion
AFL boss Gillon McLachlan says Australia looks to his competition for community leadership. Where’s that leadership now?
In the middle of last footy season, Hawthorn president Jeff Kennett took issue with the AFL embedding security staff at games wearing “behavioural awareness” bibs to police rowdy fans.
He saw it as another step towards taking the game out of the hands of those who had been living and breathing it all their lives and gave the league a whack.
“The AFL has tried to be the social umpire on every issue and that is wrong,” Kennett told The Australian. “That is not why the AFL was set up. They were set up to administer the code of football.”
AFL CEO Gillon McLachlan’s view couldn’t have been more contrasting. “People do look to us for community leadership … and I think our organisation is prevalent in every community and is a community leader,” McLachlan said.
“If you go to a football club, in most towns (it) is a core community institution. And so people look to the AFL, as their governing body, broadly for their position on social issues.
“I think we have a responsibility to do it and, to be honest, the public expect it of us.”
But where is that leadership now when many Australians are looking for the AFL to set the tone when it comes to how we approach the coronavirus outbreak?
When health experts are pleading with our leaders to take this more seriously, why is McLachlan suddenly looking to hide behind any piece of advice that allows his season to start on schedule?
Why, when almost every other major sporting competition in the world has shut down, does he think this is the time to trail the pack?
Because this time money is at stake.
It’s become clear the AFL wants to be a leader on social issues, but only when it’s popular and easy.
It costs the league nothing to condemn racists and hold pride games and promote equality.
But now they’re staring at a billion dollars in lost revenue, it’s time to heed Kennett’s advice and go back to administering the code of football.
And that's fine.
Every single person and business in Australia will likely be challenged by this unprecedented pandemic and it’s only responsible as a leader to be doing everything to limit the damage to the people in your charge.
If that means finding ways to play as many games as possible before a higher authority shuts you down, then perhaps that’s a judgment call McLachlan has to make.
Perhaps sending a message to Australia that they should prioritise protecting their pockets over a no-risk approach to the coronavirus is worth doing if it means the AFL can limit job losses in its industry.
Real people work for the AFL. Their hardships are real. But that’s not the argument.
The issue is McLachlan putting business first after claiming to run an organisation that’s a community leader.
He’s doing as good a job as anyone inside the AFL could ask right now but that’s his only priority.
Any impact to the rest of Australia by his competition’s refusal to send a message by shutting its doors is someone else’s responsibility.
So shelve the next lecture.
We should never listen to the AFL again
In the middle of last footy season, Hawthorn president Jeff Kennett took issue with the AFL embedding security staff at games wearing “behavioural awareness” bibs to police rowdy fans.
www.news.com.au
AFL coronavirus stance shows league should shut up on social issues | Opinion
AFL boss Gillon McLachlan says Australia looks to his competition for community leadership. Where’s that leadership now?
In the middle of last footy season, Hawthorn president Jeff Kennett took issue with the AFL embedding security staff at games wearing “behavioural awareness” bibs to police rowdy fans.
He saw it as another step towards taking the game out of the hands of those who had been living and breathing it all their lives and gave the league a whack.
“The AFL has tried to be the social umpire on every issue and that is wrong,” Kennett told The Australian. “That is not why the AFL was set up. They were set up to administer the code of football.”
AFL CEO Gillon McLachlan’s view couldn’t have been more contrasting. “People do look to us for community leadership … and I think our organisation is prevalent in every community and is a community leader,” McLachlan said.
“If you go to a football club, in most towns (it) is a core community institution. And so people look to the AFL, as their governing body, broadly for their position on social issues.
“I think we have a responsibility to do it and, to be honest, the public expect it of us.”
But where is that leadership now when many Australians are looking for the AFL to set the tone when it comes to how we approach the coronavirus outbreak?
When health experts are pleading with our leaders to take this more seriously, why is McLachlan suddenly looking to hide behind any piece of advice that allows his season to start on schedule?
Why, when almost every other major sporting competition in the world has shut down, does he think this is the time to trail the pack?
Because this time money is at stake.
It’s become clear the AFL wants to be a leader on social issues, but only when it’s popular and easy.
It costs the league nothing to condemn racists and hold pride games and promote equality.
But now they’re staring at a billion dollars in lost revenue, it’s time to heed Kennett’s advice and go back to administering the code of football.
And that's fine.
Every single person and business in Australia will likely be challenged by this unprecedented pandemic and it’s only responsible as a leader to be doing everything to limit the damage to the people in your charge.
If that means finding ways to play as many games as possible before a higher authority shuts you down, then perhaps that’s a judgment call McLachlan has to make.
Perhaps sending a message to Australia that they should prioritise protecting their pockets over a no-risk approach to the coronavirus is worth doing if it means the AFL can limit job losses in its industry.
Real people work for the AFL. Their hardships are real. But that’s not the argument.
The issue is McLachlan putting business first after claiming to run an organisation that’s a community leader.
He’s doing as good a job as anyone inside the AFL could ask right now but that’s his only priority.
Any impact to the rest of Australia by his competition’s refusal to send a message by shutting its doors is someone else’s responsibility.
So shelve the next lecture.
