Streak said:IMO, Victoria should adopt the "State of Conspiracy" tag.
Seriously, if it isn't the Australian cricket team being made up of only NSWelshmen, or the NRL trying to screw over the Storm because they are from Melbourne, etc. etc.
tigertim said:http://theshovel.com.au/2012/05/27/al-qaeda-claims-responsibility-for-myki/
A new "conspiracy" for the truthers. :rofl
KnightersRevenge said:If they haven't made a doco with Leonard Nimmoy as narrator then it isn't a real conspiracy.
Phantom said:Yes, got one for you.
It's been brewing for some time, with the Gillard government actively giving the Unions "carte blanche" to do anything necessary to gain power industrially.
Yesterday's wall collapse in the Melbourne CBD was a Union sabotage of an existing old wall, in a joint venture with organized crime to send the Grollos broke.
There is no secret about the Building Union's war with the Grollos.
Yesterday, we read that the Building Union was now stopping concrete trucks from delivering to building sites.
Today, we read that a wind blows down a 100 year wall. It wasn't that windy yesterday!
After reading about the corruption of the Victoria Police in the Overland investigation, and its links to organised crime, I have no doubt that the Victoria Police will find no evidence of sabotage. They won't even be looking for it.
As for Union attempts to destroy the manufacturing industry in Victoria, I have no doubt that the Manufacturing Unions are succeeding in destroying Victorian manufacturing, losing many thousands of Victorians their jobs, as multi-national manufacturers switch their operations to S.E.Asian countries.
But, Union officials can slap each other on the back saying, "We're growing in power!"
That's my conspiracy theory.
Phantom said:Yes, got one for you.
It's been brewing for some time, with the Gillard government actively giving the Unions "carte blanche" to do anything necessary to gain power industrially.
Yesterday's wall collapse in the Melbourne CBD was a Union sabotage of an existing old wall, in a joint venture with organized crime to send the Grollos broke.
There is no secret about the Building Union's war with the Grollos.
Yesterday, we read that the Building Union was now stopping concrete trucks from delivering to building sites.
Today, we read that a wind blows down a 100 year wall. It wasn't that windy yesterday!
After reading about the corruption of the Victoria Police in the Overland investigation, and its links to organised crime, I have no doubt that the Victoria Police will find no evidence of sabotage. They won't even be looking for it.
As for Union attempts to destroy the manufacturing industry in Victoria, I have no doubt that the Manufacturing Unions are succeeding in destroying Victorian manufacturing, losing many thousands of Victorians their jobs, as multi-national manufacturers switch their operations to S.E.Asian countries.
But, Union officials can slap each other on the back saying, "We're growing in power!"
That's my conspiracy theory.
Brother of, yep. Definite conspiracy to make the union look sympathetic and caring.Legends of 1980 said:Not wanting to buy into your theory Phanto, but something on the news did catch my eye about this. On tv, and in the paper, one of the first witnesses there was named Martin Setka. I wondered if he was any relation to John Setka, the union boss in battle with Grocon? Maybe just coincidence, but................................
tigertim said:Brother of, yep. Definite conspiracy to make the union look sympathetic and caring.
TigerForce said:Wasn't it just that strong squall in the wind change yesterday that caused it?
Classic case of public liability. Grocon's going to have to fork out money for 2 (and maybe 3) lives lost. I'm still waiting for the City Loop to do something similar.
Not sure KR. They say it was owned by Grocon who were planning to build apartments.KnightersRevenge said:If it is a "listed" wall does the City Council have any liability?
Phantom said:........
It's been brewing for some time, with the Gillard government actively giving the Unions "carte blanche" to do anything necessary to gain power industrially.
Yesterday's wall collapse in the Melbourne CBD was a Union sabotage of an existing old wall, in a joint venture with organized crime to send the Grollos broke.
..........
TigerForce said:Not sure KR. They say it was owned by Grocon who were planning to build apartments.
It was heritage-listed because of the CUB but I'd assume it's the owner's responsibility when it comes to maintenance.
KnightersRevenge said:I'm sure just wondering where the line is? If it is heritage listed surely it has to pass some greater test does that put the testing agency under any pressure be it the historical society the city council or whoever?
TigerForce said:Not sure KR. They say it was owned by Grocon who were planning to build apartments.
It was heritage-listed because of the CUB but I'd assume it's the owner's responsibility when it comes to maintenance.
Phantom said:I spoke with someone "in the know" within the building industry over the weekend.
Before this "cold war" between the Grollos and the Building Union, Grocon had an exemplary record in OHS.
Since this war began, a number of "accidents" have suddenly occurred on Grocon sites. It was only a fortnight or so ago that a workman fell from a lift to his death, with others before, now this!
Old rule of thumb,
One accident is unfortunate.
Two accidents are a worry.
Three accidents are suspicious.