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Conspiracies....get your conspiracies here!

1eyedtiger said:
Those who accept the official story without question are equally as foolish as those who subscribe to conspiracy theories without question. For gods sake people, use your brain to weigh up the facts in each case and come up with your own conclusion rather than accept someone else's version of events. Unfortunately,the facts are often hidden by those in positions of power and have a lot to lose.

We'll never learn the real truth about Princess Di, will we?

What a load of bull of a society we live in. Can't believe anything anyone says anymore.

i dont believe you.
 
1eyedtiger said:
Those who accept the official story without question are equally as foolish as those who subscribe to conspiracy theories without question. For gods sake people, use your brain to weigh up the facts in each case and come up with your own conclusion rather than accept someone else's version of events. Unfortunately,the facts are often hidden by those in positions of power and have a lot to lose.
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How then do we weigh up the facts when they are hidden?
 
Legends of 1980 said:
There is no moon..... :shhh

;D Truman Show?

The vision's always looked a bit dodgy to me but like 911 the longer it goes on without anyone involved blowing the whistle on it, the more unlikely it seems that it was faked.
These days I'm a lot more inclined to believe that they did actually land on it but I've always wondered why they've not been back for 40 years (no one else aside from the American's either) given the improvement's in modern communication and technology. ??? Going back again apparently in a few years time so hopefully I'm around to see it.
 
Sorry 1eyed, you've walked into a post 911 bunfight and are in the cross hairs. ;)
 
rosy23 said:
I wouldn't have a clue but to claim that as fact, based on your earlier post about accepting the official version, comes across as a confession of foolishness...not that there's anything wrong with that. :hihi

As I said Rosy, people have to weigh up what they told against other possible theories and I accept that she died as a result of injuries sustained in a car crash. It's the circumstances surrounding the car crash and Princess Di that I question.

JB03,

We can't weigh up the facts if they are hidden. That's the whole point. We're so busy arguing amongst ourselves that those we should really be targeting are looking on laughing at our foolishness. Of course, those who we should be targeting also remain largely hidden.

'Divide and conquer'
 
If they are hidden, how do you know they are their ?

On the Princess Di thing, I can't ever imagine a Grandmother sanctioning the brutal death of her grandchildren's mother.

Unless of course the Grandmother masterminded 911 and ensured WTC7 blew up when the mother was in the building.
 
1eyedtiger said:
Those who accept the official story without question are equally as foolish as those who subscribe to conspiracy theories without question. For gods sake people, use your brain to weigh up the facts in each case and come up with your own conclusion rather than accept someone else's version of events. Unfortunately,the facts are often hidden by those in positions of power and have a lot to lose.

We'll never learn the real truth about Princess Di, will we?

What a load of bull of a society we live in. Can't believe anything anyone says anymore.

Wake up, sheeple! Even if you have used your brains and come to the same conclusion as the offficial story, it is the official story! Use your brains!
 
mld said:
Basically I believe the 'moon landing' was faked; the Illuminati shot the fake landing from their moon base.


Quality. This is actually the contention of one of the go-to guys for hard core conspiracy theorists.


Go to about the 1hr 40 mark for a sample. He even predicts Sandy Hook!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=ioLEFRZP-_A
 
Here's a few more for Disco and Harry to join.

The Earth is Flat Conspiracy http://www.alaska.net/~clund/e_djublonskopf/Flatearthsociety.htm

The Sun revolves around the Earth Conspiracy (lots of graphs to prove this) http://www.atlanteanconspiracy.com/2011/11/earth-is-not-moving.html

The Bermuda Triangle Conspiracy - too many links to post

And my personal favourite, Israel makes Palestinian schoolgirls sexually promiscuous by selling them aphrodisiac bubble-gum that prevents pregnancy. http://www.oddee.com/item_92285.aspx#wwh7OH3k7mMXsu3R.99
 
1eyedtiger said:
As I said Rosy, people have to weigh up what they told against other possible theories and I accept that she died as a result of injuries sustained in a car crash. It's the circumstances surrounding the car crash and Princess Di that I question.

A car accident is hardly a reliable way to kill someone off. I've been in a fatal accident where there was hardly a mark on the car and I've seen cars demolished beyond recognition where everybody walked out virtually unscathed. Very hit and miss considering the consequences of failure.

I don't have any conspiracy theories in regard to this but I'm surprised you question the situation but not that Diana died in the crash.

In regard to your comment son this..

Would they have had an alternative plan to stop Diana telling the story had she survived?
Was she already dead before the car took off?
Why did the pappas accept some responsibility and make a pact to back off in how they follow celebrities if they didn't feel in part responsible?
Did someone order the pappas to chase the car?
Was the driver of the car a martyr for the cause, willing to sacrifice his own life?
Was the car tampered with so it crashing would coincide with the chase?

One thing that's really obvious to me is that people selectively choose what to believe and what to question in regard to conspiracy theories.
 
Baloo said:
If they are hidden, how do you know they are their ?

On the Princess Di thing, I can't ever imagine a Grandmother sanctioning the brutal death of her grandchildren's mother.

Unless of course the Grandmother masterminded 911 and ensured WTC7 blew up when the mother was in the building.

We don't know that there are hidden facts. What we do know is that there is often inconsistencies in the stories we are being told by governments and the media which are never adequately explained, even in the increasingly rare case that an answer is even offered. If there is evidence that what we're told is not true, then we have every right to be suspicious.

I never said that the royal family was behind the death of Princess Di but stranger things have happened.
 
Said it before, if corruption exists within firms and within governments, then conspiracies would also exist.

Why do cops interrogate? Because they have to look and question every possible angle when an event happens. People who have an open mind do the same when valid questions arise after a mysterious/horrific event happens, and that's why they love watching or reading mysteries (fiction or true stories). Missing persons cases are the most interesting.

Theories like the flat earth, Elvis lives, aliens, UFOS are all rubbish and shouldn't be classified with more realistic ones such as 9/11, JFK, Bermuda, Diana etc....

The best way to believe in a conspiracy is to understand and agree with both sides of the story and not just be 100% biased to one side.
 
The Bermuda Triangle should be considered a real conspiracy ?

Who decides what's a real conspiracy and what isn't ?

What happens when someone with an open mind reads the case for the conspiracy and decides that there is nothing there backing a conspiracy ?
 
Baloo said:
The Bermuda Triangle should be considered a real conspiracy ?

Who decides what's a real conspiracy and what isn't ?

What happens when someone with an open mind reads the case for the conspiracy and decides that there is nothing there backing a conspiracy ?

No-one 'decides' a real conspiracy, but if you get continuous disagreements of an 'official report' of a particular event for a long time, then it obviously can build to what we can call a 'realistic' conspiracy. 9/11 and JFK still have a lot of questions after so many years and are still virtually unsolved.

Use the Lance Armstrong situation as an example, when a huge majority around the world would've praised him with huge respect for his awards and charities. If someone had doubts in that he seemed 'too good to be true', that person would've been called a nutcase, and yet have a look at what happened later when the real truth was exposed.

Like I said before, an open-minded person can see both sides of the story, but it doesn't mean that there is still no conspiracy involved somewhere if questions aren't properly answered with real evidence.

Missing persons are probably the closest cases to conspiracy (Harold Holt is an example). Don't waste yourself with idiots that say aliens abducted him. People want to know how he really disappeared and a more realistic conspiracy could exist (drugging him, assassinating him etc...for particular reasons we still don't know).