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Connors
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Tigerbob said:
Was looking at longer term options in our team the last couple of days. The interesting thing is that the accepted training for a modern midfielder is to play a season or two off the HBF to learn how to cover your man, read play, make the right decisions and use the ball most effectively to advantage. At Richmond we have tended more towards permanent players in that role: Newman, McMahon, Moore. Even when we have used prospective midfielders in that role they have not got that many games there: Tambling, Jackson, Deledio, Edwards.
The point is that Connors may well be getting the perfect training to be another bonafide midfielder.
Re: Conners
This is the post that takes the Bertocchi Ham.
Anyway, some great posting in here. ;D
TigerMasochist said:
This is the post that takes the Bertocchi Ham.
Anyway, some great posting in here. ;D
By all reports Connors gets hammered at every function. How has the club allowed this to go on for so long? If the club was serious he would have been suspended the first time this happened. I don't understand how any professional club who pays its players huge dollars, is out there looking for membership and sponsorship dollars in the most competitve league in the country where the number one goal is to win a premiership allows its players to get near alcohol during the season. If the players want to have a drink during the season then they are free to join the bush league. So much time, effort and resources goes into fitness and conditioning, yet the players go out and get hammered during the season proper. How does that work?
There wouldn't be an arguement on this planet that would not agree that alcohol effects performance. You bring up a good point Harry and it has always been a problem whether it's at AFL level or the bush league. We have fitness & conditioning personnel who have studied and are aware of the short & long term setbacks it has on performance & the body and I think it is time the RFC addresses the situation that has embarrased the club & the supporters. For Damien Hardwick it will be a pretty difficult task to curb his players drinking in their own living rooms but it can surely set down ground rules that no alcohol consumption is allowed during the AFL season in any public place by a player and if these rules are broken they will be sanctioned.
It's not rocket science that Connors had curbed his drinking over the pre-season. He came out looking like a new player, had trimmed down and looked more confident than ever. Here is living proof that not having alcohol can have on a players body & mind. He was really looking as if he was taking a turn for the better but unfortunately something steered him the wrong direction on Saturday night.
I hope the RFC addresses the issues with mixing alcohol and sport and the detrimental effects it can have.
It's not rocket science that Connors had curbed his drinking over the pre-season. He came out looking like a new player, had trimmed down and looked more confident than ever. Here is living proof that not having alcohol can have on a players body & mind. He was really looking as if he was taking a turn for the better but unfortunately something steered him the wrong direction on Saturday night.
I hope the RFC addresses the issues with mixing alcohol and sport and the detrimental effects it can have.
When clubs strive for that competitive edge over its competitors, and where a 1% advantage is a massive advantage, it's mind boggling that any club tolerates it's players having a drink during the pre season and season proper. The argument that they are young blokes and want to have a good time doesn't cut it because the AFL is more than just a sport and a social outlet. It's a professional business where a lot is at stake. If they are not prepared to be 100% disciplined then there are other occupations out there. It would be very easy to police also - early morning sessions and a brethaliser would do it.
Connors had an issue coming in and was a reason he was available at pick 58. In three full seasons he has played 13 games(which includes 3 this year) and one of the reasons he has played so few games is his attitude he has now this newest incident added to his record.
Time has come he should be delisted or traded if anyone is interested. Reality is he will end up back at the Echuca Football Club which is itself as big an *smile* club as there is.
Time has come he should be delisted or traded if anyone is interested. Reality is he will end up back at the Echuca Football Club which is itself as big an *smile* club as there is.
brigadiertiger said:
Surely we must give him this one last chance to prove by seasons end that he wants to be a part of it, I don't know all of the ins and out of the incidents involved but they do sound very disturbing to say the least. However this 8 weeks off MAY BE (hopefully) the kick up the bum he needs to get real and show us he wants to be a Richmond player of the future otherwise yes I agree he needs to go
Tiger_4_Life said:
He got away with everything he has to date because he was a good footballer. He has learnt nothing I am not convinced he has the ability to turn it around.
When he was drafted, I remember recruiters saying something in particular.
Along the lines of "we expect him to play up a bit in the first few years, but also believe he could settle in once he matures".
I might be thinking of someone else... but pretty sure they predicted Connors to be the type who wouldn't respond to punishment early on. Once he matured and cemented a spot and felt part of the team, they thought he would be able to change.
Hopefully this is what happens. Some players won't listen when they're teenagers, they love footy and need to be cemented in the team first.
Along the lines of "we expect him to play up a bit in the first few years, but also believe he could settle in once he matures".
I might be thinking of someone else... but pretty sure they predicted Connors to be the type who wouldn't respond to punishment early on. Once he matured and cemented a spot and felt part of the team, they thought he would be able to change.
Hopefully this is what happens. Some players won't listen when they're teenagers, they love footy and need to be cemented in the team first.
Harry said:
Well said? How can you tell someone they’re not allowed a drink at dinner celebrating Mum’s 60th or even their own engagement party because a few other troglodytes can’t handle their *smile*. Imagine telling Cotchin he can’t celebrate his 21st with a few beverages because the tards hindering his football success are now hindering his social life. People are often big on blanket bans when it doesn’t personally impact them.IanG said:
If they turn up tanked or out-of-condition then punish or get rid of them. The whole professional sport era, 1% stuff is rubbish. Cuz was up to eyeballs in substance abuse and won a Brownlow. Fev won the Coleman last year and he isn’t a paragon of abstinence. You telling me J Brown doesn’t have the odd session during the year? Provided they’re not social irresponsible a few drinks won’t hurt at all.
Disappointed. Thought he was playing some decent consistent footy this year. 6 weeks away will be like a serious injury.
Admitting he has a problem is a great start. Hope he hires a personal trainer over his 6 week break - how he comes back from this is now the key. Definite footy talent, maybe not so talented between the ears.
Admitting he has a problem is a great start. Hope he hires a personal trainer over his 6 week break - how he comes back from this is now the key. Definite footy talent, maybe not so talented between the ears.
