Connors

[Tiger74]

We?

Connors will need to do everything in HIS powers to turn HIS attitide around.

thank you - nice to see someone expecting a little personal responsibility around here

 

[Tigers of Old]

We?

Connors will need to do everything in HIS powers to turn HIS attitide around.

Spot on. Time for our footballer's to take responsibility for their actions.
There is no one else to blame and we simply cannot nursemaid every player at club.
Right now Connors is on very thin ice I would think and needs to decide if he wants to be an AFL footballer and all that comes with it.

 

[tigertim]

Well said? How can you tell someone they’re not allowed a drink at dinner celebrating Mum’s 60th or even their own engagement party because a few other troglodytes can’t handle their p!ss. Imagine telling Cotchin he can’t celebrate his 21st with a few beverages because the tards hindering his football success are now hindering his social life. People are often big on blanket bans when it doesn’t personally impact them.

If they turn up tanked or out-of-condition then punish or get rid of them. The whole professional sport era, 1% stuff is rubbish. Cuz was up to eyeballs in substance abuse and won a Brownlow. Fev won the Coleman last year and he isn’t a paragon of abstinence. You telling me J Brown doesn’t have the odd session during the year? Provided they’re not social irresponsible a few drinks won’t hurt at all.

True, I read Wayne Careys book and the lengths he went to in discussing how much p!ss he and the Roos sunk was fairly astonishing. And they were winning flags!

 

[thejinx]

Well said? How can you tell someone they’re not allowed a drink at dinner celebrating Mum’s 60th or even their own engagement party because a few other troglodytes can’t handle their p!ss. Imagine telling Cotchin he can’t celebrate his 21st with a few beverages because the tards hindering his football success are now hindering his social life. People are often big on blanket bans when it doesn’t personally impact them.

If they turn up tanked or out-of-condition then punish or get rid of them. The whole professional sport era, 1% stuff is rubbish. Cuz was up to eyeballs in substance abuse and won a Brownlow. Fev won the Coleman last year and he isn’t a paragon of abstinence. You telling me J Brown doesn’t have the odd session during the year? Provided they’re not social irresponsible a few drinks won’t hurt at all.

Agree to an extent - but when your number 1 at your profession, or your winning flags/brownlows/colemans, you're probably so talented and so fit, that a few drinks won't hurt. IMO, that's a luxury that the best players can afford to have.

But for the average players, the difference between playing a bad game, and playing a good game can come down to a few small things, and having a few drinks here and there might be one of them. Most professional athlete's are extremely strict and particular about what they put into their bodies to get that extra 1% out of themselves, so why shouldn't the athletes and the Richmond Footy Club do the same?

I don't know the science behind it, but I can only assume that Alcohol does nothing to enhance an athlete's physical ability. So the question is, why aren't our guys serious enough about their football, and about getting the best out of themselves that they take the risk?

 

[tigersnake]

No you can't be getting hammered regularly in top level footy anymore. Money, fitness levels required and scrutiny just don't allow. Sounds like the big suspension came too late. Personally I don't buy the huge talent line. He looks like he can play footy a bit, and I appreciate his half-arsed efforts to date may have been due to too much booze, but I reckon his improvement this year has been grossly overrated, I don't believe the hype on his level of talent.

 

[St. Jude]

Well said? How can you tell someone they’re not allowed a drink at dinner celebrating Mum’s 60th or even their own engagement party because a few other troglodytes can’t handle their p!ss. Imagine telling Cotchin he can’t celebrate his 21st with a few beverages because the tards hindering his football success are now hindering his social life. People are often big on blanket bans when it doesn’t personally impact them.

If they turn up tanked or out-of-condition then punish or get rid of them. The whole professional sport era, 1% stuff is rubbish. Cuz was up to eyeballs in substance abuse and won a Brownlow. Fev won the Coleman last year and he isn’t a paragon of abstinence. You telling me J Brown doesn’t have the odd session during the year? Provided they’re not social irresponsible a few drinks won’t hurt at all.

Totally agree here, Professionalism is knowing when to have a drink or two not just stopping your entire life for football. It's widely known that the best footballers also need something outside football for balance.

FFS as others have said before me alittle personal responsability is needed

 

[hopper]

Totally agree here, Professionalism is knowing when to have a drink or two not just stopping your entire life for football. It's widely known that the best footballers also need something outside football for balance.

FFS as others have said before me alittle personal responsability is needed

Agree that we probably wouldn't be talking about this if your approach was taken by all our players.

But, playing devil's advocate for a moment, these guys earn a living through their bodies. Alcohol (even in small doses) has immediate and longer lasting impacts on hydration and organ function. Simply, it is this reason that so many players these days choose not to drink at all during the season. The science is irrefutable. If you drink - you diminish body performance.

That said, I'd hate for somebody to tell me I can't have a drink after a hard day at work.

 

[Big Cat Lover]

Well said? How can you tell someone they’re not allowed a drink at dinner celebrating Mum’s 60th or even their own engagement party because a few other troglodytes can’t handle their p!ss. Imagine telling Cotchin he can’t celebrate his 21st with a few beverages because the tards hindering his football success are now hindering his social life. People are often big on blanket bans when it doesn’t personally impact them.

If they turn up tanked or out-of-condition then punish or get rid of them. The whole professional sport era, 1% stuff is rubbish. Cuz was up to eyeballs in substance abuse and won a Brownlow. Fev won the Coleman last year and he isn’t a paragon of abstinence. You telling me J Brown doesn’t have the odd session during the year? Provided they’re not social irresponsible a few drinks won’t hurt at all.

Spot on Mr Fudd - crazy to think 100% zero tolerance would improve performances - would have a very negative impact IMO. We are not talking about allowing players to get hammered after every game but a few drinks during the week should not be frowned upon. How many is too many is up to the individual.

 

[St. Jude]

Agree that we probably wouldn't be talking about this if your approach was taken by all our players.

But, playing devil's advocate for a moment, these guys earn a living through their bodies. Alcohol (even in small doses) has immediate and longer lasting impacts on hydration and organ function. Simply, it is this reason that so many players these days choose not to drink at all during the season. The science is irrefutable. If you drink - you diminish body performance.

That said, I'd hate for somebody to tell me I can't have a drink after a hard day at work.

Good points all but it is always said that footy is played 90% between the ears and if I drink or two helps in this area by 10% but reduces in the physical area by 5% then I'd let them have a tipple as you're still 5% in front.

 

[Big Cat Lover]

Agree that we probably wouldn't be talking about this if your approach was taken by all our players.

But, playing devil's advocate for a moment, these guys earn a living through their bodies. Alcohol (even in small doses) has immediate and longer lasting impacts on hydration and organ function. Simply, it is this reason that so many players these days choose not to drink at all during the season. The science is irrefutable. If you drink - you diminish body performance.

That said, I'd hate for somebody to tell me I can't have a drink after a hard day at work.

I thought studies showed a glass of wine in moderation had health benefits - you sure all alcohol even in small doses is detrimental?

 

[Barnzy]

We?

Connors will need to do everything in HIS powers to turn HIS attitide around.

Yes, that's a given although probably worded wrong. We need to give him every opportunity to turn his attitude around, a vital player for our future.

 

[Tigers of Old]

a vital player for our future.

Wouldn't go that far but he's shown some promise this season no doubt. Geez I hate that word.

As Harry alluded to earlier the difference between Connors of '09 and his start to this season has been marked.
He looks like he dropped a keg of weight and was finally taking it seriously.
Damn right he's let himself and the club down in this instance.

Far better players in the league in Cousins, Fev, Lovett etc have almost lost their careers due to lack of self control.
Daniel hasn't shown he's near that league of player & he strikes me as a player who has to be 100% committed to his game to get the most out of his abilities.
Anything less and he's running around in the bush leagues. Whether he has the attitude to focus on his football as opposed to partying really is his decision to make right now otherwise someone else will make it for him soon enough.

 

[Barnzy]

Wouldn't go that far but he's shown some promise this season no doubt. Geez I hate that word.

As Harry alluded to earlier the difference between Connors of '09 and his start to this season has been marked.
He looks like he dropped a keg of weight and was finally taking it seriously.
Damn right he's let himself and the club down in this instance.

Far better players in the league in Cousins, Fev, Lovett etc have almost lost their careers due to lack of self control.
Daniel hasn't shown he's near that league of player & he strikes me as a player who has to be 100% committed to his game to get the most out of his abilities.
Anything less and he's running around in the bush leagues. Whether he has the attitude to focus on his football as opposed to partying really is his decision to make right now otherwise someone else will make it for him soon enough.

Indeed. I've always had high hopes for him though as I've always seen his talent. Certainly over his career so far it has been a question of attitude and it looks like it hasn't changed yet. Really hopes he turns it around because I could see him going to another club and starring. Just so disappointed in him, was finally cementing his place in the team and showing his improvement, this is 2 steps backwards for him.

 

[Jezza81]

With the VFL having a week off this week due to the State of Origin game, does it still count as part of Dan's suspension or will the tack on another week?

 

[Giardiasis]

With the VFL having a week off this week due to the State of Origin game, does it still count as part of Dan's suspension or will the tack on another week?

It is 8 weeks of AFL so it would count.

 

[Gunsmoke]

Six weeks is up now, so doesn't he start training with the team again this week?

 

[Danog]

Connors' value will come from allowing Deledio to move back into the midfield.

 

[SPARTACUS]

Some of you need to go to a few VFL games, if Conners is part of our future heaven help us, brainless, lazy, low skilled turnover king, will need a full labotomy to become an AFL player

 

[WesternTiger]

Some of you need to go to a few VFL games, if Conners is part of our future heaven help us, brainless, lazy, low skilled turnover king, will need a full labotomy to become an AFL player

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Gee Sparts it appears that you are the only one who goes to see Coburg that holds such an opinion.

When was the last time you posted a report on Coburg?

 

[GoodOne]

Some of you need to go to a few VFL games, if Conners is part of our future heaven help us, brainless, lazy, low skilled turnover king, will need a full labotomy to become an AFL player

Rubbish! In best players almost every week and was excellent in the first few AFL games. Not sure what your motive is here.