Changes

[Brodders17]

No chance wouldn't have thought.

If someone else gets injured and we can't choose who comes off we will be waaayyy too top heavy.

The alternative is what happens if Soldo is out of legs by half way through the 3rd, do we rely on Ryan to ruck the last 45minutes against Witts, and Jack play as the only tall forward? There is surely little chance Soldo can run out a game.
We did start the year with Jack, Ryan and Lynch playing alongside Nank.

Im not saying it will, or i think it should, just I wouldnt be surprised.

 

[RoarEmotion]

I'd say Ins, Soldo, Broad, Ross, Sonsie
Outs; Prestia (managed), MJ (Inj), Miller (omitted), Hugo (omitted).

Yep this was my list of preferred changes with big question marks on soldo/miller around soldo fitness levels. maybe that should wait a week and soldo play vfl and put miller on notice to hurt some people.

 

[TigerFlag2017]

We are that desperate for a ruck that an underdone soldo goes straight in . Hopefully he has done a heap of conditioning work

Far from ideal that Soldo goes straight into the seniors.

Very happy to see the big lug back from injury, but due to his non-natural football background, it will be a while until he plays decent football IMO

 

[spook]

The alternative is what happens if Soldo is out of legs by half way through the 3rd, do we rely on Ryan to ruck the last 45minutes against Witts, and Jack play as the only tall forward? There is surely little chance Soldo can run out a game.
We did start the year with Jack, Ryan and Lynch playing alongside Nank.

Im not saying it will, or i think it should, just I wouldnt be surprised.

The saving grace is that Witts can't run either.

 

[BT Tiger]

The alternative is what happens if Soldo is out of legs by half way through the 3rd, do we rely on Ryan to ruck the last 45minutes against Witts, and Jack play as the only tall forward? There is surely little chance Soldo can run out a game.
We did start the year with Jack, Ryan and Lynch playing alongside Nank.

Im not saying it will, or i think it should, just I wouldnt be surprised.

Surely they'd wouldn't have named Soldo if they weren't confident that he could run out a game.

 

[dimmauchump]

Surely they'd wouldn't have named Soldo if they weren't confident that he could run out a game.

No chance Soldo runs out the game. Hasn't had any continuity for almost 2 years now and that includes pre season training. It is a silly call from the MC. As bad as Miller has been he just had to stay in the team due to our injuries. Soldo MUST come through the ressies with a min. month of footy.
It will be another horror call from MC that will have an effect on how this games turns out. So frustrating.

 

[bugsy]

Soldo, Ryan and Balta can share the rucking. Gives us better balance and strength. It’s the best we can do until Nank gets back.

I’m still sticking with my prediction of us winning 4 of our next 5 games.

 

[Tiger Pops]

can make an argument to bring in all the extended bench selections. We'll see 5pm today.

 

[AstuteTiger]

Yep this was my list of preferred changes with big question marks on soldo/miller around soldo fitness levels. maybe that should wait a week and soldo play vfl and put miller on notice to hurt some people.

As much as that would be the preferred, Miller just doesn't play that way and for the club to put Soldo in immediately shows the lack of faith they have in him.
For such a big man, he doesn't excerpt himself enough contests, and is easily outhustled saw that enough when he was playing back.

Maybe Soldo can ruck between the arcs when the ball is forward Ryan can ruck, and when the ball is back Balta can chime in.

Anyways, hope Soldo has a good one.

 

[TigerForce]

So, assuming Dimma said Jack Ross is in but not Bauer.

 

[Smoking Aces]

After listening to Dimmas presser this is how I think it will go;

Out: MRJ, Prestia, Miller
In: Ross, Broad, Soldo

Baker to push forward.

 

[dimmauchump]

Don't like Baker forward. Been good for our backline as we need clean hands and he is probably one of the best at the club. Ditto Balta. Must never leave the backline as we saw the outcome on Monday.
Hope Dimma hasn't been spooked and he starts throwing the chess pieces around again. Will not be a great outcome as we witnessed the last 2 years. Play your players in their strongest positions and don't try and compensate for other areas. Better to try a youngster that has been drafted for that position rather than moving all the pieces around to try and plug a hole.
Mansell is one lucky bloke. How he gets rewarded another game is beyond me. Absolute ZERO influence on any games thus far. Hardly see him tackle. Hardly see him near the ball. I just don't understand the role he is playing.

 

[Merveille]

Would rather Bauer given a crack in his spot

Don't like Baker forward. Been good for our backline as we need clean hands and he is probably one of the best at the club. Ditto Balta. Must never leave the backline as we saw the outcome on Monday.
Hope Dimma hasn't been spooked and he starts throwing the chess pieces around again. Will not be a great outcome as we witnessed the last 2 years. Play your players in their strongest positions and don't try and compensate for other areas. Better to try a youngster that has been drafted for that position rather than moving all the pieces around to try and plug a hole.
Mansell is one lucky bloke. How he gets rewarded another game is beyond me. Absolute ZERO influence on any games thus far. Hardly see him tackle. Hardly see him near the ball. I just don't understand the role he is playing.

True, but Do you play Rioli. Short and Baker in the same backline? I think Short has to stay back as we saw last week. Just not as effective anywhere else. Baker can be more effective elsewhere is probably what they thinking. Baker, Short, Rioli, Vlastuin, Grimes, Balta, Young is the 7 , oh yeah Broad - too many...!

 

[DavidSSS]

I would have a go at Baker in the forward line, Mansell was playing back until this year. He can play that defensive forward role and get his own ball.

As for Balta, just draw a line across the ground, he never goes forward, I just reckon he is less able to be a forward and can be decent as a defender.

DS

 

[mrposhman]

True, but Do you play Rioli. Short and Baker in the same backline? I think Short has to stay back as we saw last week. Just not as effective anywhere else. Baker can be more effective elsewhere is probably what they thinking. Baker, Short, Rioli, Vlastuin, Grimes, Balta, Young is the 7 , oh yeah Broad - too many...!

Exactly, its number with Bakes.

The last 3 weeks we've gone from
Balta, Grimes, Young, Vlastuin, Baker, Rioli, Ralph Smith as our 7 to:
Balta Grimes, Young, Vlatuin, Baker, Rioli and Short as our Back 7

With Broad coming back, 1 of those numbers need to drop out. I don't think they'll take a tall out, so it comes down to Rioli (who is a gun HBF), Short or Bakes. Short could probably move into the midfield again, but I think he's clearly shown that he's best utilised as that link between defence and midfield and his long kicking keeps us moving.

Bakes will move forwards and replace MRJ in the forward line IMO. He will likely come up the ground a fair bit and rotate with mids into the forward line.

The biggest questions to answer are 1 - will Soldo play (Dimma still left this fairly open, using the words "could come in" in his presser, and then if we does whether Miller keeps his spot, again Dimma mentioned 3 players for the ruck roles of Soldo, Ryan and Miller. So is it 2 from 3, or will it be all 3.

 

[dimmauchump]

True, but Do you play Rioli. Short and Baker in the same backline? I think Short has to stay back as we saw last week. Just not as effective anywhere else. Baker can be more effective elsewhere is probably what they thinking. Baker, Short, Rioli, Vlastuin, Grimes, Balta, Young is the 7 , oh yeah Broad - too many...!

I think Baker forward is a waste. Not sure he has a natural goal sense. As a defensive forward perhaps but that is a position that has lost its currency in today's game. Unless you are coming up against a *smile* Naicos perhaps.
Pretty sure we tried Bakes further up the ground last year or the year before and he seemed to lose his way and play some very average football. He has been one of our best this year. Again we are moving players out of their best positions to fit them all in. Won't work. I'd move Short further up the ground and then get him to sweep behind the ball providing run through the middle

 

[Merveille]

I think Baker forward is a waste. Not sure he has a natural goal sense. As a defensive forward perhaps but that is a position that has lost its currency in today's game. Unless you are coming up against a *smile* Naicos perhaps.
Pretty sure we tried Bakes further up the ground last year or the year before and he seemed to lose his way and play some very average football. He has been one of our best this year. Again we are moving players out of their best positions to fit them all in. Won't work. I'd move Short further up the ground and then get him to sweep behind the ball providing run through the middle

So does he start as a wingman? He is in effectual at centre bounces. Maybe a high half forward who rolls all the way back to defence and then helps mount attack from there. The thing is it can't be denied his best position is half back - Bn F in Premiership year, and the is actually your argument to lay them in best positions. Dare I say it, just can't get the 'team balance' right at the minute

 

[dimmauchump]

So does he start as a wingman? He is in effectual at centre bounces. Maybe a high half forward who rolls all the way back to defence and then helps mount attack from there. The thing is it can't be denied his best position is half back - Bn F in Premiership year, and the is actually your argument to lay them in best positions. Dare I say it, just can't get the 'team balance' right at the minute

That is the biggest issue atm. We are just not picking the right balance. Have either gone in too tall. Too short. Wrong players selected. Players not in the right positions. Wrong subs selections. Wrong subs being made during the game.

On top of all this we are now turning Bauer into a HBF as well.

 

[mrposhman]

That is the biggest issue atm. We are just not picking the right balance. Have either gone in too tall. Too short. Wrong players selected. Players not in the right positions. Wrong subs selections. Wrong subs being made during the game.

On top of all this we are now turning Bauer into a HBF as well.

We aren't "turning him into a HBF". He has been a HBF for a lot of his junior career and he certainly appears to be very good at it.

You are one of those that always seem to claim you are right but you are hypocritical. You say, play players in their best positions, and then rant on that you'd move Short up the ground, when its clear his best position is that link between defence and midfield. Bakes is more a midfielder than Shorty is.

BTW Bakes played his junior footy as a forward, were we wrong to "turn him into a HBF". Exactly the same can be said for Shorty but of course you are always right and the club is wrong right??

 

[dimmauchump]

We aren't "turning him into a HBF". He has been a HBF for a lot of his junior career and he certainly appears to be very good at it.

You are one of those that always seem to claim you are right but you are hypocritical. You say, play players in their best positions, and then rant on that you'd move Short up the ground, when its clear his best position is that link between defence and midfield. Bakes is more a midfielder than Shorty is.

BTW Bakes played his junior footy as a forward, were we wrong to "turn him into a HBF". Exactly the same can be said for Shorty but of course you are always right and the club is wrong right??

Lol. I have said you play your players where they play their best footy.

So what YOU are saying is that Bauer has played as a HBF a lot of his junior career. So why did the club try and turn him into a fwd? Why when we drafted him did we not play him in the backline?

Where has Baker played his best footy for the RFC club? Back or Fwd?

Where has Short played his best footy? As a sweeper coming off HB. Never been a great defender but been a fantastic runner. People are saying replace Short for Baker. Baker plays as a small defender.

Where does Balta play his best football? Down back. All i'm saying is stop moving blokes around once they have settled and played their best footy in a certain position.

What about Ross?? Came to the club and played his first couple of games as a genuine mid and looked the goods. Club have been hellbent on turning him into a winger.

Miller. Came as a defender and i thought he was going ok. Club decided to move him all around the ground and not dont know where to play him now.

Shai played junior as a mid. We have tried to keep him up forward for the most part when he is great at winning his own ball.

We have constantly made the wrong selections this year and it has cost us in games. The sub last week another example.

Yes there are exceptions to the rule ala Rioli but how many of those have we had?

Club don't always get everything right.