In: Cotchin, Martin (wonder how many times ins have been 2 brownlow medallists)
Out: Prestia, Soldo
Out: Prestia, Soldo
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Absolute rubbish.
You are neatly ignoring the fact the our clearance work is *much* better when Soldo is rucking. We clear through clean taps or we halve 666 bounce down contests which allows us to reset to a +1 down back.
Needless to say this is integral to how we set up.
Soldo got dropped cos he wasn’t ready. He is now a month on and moving more freely and for longer.
Nankervis is a captain and bleeds for us but he is out of form, pure and simple. Panicked disposal, silt frees, jittery marks.
Make no mistake, it is a selection dilemma for wet weather. Nank solo may get the nod, but not without robust discussion.
In dry conditions Soldo is now #1
Stats alone tell only half the story
How you come to that conclusion so categorically is amazing. Nank has been a key factor in the premierships, only if he starts failing in the big games does Soldo become No.1. Soldo has been poor since returning. He needs to do way more IMO to assume the No.1 mantle.
Dimma loves Soldo in the side. He basically said in his presser that Tarrant won't play, which means Balta stays back, which means we play two rucks and again exploit the opposition's weakness. Prestia unlikely, talked up RCD's, MoJu's and Stack's games but indicated Pickett would be right to go, so...
In: Cotchin, Martin, Pickett
Out: Prestia, RCD, Sheds (managed) or Stack
B: Grimes Balta Gibcus
HB: Vlastuin Broad DRioli
C: Pickett Short McIntosh
HF: Lambert Castagna Stack/Sheds
F: Riewoldt Lynch MRioli
R: Nank Cotch Shai
I: Soldo Dusty Graham Baker
Sub: Sheds/RCD
In: Cotchin, Martin, Pickett
Out: Prestia, RCD, Sheds (managed) or Stack
B: Grimes Balta Gibcus
HB: Vlastuin Broad DRioli
C: Pickett Short McIntosh
HF: Lambert Castagna Stack/Sheds
F: Riewoldt Lynch MRioli
R: Nank Cotch Shai
I: Soldo Dusty Graham Baker
Sub: Sheds/RCD
So we’re clear, your argument is
1) Nank was a pillar in our flags (no argument) so therefore must be #1 ruck in round 8 2022.
2) we should only question his output if he fails in BIG games (dude at 3-4 every game is rather large)
Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha
I think you have nailed it Spook. Though I think Stack goes out instead of Edwards. But my preference is for the opposite.
Really surprised about Tarrant. But the right call.
Dimma is going to earn his pay this week. Selection headaches and managing some pissed off players.
The evidence suggests this is not correct. Opponents have scored from Soldo hitouts at twice the rate of any other ruck, and at least nearly 3x that rate of Nank taps. Nank is averaging twice as many disposals. Free against Nank "leads" by .4 per game, 2.4-2. Nank was better than Soldo on Friday by any measure, and has been better across the season.
Sharked Hitouts %
Ivan Soldo (Richmond) - 36.0
Luke Jackson (Melbourne) - 31.7
Sam Draper (Essendon) - 27.6
Oscar McInerny (Brisbane) - 26.5
Lloyd Meek (Fremantle) - 26.1
Rhys Stanley (Geelong) - 26.1
Rowan Marshall (St Kilda) - 25.9
Brodie Grundy (Collingwood) - 25.3
Hugh Dixon (West Coast) - 25
Reilly O'Brien (Adelaide) - 24.7
Hitouts to Opposition Score %
Ivan Soldo (Richmond) - 22.0
Sam Draper (Essendon) - 12.0
Tom Hickey (Sydney) - 11.0
Hugh Dixon (West Coast) - 10.7
Nic Naitanui (West Coast) - 10.1
Luke Jackson (Melbourne) - 10.0
Paddy Ryder (St Kilda) - 9.5
Brodie Grundy (Collingwood) - 9.3
So that’s what you’ve been doing for the last 45 min, lol
Seriously? What are the hit out numbers? Or did you lose them somehow?
These stats do NOT provide the entire picture and you know it.
Soldo gets HITOUTS. Nank is a battering ram. Our midfield has been without class and speed for some time.
Is it on Soldo or is it on Dow, Aarts, Graham, Edwards etc who have all moved through there?
Where are our clearance stats head to head Nank vs Soldo?
What about Nank’s clangers?
Game situation? Critical turnovers?
Soldo has played what, 2-3 games?
He is now better with his ruck craft than Nankervis. This from simply watching the footy.
I’d play both at every opportunity, and do not doubt for a moment that Soldo is #1. This will become more apparent as the year wears on with Shorty and Dusty in there.
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Have to be Ross for Pickett I would have thought?
Prestia for Martin
Someone unlikely for Cotchin (hoping not RCD or Stack)
True but if he isn’t best choice in wet conditions, maybe Grimes alone will have to do the job.
you are funny, but anyway.
you said with Soldo rucking we either wint he clearance or halve it. the facts are the opposition score more from a Soldo hit out than any other ruck, by a significant margin. the rest of your post is just deflection from that.
I will agree we should play both, as long as we stick with 2 tall forwards.
when you say Soldo is No 1 is that in your head or the match committees, IYO?
you haven't answered the primary question - do we win more clearances with Soldo or not?
you dribbled out oppo score from Soldo's hits. I can easily tell you why this is happening to Soldo:
Our midfield sets up to shark the pill as Nank often sets out to disrupt oppo rucks, not actually win HTA. it is entirely possible our mids are not yet in sync with Soldo for 2022. This would explain why his clear taps are going to oppo.
Your "analysis" is based on a couple of games, does not include OUR clearance stats and does not include our midfield's culpability in oppo scores from HO. Soldo is building nicely into the #1 ruck role.
Nank has started games in the middle because Soldo is still on the comeback trail and Nank is great at establishing a physical tone for the game.
Fly is all class. Still rankles that he is with the mob across the road.................
AFL site says pies have man flu issues with 4 missing training. Not ideal prep as we saw in 18 PF. Astbury was a space cadet that game along with a few others.
