capital punishment..ivan milat..j.knight.p.dupas..and any other scum

[Disco08]

I'm not arguing the details of the case. There have been a number of cases in modern history where the evidence seemed overwhelming but still the truth was missed initially.

 

[Panthera tigris FC]

All the evidence gathered proved he deliberately ran the car off the road....deliberately swerved to miss a tree.....deliberately turned off the ignition and lights so it would be very hard for any rescuer to quickly find the car in the attempt to rescue any of the kids....deliberately waved down a passer-by and got taken to the ex-wife's place, instead of getting anyone to help get at ;east one of the kids out.

Sorry.....you're grasing at straws, instead of grasping for the switch...

The fallibility of the justice system is only one of many arguments against capital punishment. Fortunately we live in a country that understands them.

 

[jb03]

The Farquarson one is a tough one.

I just can't get it in my head that someon would willingly kill his three kids, despite the level of hatred to the ex-wife. 'Simply' bumping off the ex I can understand but the kids? Makes no sense.

Looking at the path of travel they published in the paper I failed to see the three distinct turns they talked about. Looked like one gradual turn. Cars can end up in all sorts of freakish positions. I thought also the testimony of the friend could be dismissed as well, we've all said we'd like to 'kill someone' without really meaning it - witness Richmond supporters at a game or the play 12 Angry Men.

Something is not quite right.

 

[Liverpool]

I'm not arguing the details of the case. There have been a number of cases in modern history where the evidence seemed overwhelming but still the truth was missed initially.

Well, I am talking about THIS case.

The Farquarson one is a tough one.

I just can't get it in my head that someon would willingly kill his three kids, despite the level of hatred to the ex-wife. 'Simply' bumping off the ex I can understand but the kids? Makes no sense.

Looking at the path of travel they published in the paper I failed to see the three distinct turns they talked about. Looked like one gradual turn. Cars can end up in all sorts of freakish positions. I thought also the testimony of the friend could be dismissed as well, we've all said we'd like to 'kill someone' without really meaning it - witness Richmond supporters at a game or the play 12 Angry Men.
Something is not quite right.

I'm sure people would have thought the same about the Chinese bloke who dumped 'Pumpkin' at the train station if it wasn't captured on security footage.....and I'm sure people thought the same about this bloke as well:

http://www.theage.com.au/news/National/Family-murder-too-awful-to-contemplate/2005/04/26/1114462038591.html

Sorry JB...but there are some evil cretins out there, Farquarson another one to add to the list, I'm afraid.

 

[jb03]

Well, I am talking about THIS case.

I'm sure people would have thought the same about the Chinese bloke who dumped 'Pumpkin' at the train station if it wasn't captured on security footage.....and I'm sure people thought the same about this bloke as well:

http://www.theage.com.au/news/National/Family-murder-too-awful-to-contemplate/2005/04/26/1114462038591.html

Sorry JB...but there are some evil cretins out there, Farquarson another one to add to the list, I'm afraid.

I'm not talking about the individual, just the circumstances.

 

[1eyedtiger]

I don't believe that any physical evidence will prove him %100 guilty or innocent.

Because there is doubt, I don't believe capital punishment should be applied in this particular case.

Difficult to say what should be done but the correctional facility in 'The Minority Report' would come in handy about now!

 

[Disco08]

Well, I am talking about THIS case.

No *smile*?

This could be one of the cases I'm talking about. That's the point.

 

[ssstone]

as i have 3 kids as well j.b,i also find it hard that someone could do that ?but i also find it hard to understand why martin bryant did what he did.and remember fred west raped all of his kids and murdered two of them.but like you i also dissmiiss his mates testomony.but i.m.o the physical evidence points to guilty your honor

 

[Harry]

The Farquarson one is a tough one.

I just can't get it in my head that someon would willingly kill his three kids, despite the level of hatred to the ex-wife. 'Simply' bumping off the ex I can understand but the kids? Makes no sense.

Undersatnd what you are saying but there have been many instances of people killing thier own kids.

 

[Liverpool]

I'm not talking about the individual, just the circumstances.

And the circumstances are:

All the evidence gathered proved he deliberately ran the car off the road....deliberately swerved to miss a tree.....deliberately turned off the ignition and lights so it would be very hard for any rescuer to quickly find the car in the attempt to rescue any of the kids....deliberately waved down a passer-by and got taken to the ex-wife's place, instead of getting anyone to help get at least one of the kids out.

Why would all this happen if he was trying to SAVE his kids?

 

[Six Pack]

Whatever happened on that day, one thing is irrefutable and that is that its an absolute tragedy that the children died. I know a lot of people personally affected by this tragedy and it's going to haunt them for the rest of their lives.

I regularly drive past the place where it happened and there are three little white crosses on the fence near the dam. It's heartbreaking.

I have no particular opinion on whether Farqharson commited the crime or not, but i have to accept that he was found guilty in a court of law.

having said that, i remain utterly opposed to the death penalty. It's barbaric and it won't bring the kids back.

 

[Tiger74]

What's the point in keeping someone in jail for life when there is undeniable evidence and/or a confession for a brutal crime. If they are at "the point of no return" where there is absolutely no doubt about guilt then they should be disposed of. Simple. Why waste time and money on feeding and sheltering them? What is this going to achieve if there is no intention of rehabilitation and release? Grown adults brutally raping and slitting the throat of children is a clear example of the human species gone wrong and there should be a methodical approach of extinguishing them.

Why let a guy die in peace? Let him suffer for the rest of his days in a cell, being raped by Bubba.

 

[jb03]

Undersatnd what you are saying but there have been many instances of people killing thier own kids.

Agree but rarely at that age and by someone of seemingly sound mind.

as i have 3 kids as well j.b,i also find it hard that someone could do that ?but i also find it hard to understand why martin bryant did what he did.and remember fred west raped all of his kids and murdered two of them.but like you i also dissmiiss his mates testomony.but i.m.o the physical evidence points to guilty your honor

Bit different I think Stoney, Bryant was an out and out nutter and didn't know his victims. Farqarson, despite a messy divorce had a lot to live for; even just in the three kids alone.

 

[Liverpool]

Whatever happened on that day, one thing is irrefutable and that is that its an absolute tragedy that the children died. I know a lot of people personally affected by this tragedy and it's going to haunt them for the rest of their lives.
I regularly drive past the place where it happened and there are three little white crosses on the fence near the dam. It's heartbreaking.
I have no particular opinion on whether Farqharson commited the crime or not, but i have to accept that he was found guilty in a court of law.
having said that, i remain utterly opposed to the death penalty. It's barbaric and it won't bring the kids back.

One for the "soft" thread, Sixpack... :hihi

We're not talking about bringing the kids back (or as other posters have mentioned, capital punishment is not a deterrent)...we're talking about what someone like this DESERVES for his crime.

Whether it is Milat, Bryant, Farquarson, Sharpe....what do they DESERVE for their crimes, where they took the lives of other innocent human beings?

 

[ssstone]

Why let a guy die in peace? Let him suffer for the rest of his days in a cell, being raped by Bubba.

rarely happens in these days of duty of care t74.but i understand your sentiments ;D

 

[Harry]

It's barbaric and it won't bring the kids back.

Jail sentence won't bring them back either. You can also argue that jail is barbaric and wrong.

 

[Panthera tigris FC]

One for the "soft" thread, Sixpack... :hihi

We're not talking about bringing the kids back (or as other posters have mentioned, capital punishment is not a deterrent)...we're talking about what someone like this DESERVES for his crime.

Whether it is Milat, Bryant, Farquarson, Sharpe....what do they DESERVE for their crimes, where they took the lives of other innocent human beings?

So your moral stance essentially boils down to 'an eye for an eye'.

Not surprising really.

 

[Harry]

Why let a guy die in peace? Let him suffer for the rest of his days in a cell, being raped by Bubba.

Or he could be doing the raping and have a harem.

 

[Six Pack]

One for the "soft" thread, Sixpack... :hihi

We're not talking about bringing the kids back (or as other posters have mentioned, capital punishment is not a deterrent)...we're talking about what someone like this DESERVES for his crime.

Whether it is Milat, Bryant, Farquarson, Sharpe....what do they DESERVE for their crimes, where they took the lives of other innocent human beings?

the 'soft thread' is a place for joking around. i dont think anything to do with this case is amusing at all. Then again, maybe u do.

 

[ssstone]

Agree but rarely at that age and by someone of seemingly sound mind.


Bit different I think Stoney, Bryant was an out and out nutter and didn't know his victims. Farqarson, despite a messy divorce had a lot to live for; even just in the three kids alone.

and this bloke isnt a nutter?