Your negativity is getting rather boring and repetitive… Time to give it a rest champ!!
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Callum Coleman-Judas - extricate yourself to Nth Ballarat, you git
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Have you actually thought about your stupid comment? Maybe sit back and have a think about who we’re about to get with the picks we received for Higgins and the pick we’re about to get for CCJ. Some people have no idea
A future 3rd rounder. Are these *smile* for real? *smile* it let him walk
Simple matter of putting the details into the contract to start with. Your scenario is no different to training an apprentice.
Way back in the dim dark ages, parents paid a craftsman to train their kids in a craft because after the kid learnt the craft he was set up for employment for life. Kid was also treated as barely better than a slave back then.
Things have changed massively over the years, for the better obviously. But there's still an archaic system within some areas of professional sport whereby clubs are somehow deemed to still own a players livelihood even after the contractual agreement has expired, While clubs also expect the right to terminate or on sell the contract as it suits them
Fantastic post N8.
Without having done all the research, must be close to Post of The Year.
Nice to see the sincerity n honesty of the meat market in full swing on opening day.
#lolnorf offering a future swap of third n fourth rounders for Cujo.
Geelold requesting pick 8 for young Clark that they won't even put games into.
Wet Coke offering pick 52 for Carlscums former pick 6 SPS.
Mould Coast giving away a player plus a quality bonus pick gifted from H.Q. just to be able to avoid cheating on the salary conditions of the comp.
#lolnorf offering a future swap of third n fourth rounders for Cujo.
Geelold requesting pick 8 for young Clark that they won't even put games into.
Wet Coke offering pick 52 for Carlscums former pick 6 SPS.
Mould Coast giving away a player plus a quality bonus pick gifted from H.Q. just to be able to avoid cheating on the salary conditions of the comp.
If the offer remains as it is for CCJ my inclination would be to walk away from the table and let him go to the PSD. Whilst it is true in one sense that he will then cost North nothing, in another sense it will cost them the first crack at the best delisted player available. They don't know who that may be, it could be a missed opportunity for them.
It was only Day One, a lifetime of crazy days to go.
But based on that ridiculous 3rd/4th swap offer (if true and both The Age/AFL Twomey article confirm something like this), I've changed my belief we can get 20 in anyway. No longer think it will happen.
Its unfortunate b/c I reckon pick 20 was the opportunity to open up the upgrade for us in the Top 10. Not to be I think.
Here's hoping CJ's m/ment either re-sign with the Tigers or threaten another contract elsewhere to force a slightly better 'fairer' deal. But no confidence.
Our power in this negotiation is
1. Norths reputation
2. Norths opportunity lost picking up a player in the PSD - potentially an Adam Cerra type.
3. CCJ's reputation - he doesn't want a quarter of a million people hating him if he walks
4. His managements reputation - which is everything to them.
North have set the tone of the negotiation with an absurd ambit claim.
so RFC should make a claim as absurd, and the same distance from a reasonable outcome, as theirs.
which is Pick 1.
1. Norths reputation
2. Norths opportunity lost picking up a player in the PSD - potentially an Adam Cerra type.
3. CCJ's reputation - he doesn't want a quarter of a million people hating him if he walks
4. His managements reputation - which is everything to them.
North have set the tone of the negotiation with an absurd ambit claim.
so RFC should make a claim as absurd, and the same distance from a reasonable outcome, as theirs.
which is Pick 1.
North’s offer is belligerent. It is saying “we know you need this trade done early to package further into the top ten but we aren’t just a speed bump, dammit.”
No, NMFC. You are just a speed bump.
After that offer from North, I would seriously stop wasting time with them. Stop talking to Glenn Luff and work further into the top 10 with existing picks.
Let CCJ and his management cook in the silence and in the last few days of trade slap a fair 1-2 year deal on the table.
If he walks, he walks. And we never deal with Glenn Luff again.
No, NMFC. You are just a speed bump.
After that offer from North, I would seriously stop wasting time with them. Stop talking to Glenn Luff and work further into the top 10 with existing picks.
Let CCJ and his management cook in the silence and in the last few days of trade slap a fair 1-2 year deal on the table.
If he walks, he walks. And we never deal with Glenn Luff again.
Wake up mate
We fked up the 2017 draft
First pick and 2nd pick both gone.
We shouldve donated them to Collingwood
Both are first 22 players in most sides with a considerable career ahead of them both. Not bad drafting. Bad retention skills but not bad drafting.
They get Coleman Jones for nothing.
That flogjocks from champion data is trying to prove himself.
If gives up pick 20 when David King, Wayne Carey etc are calling for Coleman Jones to be a free player through the pre-season draft.
Let's move on. *smile* North and start trading away picks and get a team ready to challenge again next year
In my eyes its bad drafting.
Both in the space of 4 years just walked out of the club.
Imagine what you could've done with pick 17 and 20 ready made midfielder.
Wines was crying to come home.
People aren't really upset because we have won 3 flags.
But our drafting in the national draft is still a major concern.
I understand your point General and believe it’s fair that the business gets its cost of tuition and development back. And that is all agreed to upfront. Your high school friends won’t be limited to say a ten year career if they perform well above the mean. We grab kids from school and bring them into a competitive environment where their every move is scrutinised. We pay them well. Very well. But the commitment may be 2 years, might be as long as 7-8 years in exceptional circumstances. They are well aware they are joining an industry that has a high churn rate where the employer will drop you out if a better alternative can be brought in. So they have to do the best with what they have for a short window.
We had 4 years to look at him and work on him. I am annoyed he is leaving because I think he owes us on the back of kebabgate and a staff member lost their job as a result. And he has potential. But, am not critical of him taking the certainty of the dough and tenure of contract. He could do a knee in season one, never come back the same player and disappear into oblivion. Who knows?
I hope he watches us win multiple flags from the MCC stands while his replacement stars for us……
