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Callum Coleman-Judas - extricate yourself to Nth Ballarat, you git
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Would be great if he is but no way of finding out unless RFC update the website, He was drafted as an 18 year old 5 months and boys can grow a bit after that age but usually 1-2 cm.TigerFlag2017 said:
Lets hope he has grown as he doesnt have a huge leap and height would certainly be an advantage if he was 203-204 for CJ
Chol was 198cm and now is 200cm
Im hoping we re rookie him think he is worth another 2 years (if we dont select Bailey Williams)
Im hoping we re rookie him think he is worth another 2 years (if we dont select Bailey Williams)
The eyes can deceive you at this time of year but CCJ is looking super fit and sharp, he is so clean with his hands in traffic and showed that at training yesterday in a frenzied in tight 5 on 5 handball drill. The knock on CCJ coming into the draft was supposedly below average agility, (agility and speed are two different things), and kicking. After season 1 the jury is still out for me on the agility, (I think a fellow Pre-Ender said he reminded him of Adam Pattison, let's hope not ;D) , his kicking action looks awkward but adequate for a ruckman and seems to find the sticks as a forward.
Anyway CCJ had a few injuries in his 2017 draft year which didn't help, and at this time last year was not due to train till after Christmas. Then he was placed on a specialized program of less games and more development type training, (whether that be strength or running?), to fast track him for the physical requirements of AFL, nothing was expected of him in 2018 all eyes were on 2019.
Appears to be off to a flying pre-season and moving really well, (hopefully not a case of my eyes deceiving me
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Anyway CCJ had a few injuries in his 2017 draft year which didn't help, and at this time last year was not due to train till after Christmas. Then he was placed on a specialized program of less games and more development type training, (whether that be strength or running?), to fast track him for the physical requirements of AFL, nothing was expected of him in 2018 all eyes were on 2019.
Appears to be off to a flying pre-season and moving really well, (hopefully not a case of my eyes deceiving me
).
caesar said:The eyes can deceive you at this time of year but CCJ is looking super fit and sharp, he is so clean with his hands in traffic and showed that at training yesterday in a frenzied in tight 5 on 5 handball drill. The knock on CCJ coming into the draft was supposedly below average agility, (agility and speed are two different things), and kicking. After season 1 the jury is still out for me on the agility, (I think a fellow Pre-Ender said he reminded him of Adam Pattison, let's hope not ;D) , his kicking action looks awkward but adequate for a ruckman and seems to find the sticks as a forward.
Anyway CCJ had a few injuries in his 2017 draft year which didn't help, and at this time last year was not due to train till after Christmas. Then he was placed on a specialized program of less games and more development type training, (whether that be strength or running?), to fast track him for the physical requirements of AFL, nothing was expected of him in 2018 all eyes were on 2019.
Appears to be off to a flying pre-season and moving really well, (hopefully not a case of my eyes deceiving me
No deception Julius. I'm expecting him to dominate the 2nds and possibly debut late in 2019.
This guy has talent AND desire. I've seen it. I am looking for big things from CCJ but still alot of development to do in the reserves. Hopefully he can can a taste in 2019 of what AFL level footy is like but I won't be disappointed if he doesn't get any game time. He's a great prospect.
Dont Argue said:Especially from me. Then Balta can go back to CHB where he belongs! IMHO :
As I have kept telling you, correctly, DA - Balta is most likely the best future replacement for our vital match-saver in Alex 'the great' Rance. However, hopefully that's some years away ... don't tease the injury gods. Garth is the ready-made for Astbury - a bit more dour, less talented but tough, hard and honest compared to Balta's natural attacking flair.
The hardest position to play on the field is the KPFs. So much pressure from usually several defenders, needing to mark or possess the ball from limited chances, then turn 180^ and do something effective with it in a second or two. Balta must be tried as an offensive weapon first just to see what he can bring. We have the luxury of being able to gradually introduce him off the bench into minor, brief forward or mid roles because we have all the KPPs covered very well. Except if Tom is not ready for a few weeks - then Balta may be the understudy until he's right, putting into practice the new game-plan. Otherwise, if big Tom is right to go, he could be given bursts as relief ruck, midfield and across the wings. Also deep forward when Jack or Tom need a rest.
He's an exciting prospect who could become an attacking player. These win matches. Can't wait to see him in the AFL side, but I'm patient. He's just 19.
caesar said:The eyes can deceive you at this time of year but CCJ is looking super fit and sharp, he is so clean with his hands in traffic and showed that at training yesterday in a frenzied in tight 5 on 5 handball drill. The knock on CCJ coming into the draft was supposedly below average agility, (agility and speed are two different things), and kicking. After season 1 the jury is still out for me on the agility, (I think a fellow Pre-Ender said he reminded him of Adam Pattison, let's hope not ;D) , his kicking action looks awkward but adequate for a ruckman and seems to find the sticks as a forward.
Anyway CCJ had a few injuries in his 2017 draft year which didn't help, and at this time last year was not due to train till after Christmas. Then he was placed on a specialized program of less games and more development type training, (whether that be strength or running?), to fast track him for the physical requirements of AFL, nothing was expected of him in 2018 all eyes were on 2019.
Appears to be off to a flying pre-season and moving really well, (hopefully not a case of my eyes deceiving me
Thats great to hear mate , Watched him in a couple of games last year and with limited viewing he looked the goods
this kid is determined and a hard worker as well as being a good leader as a junior
I still think he will play reserves in 2019 and will only ruck limited time predominantly playing foward, As another poster mentioned i hope he has grown abit more or still has some growth left in him and gets to 203/204cm
The following is from Leppa for people who may have missed it
Coaches' Corner: Coleman-Jones
Assistant Coach, Justin Leppitsch, speaks to Matthew Richardson about young, versatile tall, Callum Coleman-Jones.
Richmond assistant coach Justin Leppitsch provides ‘Roar Vision’ with an insight into the impressive development of talented, young Tiger ‘tall’ Callum Coleman-Jones throughout his first year in the AFL system.
Initial thoughts on him
“Gee, he’s a big boy . . . 200cm. Not just that, he’s got some shoulders on him as well. Hits the bag nice and hard as well . . . I think he’s going to be a good, long-term prospect for us.”
Leadership traits
“He understands the game plan really well. You can see he’s going to be a potential future leader for us.”
Forward craft
“He’s probably the most improved player on our list from where he’s come from. I remember his first training session as a forward – I don’t think he even touched the ball. Now his body positioning, ability to hold out opposition and mark the ball, is excellent. And his finishing . . . he was kicking most of his set shots out on the full, but now he’s got a really good routine and he’s very diligent. So he’s had a great growth of improvement in just a short space of time."
Modified program
“He’s been on a bit of a modified program this year, which we think has really helped him. We’ve given him a game off every three weeks, just to make sure he stays on top of things. And then he can get an extra bit of weights in and conditioning and stuff like that.”
His endurance and speed
“Endurance, really good. Speed, moderate for a big guy. Where he ends up, whether it be ruck or key forward, or a combination of both, you tend to find out in their third/fourth years. But we’re really excited by his progress.”
Ruck craft
“As I said, he hits the bag really hard, and takes the ball, generally, at its highest point. It’s hard for him at times coming up against guys in the VFL like Braydon Preuss (North Melbourne) . . . seasoned campaigners that are massive and bigger versions than what he is now. So we’ve tried not to over-expose him in the ruck. But when he has gone in there, he’s done some good work.”
Potential role at senior level
“I’ve got a feeling he could, potentially, be an A-grade-type ruckman and maybe a B-grade forward. And that’s a pretty good effort to be that . . . His around-the-ground work is such a strength of his.”
Great to hear about CCJ. Despite losing some depth I can’t recall our club having so much young talent coming through for a long time.
CCJ, Balta, Garthwaite, Bolton, Naish plus guys like Markov, Baker, Moore and Menadue all have legitimate claims to playing AFL next year. Then we have the 2017 draft crop.
Depth is really important. It’s no coincidence that our rise at the senior level has been accompanied by a rise at vfl level
CCJ, Balta, Garthwaite, Bolton, Naish plus guys like Markov, Baker, Moore and Menadue all have legitimate claims to playing AFL next year. Then we have the 2017 draft crop.
Depth is really important. It’s no coincidence that our rise at the senior level has been accompanied by a rise at vfl level
tigerman said:
Good work Turk, hadn't seen it either. Yep my only concern was with his agility/speed, (which Leppa indicated as moderate for a ruckman), does that mean below average as a forward?
Anyway the reason I singled out CCJ from training on Monday was there seemed to be a marked improvement in his mobility? providing of course that my Rose colored glasses where not giving that false illusion.
caesar said:
I dont believe it means below average as a foward but probably not to the level of being an elite foward, Also believe we have purposely gone about his development differently to others like Chol,Soldo and Ruckman of the past and looking for him to gain weight,Strength & Agility whils not having him bashed up at such a young age.
Contrary to what many think Callum Coleman-Jones was considered to be the best Ruckman in last years draft and was available at #20 due to missing games through injury
Bullus was not a massive fan from memory and wanted sam taylor which i also like but not unhappy with the CCJ/Balta combo of 2017
Im wishing /Hoping/Praying he ends up like a Grundy type but think he may not be as agile or have the ground level game as grundy but thinking a Ruck similar to Ben McEvoy type at the least.
Any Chance you could get your 3 mtr measuring tape and see if he has grown 3-4 cm next time your at the club mate
turk-d-tiger said:
That would be of interest, how often does the club update their website as to height and weight of players? They must do it because Mabs was drafted at 198cm and 81kg. Now showing 200cm and 92kg, (although I reckon he is more than 92kg now).
caesar said:The eyes can deceive you at this time of year but CCJ is looking super fit and sharp, he is so clean with his hands in traffic and showed that at training yesterday in a frenzied in tight 5 on 5 handball drill. Appears to be off to a flying pre-season and moving really well, (hopefully not a case of my eyes deceiving me
Thanks for such a comprehensive report on CCJ. Those who are unable to get to training for various reasons (like me) find these comments absolutely invaluable in finding out where are youngsters are at.
Tanks again to all who do these reports
