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Bye Bye Jack Higgins!
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It's ceiling. Gyps and I were discussing this a couple of weeks ago. What you see now is basically what he will be, plus fitness, strength and experience.
3.1 is slow for a small, Bully, but he compensates by reading the game so well. He can't kick over a jam tin but he plays within his limitations.
We hope our first rounders are Cotchins and Martins, but I think we've got another Lablett. Not bad.
3.1 is slow for a small, Bully, but he compensates by reading the game so well. He can't kick over a jam tin but he plays within his limitations.
We hope our first rounders are Cotchins and Martins, but I think we've got another Lablett. Not bad.
spook said:
He’s better than just a LAblett. ( no offence to LAblett who has become a mighty fine team player ) Rises to the occasion when big games present and has football IQ off the charts. Crazy to think what you see is what you get. Check out his positioning and how he reads the drop before seasoned players. And has already outmarked a couple overhead. No player ( other than Dean Polo ) offers up the same level after 3 preseasons under their belt. More contests, more disposals and goals. More strength. More disposals and goals. More coaching. More disposals and goals.
TigerForce said:
His two set shots (with a drop punt routine) have been from about 30m out, but he put in the same effort a regular player would if they had a shot from 55m.
Could be an illusion, and he just had two unlucky kicks, but it definitely looks to me like he struggles with distance.
Tigertool said:
Set shot kicking definitely not his forte, in part because he doesn't get the height, his kicking action is best at low trajectory. Field kicking is fine & 50 metres is his range but I wouldn't necessarily say this is a weapon. Higgins actually went the way of Lewis Taylor in the early stages of TAC 2017, plenty of low impact sideways chips. Towards the end of the year he became more direct, I think as time passes he will learn how to get the best out of his ability.
I think comparison to LAblett as far as his kicking penetration goes is probably spot on. Watching the TAC videos previously I saw maybe 3 or 4 shots at goal from 45 out which just made the distance. I don't see him kicking too many from 50 out. However I think his spacial awareness is superior to LAblett and he is much cleaner with his hands in tight. I'm expecting him to become at least the equal of LAblett which is no knock at all, he has become a superb player for the Tigers, and full credit from how far back he's come from.
Am I reading it right, some folks are saying he's reached his limit. The young fella's played 3 games for goodness sake.
I for one believe he's got quite a bit of upside & plenty of development in him yet.
Iirc a bloke named Dermie said the same thing about Dusty a few years back, (not that I think the Higlet will reach Dustys level)
Please give the bloke time to develop
I for one believe he's got quite a bit of upside & plenty of development in him yet.
Iirc a bloke named Dermie said the same thing about Dusty a few years back, (not that I think the Higlet will reach Dustys level)
Please give the bloke time to develop
If he's snagging goals from anywhere inside 10-20-30-40 metres I will be happy.
Reckon he's got some upside, particularly as he matures and settles into "the system".
Reckon he's got some upside, particularly as he matures and settles into "the system".
spook said:
The pleasing thing is he’s having an impact already, Spook. And as we discussed, we desperately needed him to. The thing that Higgins has always had is outstanding football values. That and smarts. Smarts offset the lack of pace at junior level. Combined with values you’ve got yourself a prolific ball winner. Higgins proved himself a deadset genius in the under 18s and got the medals to prove it. He has alaraming physical red flags, but despite this, he has a way of winning even the greatest skeptic over. I think I posted on the junior footballers board that I couldn’t help but fall in love by the end of every game I had seen him play. Smarts. Values.
If you aren’t brisk, where do smarts and values get you? Riewoldt nailed Dangerfield in the qualifying final for a holding the ball call and got a hold of Laird in the GF for another free kick. Riewoldt nailed these blokes on smarts and values; he’s always a few steps ahead of elites and a mile in front of the commoners. It’s the reason he’s been able to distinguish himself despite being dangerously undersized to play number one forward. Higgins hasn’t proven himself smarter (as fast) as the elites yet. If he can, he’ll forge a long career. But there is evidence he can expose the commoners, albeit while batting at 22 in a premiership side that is currently head and shoulders above the rest.
On the weekend, Higgins nailed Jack Crisp deep inside our forward 50 to force a stoppage. It would’ve been a red hot holding the ball call but he could’ve been rewarded. Crisp isn’t quick, but Higgins got a hold of him. Against the Demons on Anzac Eve, Higgins kicked our first goal and deadset lapped Josh Wagner to the fall of the ball for an impressive crumb & finish. Another of his goals was kicked when Wagner thought it was a good idea to leave him loose for an i50, fifteen metres out from goal. Wagner is terminally slow and was dropped for their win against Essendon.
I’m looking to see more proof at AFL level that Higgins could become Lablett and finish 3rd in a best and fairest in a premiership year. But Lablett is a good benchmark for Higgins and if he gets to that level it’s a huge win. It was very shrewd business to take the gun slider at pick 18. Higgins was it and even if there isn’t much physical improvement left in him, he has the smarts and values to make a fine AFL player.
Higgins looks slow atm due to not being used to the pace of AFL as yet, Give him 2 years and this will change
He has a good football brain and will develop this part of his game quickly and play within his physical limitations
I dont believe he is all that slower than Caleb Daniel or Lewis taylor , Would love to see their combine 20mtr times compared
Im sure he would be faster than Lloyd
He has a good football brain and will develop this part of his game quickly and play within his physical limitations
I dont believe he is all that slower than Caleb Daniel or Lewis taylor , Would love to see their combine 20mtr times compared
Im sure he would be faster than Lloyd
thegdog said:
Correct, similar to Sam Mitchell, Joel Selwood, Matt Priddis, Marc Murphy etc. Won't be a huge issue once he joins the rotations.
bullus_hit said:
It's not a huge issue, but it's by no means a small one either. If you're small and can't kick, you have to be elite in all other aspects.
tigersnake said:
Need to realise he's a midfielder, won't be relied upon for too much set shot kicking once his role changes. On the run he can kick 50m, just doesn't get the elevation from the set shots.
