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Bye Bye Jack Higgins!

turk-d-tiger said:
He is not an elite kick, He isnt terrible but i wouldnt say any better than Prestia imo

Didn't say he was elite, but from what I've been told he is a good kick. I find it hard to believe he isn't a better kick than Prestia, but we'll see I guess. I haven't seen him live like you have though.
 
turk-d-tiger said:
I wouldn't call Higgins tidier by foot, His kicking is questionable at times and wouldn't really put it any better than Prestia from what i have seen

But also believe he has a very good chance of being a midfielder rather than just pigeon holed into a small foward role and too much has been made about his height 179cm he is only 1cm shorter than Sam Mitchell and Jack Graham

Technically fine but is prone to chipping the ball sideways, similar problem to Lewis Taylor under Leppa (although under Fagan this has improved out of sight). Towards the end of the year Higgins was going a lot more direct so it's a minor flaw in my opinion. Goal kicking can be off at times but for a guy who has so many shots on goal this is forgivable.
 
Have you seen Higgins' legs? Quadrisaurus. Looks like every day is leg day at the gym. No wonder he has some precision issues. He'll come good.
 
nafe brown said:
does anyone else see a lot of Zac Merritt in young Jack ? or is it just me ?

Merrett was very outside as a junior, he's one of the rare cases of an outside player turning into a well rounded mid (Kelly another). There's a few similarities with Higgins such as body shape & that low centre of gravity impact, both players rarely go to ground and both can fish tail their way out of trouble. I'd say Merrett is a better kick at this stage but Higgins has much more potency in front of goal, probably Zorko is the better yardstick, although Higgins doesn't have that blistering line-breaking ability.
 
bullus_hit said:
Technically fine but is prone to chipping the ball sideways, similar problem to Lewis Taylor under Leppa (although under Fagan this has improved out of sight). Towards the end of the year Higgins was going a lot more direct so it's a minor flaw in my opinion. Goal kicking can be off at times but for a guy who has so many shots on goal this is forgivable.

Hits his targets, doesnt stray too far beyond his limits with his kicking.

I know he was directed to be a bit more attacking with his disposals this year, probably took a few months to keep that mindset in the heat of a game.
 
D85 said:
Hits his targets, doesnt stray too far beyond his limits with his kicking.

I know he was directed to be a bit more attacking with his disposals this year, probably took a few months to keep that mindset in the heat of a game.

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Tigertool said:
Didn't say he was elite, but from what I've been told he is a good kick. I find it hard to believe he isn't a better kick than Prestia, but we'll see I guess. I haven't seen him live like you have though.

His kicking is really good, picks the right option. But is the opposite of Naish, if he can’t make the right kick he plays it very sideways. Just keep the ball moving. You want Jack Higgins kicking it inside 50. Will do damage. I’d definitely have him ahead of Prestia.
 
SCOOP said:
His kicking is really good, picks the right option. But is the opposite of Naish, if he can’t make the right kick he plays it very sideways. Just keep the ball moving. You want Jack Higgins kicking it inside 50. Will do damage. I’d definitely have him ahead of Prestia.

Cheers SCOOPLA, that's similar to what I was told. He lacks distance on his kicks, and must be pretty conscious about it, so tends to play it safe. Was a bit surprised to hear what Turk said.
 
bullus_hit said:
Merrett was very outside as a junior, he's one of the rare cases of an outside player turning into a well rounded mid (Kelly another). There's a few similarities with Higgins such as body shape & that low centre of gravity impact, both players rarely go to ground and both can fish tail their way out of trouble. I'd say Merrett is a better kick at this stage but Higgins has much more potency in front of goal, probably Zorko is the better yardstick, although Higgins doesn't have that blistering line-breaking ability.
He more a Rockliff or Zorko type player?
I mention Rocky as his SC ave is basically the same. Very happy either way.
 
SCOOP said:
His kicking is really good, picks the right option. But is the opposite of Naish, if he can’t make the right kick he plays it very sideways. Just keep the ball moving. You want Jack Higgins kicking it inside 50. Will do damage. I’d definitely have him ahead of Prestia.
Higgins ahead of Prestia in terms of kicking inside 50, or picked ahead of Prestia in the 22?
Prestia's lightning handballs out of packs to a team mate were very important to our success this year and they are easily missed even watching the replays. Could both fit into our team if everyone is available?
 
Lets go with 22 smalls next year..) wouldn't hurt , other teams would be bamboozled...
 
tigermike said:
Higgins ahead of Prestia in terms of kicking inside 50, or picked ahead of Prestia in the 22?
Prestia's lightning handballs out of packs to a team mate were very important to our success this year and they are easily missed even watching the replays. Could both fit into our team if everyone is available?

Purely based on kicking. Prestia’s role is crucial. Both could easily play in the same side. Higgins won’t have the running capacity to be a full time midfielder for two to three years. That’s normal.
 
Jonesracing82 said:
He more a Rockliff or Zorko type player?
I mention Rocky as his SC ave is basically the same. Very happy either way.

Rocky stronger overhead and can play the role of a leading forward. Higgins is more of a pesky opportunist who can turn routine crumbing into scoring opportunities, very Zorko-like on that front. If the unofficial sprint time is to be believed pace may well be strength, I haven't seen him rip a game apart with metres gained but he's incredibly busy, always manages to get to the contest. As a best case scenario I think he can become another Marc Murphy who ran a 3 second flat 20 metres at the combine. Seems crazy to think we landed a bloke at 17 who could emulate a former number 1 but statistically there's very little separating the two.
 
bullus_hit said:
Rocky stronger overhead and can play the role of a leading forward. Higgins is more of a pesky opportunist who can turn routine crumbing into scoring opportunities, very Zorko-like on that front. If the unofficial sprint time is to be believed pace may well be strength, I haven't seen him rip a game apart with metres gained but he's incredibly busy, always manages to get to the contest. As a best case scenario I think he can become another Marc Murphy who ran a 3 second flat 20 metres at the combine. Seems crazy to think we landed a bloke at 17 who could emulate a former number 1 but statistically there's very little separating the two.

Although of course I understand why we use 20m sprint times as important measurements for base speed, one also has to consider reaction time, power off the mark and the first 5 steps of accelaration when considering over all dynamics.
It was interesting to watch Menedues relatively slow start to the G.F sprint and how he wound out.
In Higgins, I think it's important to consider his power burst and agility over a pure straight line 20m result. Combined with his well noted football I.Q I see him as a Paul Medhurst type player who at his peak, with Collingwood, was very hard to stop
 
Blind Turn said:
Although of course I understand why we use 20m sprint times as important measurements for base speed, one also has to consider reaction time, power off the mark and the first 5 steps of accelaration when considering over all dynamics.
It was interesting to watch Menedues relatively slow start to the G.F sprint and how he wound out.
In Higgins, I think it's important to consider his power burst and agility over a pure straight line 20m result. Combined with his well noted football I.Q I see him as a Paul Medhurst type player who at his peak, with Collingwood, was very hard to stop

I know its not the point you wanted to make but going back to Menadue in the sprint, He took it very easy both at the start and the finish
Im sure if he was going 100% he would have had another 2-3 mtrs on the field - The Dew is lightening quick
 
SkillzThatKillz said:
Finished 3rd behind Brando and Lambert in our recent time trial.

That’s a huge effort. We have some excellent gut runners like Houli, Kam and Menadue who would be hard to beat.

Looks like he has the fitness to also play midfield.
 
turk-d-tiger said:
I know its not the point you wanted to make but going back to Menadue in the sprint, He took it very easy both at the start and the finish
Im sure if he was going 100% he would have had another 2-3 mtrs on the field - The Dew is lightening quick

Played with the field in that race.