Brett Deledio (merged)

[GoodOne]

Re: Brett Deledio

my word he has, it makes me laugh with some questioning his output earlier on in first half of the season i have him playing more better games than not but yeah this 2nd half as thompson said on the footy show on sunday he's been sensational and james brayshaw says he's been fantastic...

I agree totally. Deledio has become at times a bit of a whipping boy. The poor guy has been tagged heavily at times and as for all 22 year olds it takes time to handle these sort of tactics. Deledio might have said that he has been lazy at times, and that is probably correct, but his output would have still been many times better than other players in the team. Its all a learning process. Deledio is coming to realise what is required to become elite and he has the skill and desire to achieve his goals. Love him at Richmond. Overall he has been fantastic since arriving at Tigerland.

 

[AstuteTiger]

Re: Brett Deledio

Why ? Lids himself said he was playing very lazy and it was only when he was threatened with a drop to the 2s did he start to play with more desire.

Or are you saying Lids doesn't know what he's talking about ?

sheez baloo u come across gullable, players well most of them are humble and talk themselves down more than up...What did u want lids to do open up a can of worms in the media and say thats crap rawlings doesnt know what he is talking about....

I found that laughable that rawlings said that, how about dropping the same players who make the same errors week in week out, like i said whether its pendlebury, or gibbs or del santo when ur winning everything is fine, ok baloo answer this if we were 10 wins and 1 loss u reckon that wouldve been said to lids? Are u also saying that richo doesnt know his sh!t? im with richo thought he was unfairly marked, but when ur losing that happens....

Like i said he had played more better games than not in the 1st half of the year,

Good games: Geelong, North, Swans, Brisbane, Port, Ess? and Freo

Average games: Carl, bulldogs and Melb...his ess game was so so perhaps better than average but nothing over the top

Look he's been sensational in his 2nd half of the year and 1st half good in that he played more better games than not but the not so good were average.

 

[AstuteTiger]

Re: Brett Deledio

Tell me you are kidding Astute? You must think Lid's and Rawlings are both fools.

nope read my above post, ive played footy long enough to know how to toe the party line in a team environment, rawlings ahh definitely a fool...
So Oldie are u saying richo and others are fools?

 

[TigerForce]

Re: Brett Deledio

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At Terry Wallace's request......

 

[WesternTiger]

Re: Brett Deledio

At Terry Wallace's request......

:hihi

 

[johnson2richo2003]

Re: Brett Deledio

Last week against the Pies when Lids was running through the centre and on the 3rd bounce he stuffed it up.I was at the game and i watched what he,d do next.Now one would think he,d turn around and make an effort to make up for his mistake.Nope not Lids.He turned around and just jogged back towards our defence.The irony was his opponent[beams] kicked the goal.Lids has along way to go attitude wise.Having said that its not entirely his fault.Did Rawlings take him off for no 2nd effort? Nope.

 

[GoodOne]

Re: Brett Deledio

Last week against the Pies when Lids was running through the centre and on the 3rd bounce he stuffed it up.I was at the game and i watched what he,d do next.Now one would think he,d turn around and make an effort to make up for his mistake.Nope not Lids.He turned around and just jogged back towards our defence.The irony was his opponent[beams] kicked the goal.Lids has along way to go attitude wise.Having said that its not entirely his fault.Did Rawlings take him off for no 2nd effort? Nope.

That was a bad mistake but the ball was then turned over, not alot more Deledio could have done. I don't see any irony that his direct opponent kicked the goal since Deledio was making the play and his opponent was nowhere to be seen. If Deledio hadnt have stuffed up the bounce, then it would have potentially been a shot at goal for the Tigers instead. How would have the Beams looked then?

 

[Tigers of Old]

Re: Brett Deledio

nope read my above post, ive played footy long enough to know how to toe the party line in a team environment, rawlings ahh definitely a fool...

Didn't realised you played the game. Must make you an expert on matters of the RFC then. :

You are basically saying you know more than the coach or the player and many of the posters here.

For goodness sakes. Get off your high horse.

 

[AstuteTiger]

Re: Brett Deledio

Last week against the Pies when Lids was running through the centre and on the 3rd bounce he stuffed it up.I was at the game and i watched what he,d do next.Now one would think he,d turn around and make an effort to make up for his mistake.Nope not Lids.He turned around and just jogged back towards our defence.The irony was his opponent[beams] kicked the goal.Lids has along way to go attitude wise.Having said that its not entirely his fault.Did Rawlings take him off for no 2nd effort? Nope.

captain u want to pick the arse out of every player that can be done quite easily i can pic the arse of fevola, franklin, riewoldt etc and say sheez they have a long way to go in this area and that area, no body is perfect, fev rarely runs a meter after his man id have him in a heart beat...

I was there too with some pies mates and they saw it differently, where the hell were ur richmond players in support of lids when he was running along the wing, as soon as the ball went trickling away beams took it away have u ever played footy, the ball went bouncing away and it favoured beams he was off and lids was wrong footed....Was our best that day on a dirty day and u still trying to find fault, *smile* this guy cant win....

 

[Tiger_4_Life]

Re: Brett Deledio

whats his contract situation at the moment?

 

[AstuteTiger]

Re: Brett Deledio

Didn't realised you played the game. Must make you an expert on matters of the RFC then. :

You are basically saying you know more than the coach or the player and many of the posters here.

For goodness sakes. Get off your high horse.

how hard is it for u to read my post and understand it, now i know why claw has a hard time explaining things to you...

Do u not think players dont toe the party line, ok lets say his output in the 1st half wasnt as like this 2nd half of the year, i have him playing more better games than not so does that make him lazy...

I didnt say i know more than the coach dont put words in my mouth, its funny how u pick bits and pieces from my post, i also said I found that laughable that rawlings said that, didnt say he didnt say that just found it laughable and continued by saying how about dropping the same players who make the same errors week in week out....i mean is this so hard for u to undestand, seems like it...

So ur saying richo doesnt know his *smile* cause richo himself said he's been unfairly marked but hey u know more than richo who is in the inner sanctum and id believe richo's comments ahead of anyone elses here and jade for that matter on lids overall out put...

Well if he wins the B&F let me tell you they're a few posters who i will let know..

And finally why should i get off my horse horse cause i dont agree with you, because i have my own thoughts on the matter, spin out oldie ur out of control with that comment.

 

[johnson2richo2003]

Re: Brett Deledio

captain u want to pick the bottom out of every player that can be done quite easily i can pic the bottom of fevola, franklin, riewoldt etc and say sheez they have a long way to go in this area and that area, no body is perfect, fev rarely runs a meter after his man id have him in a heart beat...

I was there too with some pies mates and they saw it differently, where the hell were ur richmond players in support of lids when he was running along the wing, as soon as the ball went trickling away beams took it away have u ever played footy, the ball went bouncing away and it favoured beams he was off and lids was wrong footed....Was our best that day on a dirty day and u still trying to find fault, *smile* this guy cant win....

Yes i have played football.At least id make an effort to make up for my Mistake.Like i said its an attitude thing with Lids and most of our team a matter of fact.And to say he was our best that day,Big deal it doesn't excuse him from the above criticism.

 

[AstuteTiger]

Re: Brett Deledio

Yes i have played football.At least id make an effort to make up for my Mistake.Like i said its an attitude thing with Lids and most of our team a matter of fact.And to say he was our best that day,Big deal it doesn't excuse him from the above criticism.

fair enough captain, but as i said i and others at the game who were pies fans saw it differtently, the ball trickled away in favour of beams and he subsequently had the running of the ball and took off...

On the team sure thats the legacy of wallet, 1%, tackles, blocking and sheparding were non-exsistent in his coaching foray...

 

[Tigers of Old]

Re: Brett Deledio

Do u not think players dont toe the party line, ok lets say his output in the 1st half wasnt as like this 2nd half of the year, i have him playing more better games than not so does that make him lazy....

Of course players toe the party line but please tell me what benefit there is to Deledio stating that he's been 'slack'?

Maybe you should read this article again Astute. It's a little more than toeing the party line..

I was slack: Brett Deledio
Jon Ralph | July 31, 2009 12:00am

RICHMOND midfielder Brett Deledio says the threat of banishment to the VFL and a brutal appraisal from his teammates were the shock tactics that may have turned around his career. Caretaker coach Jade Rawlings told the 2004 No. 1 draft pick four weeks ago he was on the verge of being dumped because of his total lack of accountability.

Reigning best-and-fairest winner Deledio embraced the challenge and in the past month has played some of the best football of his career, with his contested possessions skyrocketing.

Deledio, 22, told the Herald Sun yesterday the honesty session with Rawlings and the club's leadership group was the jolt he needed.

"I had weaknesses that needed addressing and if I didn't address them I would have been representing Coburg (in the VFL)," he said.

"I just wasn't being accountable.

"Jade said if I wasn't prepared to do it, I would be out of the side, and I very nearly was.

"I guess it was the kick up the bottom I needed. (Footy) has come pretty easy, and I hadn't really been told off about that sort of thing, or hadn't been threatened with representing Coburg, not that playing there would be a bad thing, by the way.

"But it really would have dinted the pride. It was the best thing for me.

"I am not saying I have got it nailed. I have got plenty of things to work on, but for Jade to be honest, and the leadership group to be honest with me, was fantastic."

http://www.puntroadend.com/yabbse/index.php?topic=37659.msg1000519#msg1000519

So there you go Astute. The leadership group also told Brett some home truths about his output but go ahead, you know better because you played the game.

No one here has every questioned Deledio's talent. He has more of it in in little finger than most in the team but no one is excused from putting in the hard yards and Lid's was guilty of it earlier in the year and has been on other occassions until the mid season wake up call.

I didnt say i know more than the coach dont put words in my mouth, its funny how u pick bits and pieces from my post, i also said I found that laughable that rawlings said that, didnt say he didnt say that just found it laughable and continued by saying how about dropping the same players who make the same errors week in week out....i mean is this so hard for u to undestand, seems like it...

Rawlings has dropped a heap of players since he took over. McMahon's continued selection is the one I have most issue with but they're likely trying to pump up his value. I'm sure he'd like to drop a whole heap more but we'd be lucky to field 22 players given the lack of depth. Besides this isn't just about Rawling's as Lid's team mates honesty session seems to have unearthed similar feelings.

So ur saying richo doesnt know his sh!t cause richo himself said he's been unfairly marked but hey u know more than richo who is in the inner sanctum and id believe richo's comments ahead of anyone elses here and jade for that matter on lids overall out put...

Richardson isn't in the leadership group and nor is he the best advocate for those that work hard off the football(tackling, 1%s accountability etc.)

Well if he wins the B&F let me tell you they're a few posters who i will let know..

Big deal if he wins it. Not much competition anyway. Besides which most of his best form has come after the mid season kick in the pants. Highly doubtful he was leading the race before that.

And finally why should i get off my horse horse cause i dont agree with you, because i have my own thoughts on the matter

So do most but it's you who is constantly mocking the thoughts of others. Rather ironic really. :blah

 

[AstuteTiger]

Re: Brett Deledio

Besides this isn't just about Rawling's as Lid's team mates honesty session seems to have unearthed similar feelings.

Richardson isn't in the leadership group and nor is he the best advocate for those that work hard off the football(tackling, 1%s accountability etc.)

Big deal if he wins it. Not much competition anyway. Besides which most of his best form has come after the mid season kick in the pants. Highly doubtful he was leading the race before that.

So do most but it's you who is constantly mocking the thoughts of others. Rather ironic really. :blah

big deal if he wins are u for real, well i didnt say he was leading it again putting words in my mouth, id have him about 3rd or 4th, definitely top 5...

Another thing, ok lids says he's been somewhat slack in an honesty session luv to hear all the thoughts on other players, im sure that would open up a can of worms...

so now ur saying cause richo isnt in the leadership group that means he doesnt know or have the rigth to form an opinion on lids output, funny statement.

No, its not mocking dont make up *smile*, its debating thats why we're on here u know its a forum sheez this is harder than i thought with you and ive never said to any poster get off your high horse, where do u get off saying that to me...You wanna say hey astute i think ur wrong or nah mate thats incorrect IMO fair enough ill debate u back with my thoughts and info etc but dont u for my second tell me that i should get off my high horse or say that i mock people i have running debates and sometimes it can get heated thats the nature of the beast and u know what at least i dont sit on the fence, sure i might and not only me for that matter have some real heated debates but its a forum mate and if u cant handle it oldie get out of the kitchen, anyway lets leave it at that i think ive made my point on the matter and so have you....

Your welcome to reply but i see no point in going any further....

 

[AstuteTiger]

Re: Brett Deledio

Didn't realised you played the game. Must make you an expert on matters of the RFC then. :

For goodness sakes. Get off your high horse.

and another thing how ironic that u said that im mocking people, im happy to post here (below) what i said and let anyone on this site see what ur reponse was back to me (above post)...We all have opinions strong opinions at that, but to say.....Didn't realised you played the game. Must make you an expert on matters of the RFC then and For goodness sakes. Get off your high horse.

Not sure what prompted u to say that and thats the reason why i fired back, i dont think im better than you or anyone else and i take offence to that cause that was what u were implying with that comment, i have strong opinions so do many others but dont u go telling me or anyone else for that matter to get off ur high horse...ur welcome to go through my posts on this as i said below...and u hit back with that post above, anyway like i said in my above post lets leave it at that....

my post below on page 26 "bottom of page" and oldies response in the above quote;

nope read my above post, ive played footy long enough to know how to toe the party line in a team environment, rawlings ahh definitely a fool...
So Oldie are u saying richo and others are fools?

 

[GoodOne]

Re: Brett Deledio

Yes i have played football.At least id make an effort to make up for my Mistake.Like i said its an attitude thing with Lids and most of our team a matter of fact.And to say he was our best that day,Big deal it doesn't excuse him from the above criticism.

This is just a load of rubbish. You'd know just as little as the next person not intimately involved at the Richmond FC what Deledio's attitude is like.

 

[jb03]

Re: Brett Deledio

Keep it up Astute. You are slaying them. the Deledio naysayers are those that are talking nonsense.

Deledio should be our highest paid player because he is our best.

Don't worry, flipflop tooheys will come around and Skipper has disliked Deledio from the start for some reason (perhaps he was a back pocket battler who had to watch the ball sail over his head time after time from those that were highly skilled).

 

[Tigers of Old]

Re: Brett Deledio

Keep it up Astute. You are slaying them. the Deledio naysayers are those that are talking nonsense.

Aah now I know I am making sense.

 

[Baloo]

Re: Brett Deledio

sheez baloo u come across gullable

Yeah Astute, I'm the gullable (sic) one here who can't see the real truth thats out there.

Thank god for people like you to show us poor fools the way. I'm not sure what the club would be do without you.