Brett Deledio (merged)

[zippadeee]

Do you think the lids situation would help keep some of our current players at the club for unders? Due to him wanting to leave for success yet it didnt go to plan for him. Lids has done us a massive favour unknowingly with his decision.

We don’t need to use Deledio’s situation.
Anyone that we will chase from this day onwards should be played what Tom Lynch said to the Jurno about us.
“It’s a privilege to play for this club, they made we welcome from the first day I arrived and I feel like I’m at home”

 

[artball]

I know I am out on my own pretty much on this, but I'm not crying for Deledio in relation to him leaving Richmond and missing out on being part of two Richmond flags.

yr not on yr own Bullarto. when i saw how Deledio was after the siren - 'a tragic figure' - there was was no sympathy. not only did he choose to leave, he was a bit of a prick towards the club and its people.

 

[ToraToraTora]

As far as his personal life goes, nothing but sympathy. As far as his football life goes, suck it up champ and produce a couple of boys for us.

 

[Tenacious]

yr not on yr own Bullarto. when i saw how Deledio was after the siren - 'a tragic figure' - there was was no sympathy. not only did he choose to leave, he was a bit of a prick towards the club and its people.

Fair comment
It’s not a question of whether or not Lids is deserving of sympathy
Mature people make decisions and sometimes shyte happens

 

[Tenacious Tiges]

not only did he choose to leave, he was a bit of a prick towards the club and its people.

In what way AB?
I understand he was not very happy with Cotch getting the captaincy and found it hard to accept. Perhaps he was a destabilising influence at the club at the end and his leaving helped clear the air for a new chapter, however I have to admit I have empathy for Lids. We all make decisions and sometimes act in not the best manner. He’s unfortunately jumped ship at the wrong time. To see a crestfallen man is not a good sight. We all need a hand of friendship at times. Rise above a situation and try and be a better person.

 

[artball]

In what way AB?
To see a crestfallen man is not a good sight.

Seeing him the way he was, was not a pleasure for me but i didn't feel sorry for him. We live by our choices, and thanks be that we have the freedom to choose. As you say, he made his choices, and consciousness is a series of decisions...
We know the ripple effect of him getting dark over the captaincy spread through the club, mostly via Lids not being able to pull his head in. He thought he was owed. As you say he became a "destabilising influence", perhaps i could have used that term instead of 'prick'. As soon as Geelong had an interest his head was turned, but maybe it already was because his behaviour was reflecting a lack of professionalism. Someone at the club described him leaving as "the logical conclusion", and that seems about right.

 

[Raoul Juke]

Lids in all senses, gave up on the club and success. The 2016 off season reeked of a rebuild & at the time adding Prestia, Nank & Caddy kinda had some of us wondering if we were trying to make a decent team good enough to scrape into the 8 - with not much more upside to that. When the cats showed some love LIDS way, he started backing his bags.

If the club needed any sign that Cotchin was the right man to lead the club forward - that moment was enough to provide the proof. It comes across as Lids wanted the role for personal recognition - he didnt want the role to lead this team to a Premiership. If he beieved the club would win one - then why have the interest in Geelong? He gave up & the fact he didnt have the self awareness to see this speaks a bit about how deep his lack of belief in the club was. I don't think anyone can blame him - h has literally lived through perhaps our darkest era -i think we all had strong doubt - but, we are not asking to be Captain. Even after 2017 i recall his emotion being "I'm happy for the team, bu wow - what about me?" , which is fair from a player, but not even close to a response from a man who claimed to be our ultimate leader.

Lids will go down in history as the last of the "Bad News Tigers". His story is tragic & typifies that which has followed him of richmond players before him. Matthew Knights, Tony Free, Richo, Justin Charles, Nathan Brown, Cogs - so many players which we thought were going to lead us to a new era - but ultimately due to coaching changes, injuries or just internal meltdowns - their afl career was tragic. Lids served us well, but history wont be that fond of his story. He is the guy who left just before the strongest Dynasty in the past 50 years of AFL formed. Not only did he just leave, but he left due to the fact the club picked Trent Cotchin, our greatest captain since Jack Dyer, to be captain over him & he didn't see the pending success about to burst free. There is no way to spin that story.

Sometimes you put your balls on the line and they get squished like grapes. Brett is looking like a guy who has squished Grapes for testicles right now.

I hope Brett can take some time away from the game, and when he is ready - get in his car, drive to Punt Road Oval & ask if there there is anything he can do to help/be involved in the club again. Sure he is down at the moment - but i have no doubt this club would embrace him back with such open arms once he did. The real success this club has had is not the Premierships from what i can see - its the culture that they all love and care for each other, genuinely. I cannot recall another sports team that is so motivated by selflessness, love, health & human connectivity.What an exceptional club we have become

 

[jb03]

Who would have thought Lids would become such a polarising player.

No doubt the club were keen to move him on at the end of 2016 so not all his doing.

 

[Sintiger]

Whether he deserves it or not is completely irrelevant to me. I have sympathy because people make decisions and sometimes those decisions don’t work out, so I am sympathetic because he is human and must feel crap about it.

Besides that he is a 243 game Richmond player and dual JD medallist and is someone who I loved watching so he’ll always be a tiger to me

 

[TT33]

We all make decisions that can have either a positive or negative result in our lives. We make those decisions based on the "data" & feelings that are relevant at that time. Sometimes they turn out remarkably good, other times they don't. We have to live with the results of those decisions. The easiest thing to do is to wallow in the mire of self pity.
The best thing to do is say to yourself, I can't change my decision. I'll live with it, learn from it & get on with my life.

I hope Lids takes that road.

 

[Harry]

Did he go into our change rooms to congratulate the players?

 

[WesternTiger]

Did he go into our change rooms to congratulate the players?

Yes from what has been reported

 

[Harry]

Yes from what has been reported

Good. Hoped so

 

[Tony Braxton-Hicks]

Lids in all senses, gave up on the club and success.

So did Lynch. So did Prestia.

Lids was drafted to the worst side since Fitzroy, had failed to win three elimination finals and was back at the bottom of the ladder with a coach barely surviving the sack and a board challenge as well. I don't blame him for leaving, particularly with his body starting to fail him. It turned out to be a win for the club too.

 

[Omarkum]

Lids was a ripper player...he stuck with us for over a decade...could have gone to a better club earlier. I remember seeing him at Punt road when first drafted and I thought he would bail at the first chance ..he didnt. Dont blame him that when he was nearing the end of the road he moved on. Will always be a highly respected Tiger for mine.

 

[Raoul Juke]

So did Lynch. So did Prestia.

Lids was drafted to the worst side since Fitzroy, had failed to win three elimination finals and was back at the bottom of the ladder with a coach barely surviving the sack and a board challenge as well. I don't blame him for leaving, particularly with his body starting to fail him. It turned out to be a win for the club too.

And i can assure you that if Gold Coast won a premiership without them - they would be signifigantly less interested in 'how they feel' than we are all here, right now. doing for Brett.


I don't blame him either. When he chose to leave i was disappointed to see our best player head to a "top team", it felt like Brad Ottens all over again.

 

[AngryAnt]

So did Lynch. So did Prestia.

Lids was drafted to the worst side since Fitzroy, had failed to win three elimination finals and was back at the bottom of the ladder with a coach barely surviving the sack and a board challenge as well. I don't blame him for leaving, particularly with his body starting to fail him. It turned out to be a win for the club too.

yeah. In any tough journey not everyone stays the course. I've given up jobs where I felt like it was getting too hard - actually I regretted leaving later, a feeling of unfinished business. But everyone has the right to make that choice, you have to live with the consequences. Sometimes you leave and it's the right decision - it still is *smile* even after you leave.

Don't wish him any ill will. He wasn't part of our successful future, so better for both parties he left. He might regret it but that's life.

 

[Puntrd64]

Lids was a ripper player...he stuck with us for over a decade...could have gone to a better club earlier. I remember seeing him at Punt road when first drafted and I thought he would bail at the first chance ..he didnt. Dont blame him that when he was nearing the end of the road he moved on. Will always be a highly respected Tiger for mine.

A Richmond legend no matter what. Was captain the night of Sam Lloyd’s after the siren goal and win against the Swans in 2016. Had some highs and lows and should always be welcome and respected at Tigerland.

 

[123cups]

If there’s one life lesson to learn from Richmond’s success, it’s to forgive and accept people for who they are.

The Richmond way is to accept Deledio for his shortcomings and wish him well.

He was the number one draft pick at the dawn of a long-term plan for success. The pin-up boy for our future success - like a Luke Hodge or a Nick Riewoldt.

Lids was groomed to become a potential future captain by Dimma for 3 years, but he ultimately selected a 22-year-old.

Given their respective ages, that was a meaningful call by the club and I can empathise with Lids for taking time to accept it.

In hindsight, Lids wasn’t the right person to model the behaviours and values that Dimma later instilled into what would become a dynasty culture of sustained success.

He learned under one of the greatest leadership regimes in modern AFL history, but at age 27 he was still telling the media “Richmond can’t win without me”.

That’s on Brett.

Overall, for me the negative feelings come from a sense of betrayal from the poster boy for our future success, the one who was supposed to sacrifice everything for the greater good but only became a great individual player.

The positive feelings come from the broader perspective exemplified by the RFC as a whole, and looking at what he did do to help us.

I’ve come to a conclusion on what I think about Deledio’s page in RFC history. To remain negative on him would be the supporter equivalent of doing a Deledio instead of doing a Cotchin, and I want to be more like Cotchin. So you’re welcome back at any time, Lids.

 

[Raoul Juke]

If there’s one life lesson to learn from Richmond’s success, it’s to forgive and accept people for who they are.

The Richmond way is to accept Deledio for his shortcomings and wish him well.

He was the number one draft pick at the dawn of a long-term plan for success. The pin-up boy for our future success - like a Luke Hodge or a Nick Riewoldt.

Lids was groomed to become a potential future captain by Dimma for 3 years, but he ultimately selected a 22-year-old.

Given their respective ages, that was a meaningful call by the club and I can empathise with Lids for taking time to accept it.

In hindsight, Lids wasn’t the right person to model the behaviours and values that Dimma later instilled into what would become a dynasty culture of sustained success.

He learned under one of the greatest leadership regimes in modern AFL history, but at age 27 he was still telling the media “Richmond can’t win without me”.

That’s on Brett.

Overall, for me the negative feelings come from a sense of betrayal from the poster boy for our future success, the one who was supposed to sacrifice everything for the greater good but only became a great individual player.

The positive feelings come from the broader perspective exemplified by the RFC as a whole, and looking at what he did do to help us.

I’ve come to a conclusion on what I think about Deledio’s page in RFC history. To remain negative on him would be the supporter equivalent of doing a Deledio instead of doing a Cotchin, and I want to be more like Cotchin. So you’re welcome back at any time, Lids.

to be honest i dont think there is any forgiving to be done on 'our' side - Lids decided to leave on his own accord. The only person who needs to forgive, is Brett Deledio to himself. I think we all agree there is no ill-will on the richmond side, be it in the stands or internally at the club. Dare say a few remember him 'giving up on them' - but thats footy, our club does not appear to be the petty type no more. Just like no one is blaming Brandon Ellis for leaving to get paid, no one blamed Lids for leaving - but he made that decision himself and what happened after that should be irrelevant.