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Brandon Ellis
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Re: Welcome Brandon Ellis
It is interesting how heavily 1st and 2nd year players feature in the list, suggest an emphasis on that professionalism in our recruiting
If I put on my rarely used darksider hat for a moment- the other side to this is how the hell are 3rd, 4th and 5th year vets being pantsed by kids who have been in the system 2 months?
Lennox Street said:
It is interesting how heavily 1st and 2nd year players feature in the list, suggest an emphasis on that professionalism in our recruiting
If I put on my rarely used darksider hat for a moment- the other side to this is how the hell are 3rd, 4th and 5th year vets being pantsed by kids who have been in the system 2 months?
Re: Welcome Brandon Ellis
What is Ellis paying for the Rising Star?
Might be worth a pineapple.
What is Ellis paying for the Rising Star?
Might be worth a pineapple.
Re: Welcome Brandon Ellis
I hear you, I know Lennox St posted an interesting analysis of Ellis 20 meter time a little while back.
With a few exceptions (Foley is one) most players rarely make big improvements in sprint speed over time, but they can make significant improvements in their fitness.
Posting a good, or improved, time on an endurance event is not a bad overall barometer of how hard a player is working.
mld said:
I hear you, I know Lennox St posted an interesting analysis of Ellis 20 meter time a little while back.
With a few exceptions (Foley is one) most players rarely make big improvements in sprint speed over time, but they can make significant improvements in their fitness.
Posting a good, or improved, time on an endurance event is not a bad overall barometer of how hard a player is working.
Re: Welcome Brandon Ellis
Just because a kid can run 3. something kliks in a big hurry doesn't mean he's a walk up start for game one. Nearly irrelevant how fast a player can run around a big paddock.Col.W.Kurtz said:
Re: Welcome Brandon Ellis
It's more common than you might think. Recent draftees tend to carry less muscle and therefore less weight than seasoned players. This is a huge advantage when it comes to long distance running but they get found out very quickly when there is body contact involved.
I wouldn't worry about tan time trials though. The best footballers rarely post the best times.
Col.W.Kurtz said:
It's more common than you might think. Recent draftees tend to carry less muscle and therefore less weight than seasoned players. This is a huge advantage when it comes to long distance running but they get found out very quickly when there is body contact involved.
I wouldn't worry about tan time trials though. The best footballers rarely post the best times.
Re: Welcome Brandon Ellis
Ellis is the same weight as Webberly and Edwards, he shouldn't be beating the.
On the positive side, not only did he come second, he was right behind Houli
TigerFurious said:
Ellis is the same weight as Webberly and Edwards, he shouldn't be beating the.
On the positive side, not only did he come second, he was right behind Houli
Re: Welcome Brandon Ellis
We need to put the run around the tan in context. Its more about improvement of endurance and PB's. Craig Mottram holds the tan record I think which is around 10 minutes , Houli ran 13.09 . Doesn't make Mottram a better footballer than our guys. ;D
Why? He may just be a naturally better runner over that distance.Col.W.Kurtz said:
We need to put the run around the tan in context. Its more about improvement of endurance and PB's. Craig Mottram holds the tan record I think which is around 10 minutes , Houli ran 13.09 . Doesn't make Mottram a better footballer than our guys. ;D
Re: Welcome Brandon Ellis
Nice to see the kids impacting on the track but like others i dont get excited by Tan time trials.
One only has to look at 3 of the most consistant Tan smashers over the past ten years to understand it really means nothing.
Matt White, Chris Hyde and Greg Tivendale .................... nuff said there really to put it in perspective.
Nice to see the kids impacting on the track but like others i dont get excited by Tan time trials.
One only has to look at 3 of the most consistant Tan smashers over the past ten years to understand it really means nothing.
Matt White, Chris Hyde and Greg Tivendale .................... nuff said there really to put it in perspective.
Re: Welcome Brandon Ellis
It's still a good sign that these kids can come into their first pre-season and aerobically then can match it with AFL seasoned players.
Yes footballing ability is what they will need to have, but you can't deny that its a promising sign.
It's still a good sign that these kids can come into their first pre-season and aerobically then can match it with AFL seasoned players.
Yes footballing ability is what they will need to have, but you can't deny that its a promising sign.
Re: Welcome Brandon Ellis
Richo also used to run the tan extremely well, and translated that on field.
You can take it for what it is, a little indicator among many other of a footballers athletic ability and a interesting piece of news to keep us going through the off-season.
craig said:
Richo also used to run the tan extremely well, and translated that on field.
You can take it for what it is, a little indicator among many other of a footballers athletic ability and a interesting piece of news to keep us going through the off-season.
Re: Welcome Brandon Ellis
That perspective being that even fairly ordinary footballers can have pretty long careers at the top level if they can at least get fit enough to compete? That talent is great, but it only takes you so far and that the guys willing to bust a gut in January and more likely to be in the team in July than those with talent who can't raise a jog?
craig said:
That perspective being that even fairly ordinary footballers can have pretty long careers at the top level if they can at least get fit enough to compete? That talent is great, but it only takes you so far and that the guys willing to bust a gut in January and more likely to be in the team in July than those with talent who can't raise a jog?
