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Brandon Ellis

tigerdell said:
Maybe there is some benefit. But the ratings were used to justify the claim that Ellis was poor. And the rankings purport to show who performed best.

Those rating considered essendon players were best because of a high ranking last quarter, when the game was over. So there is an obvious flaw. The intent is to win matches not supercoach points.
Now if Langford had carried the bombers over the line it could be considered as a best on ground performance. But not this time.

The second flaw is more subjective, that a player who's role is to move the ball, start the attacks, break lines etc is considered ineffective because he has 30+ disposals and many of them were intercepted and returned to our defensive half.
To my mind that is the nature of the beast in todays footy, all sides set up behind the ball and intercept or cutoff so many attacks. But we need this ball movement, and not just down the line dave.
So how the rankings can consider Houli so low suggests that creative ball movement is negatively biased.
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Agree that it's limited. It's weighting to certain stats makes it a somewhat particular kind of assessment. It essentially tries to do the opposite of the "most tackles/marks/disposals" type ratings, and places a premium on efficiency.

This can be interesting in conjunction with other assessments. But like any stat, doesn't tell the whole story.

I think it does point out (which is supported by my eye test) that Bachar is not a particularly creative or effective user of the ball. Again, there's probably reasons for that due to his style of play.

Also having said that, I do reckon he is playing some of his best ever footy, and that he is critical to our success right now.

Certainly wouldn't want oleg playing his role.
 
MD Jazz said:
Houli is not really a creative ball mover IMO. Houli is more a kick it long to a safer spot (like Short) type ball mover.

Edwards is a creative ball mover (best in the AFL), dusty is a creative ball mover. Both are highly ranked so not sure creative ball movement is negatively biased.

Agree with other stuff on the ratings if so many Essendon guys were ranked above our guys.
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I reckon Menadue shows signs of being a creative ball mover. Syd Stack is a very creative ball mover. Notorius is a creative ball mover, although more linear than lateral.

agree rating in the crapper.

the only time I pay any attention is when they have a player I love high up ;D
 
MD Jazz said:
Houli is not really a creative ball mover IMO. Houli is more a kick it long to a safer spot (like Short) type ball mover.
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Houli attacks the corridor. Short goes Down The Line Like Dave.
 
jb03 said:
Was he on Polec. I think he may have been but didn't go near him so it was hard to tell.
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No one went near Polec.

You know you are in for a *smile* night when Polec is running around getting touches.
 
I thought Ellis was just average.
Had very little impact on and influence over the game.
If he was marking Polec then he did a very ordinary job.
 
His best isn't that good anyway. His norm is average to poor.

Naish please.
 
Must be dropped purely on that goal square effort. Unforgivable.
 
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