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Ben Lennon

Baloo said:
Vibrant, he looks vibrant

How vibrant does Oleg look? Without Lennon nearby Oleg hurts bad. Lennon comes close, instant vibrancy and pre season is easy.

Lennon was on to something
 
Very good contested grab and one of the best kicks going around. I'm still on. His attitude stinks but he's a young FIGJAM. He'll learn. Hopefully at Richmond.
 
Baron Samedi said:
Very good contested grab and one of the best kicks going around. I'm still on. His attitude stinks but he's a young FIGJAM. He'll learn. Hopefully at Richmond.
Welcome aboard BS. Not many of us left here :help
 
easy said:
yeah with TV gone, theres a quite a Vacuum.

I must admit though, the smorgasboard of whipping boys we have does concern me.

I can count at 8-10 to choose from.

Lambert, Batchelor, Houli, Grigg, B Ellis, Lennon, Conca, Shankwards, Morro, Buckets Hampson, the list is compelling and makes for poor reading no wonder this club is a near do well at best.
 
craig said:
no wonder this club is a near do well at best.

near do well. Is that like, Top 4?

rosy3 said:
Not sticking the boots in at all. Looking forward to Ben showing his vibrancy.

phew. I was worried we'd bottomed out.
 
TOT70 said:
That’s the way it rolls on forums.

There are only two states that a footballer on our list can be in at any point in time. There are those who can do no wrong and there are those who can do no right. The first is a very select group.

They all start out being able to do no wrong. It begins before they are even drafted. Let’s face it, before a player is drafted he has not actually had the opportunity to do anything wrong so it is no more than a default state. Every future draft hopeful is in this default state at present. “I hope we draft player X, he is a beauty.”

It doesn’t last long though. At least half of the players we draft can do no right immediately. As in, less than 30 seconds after they are drafted they can do no right. “Why did we choose Player X? We could have had Player Y.” Reece Conca, for example, could do no right 0.92 secs after he was drafted, which, not coincidentally, is the average reaction time of the average football fan who has had a couple of drinks. Yes, some took as long as five seconds but they were plastered at the time.

Most of the others take a bit longer to be considered able to do no right. It happens when a player drafted later than them plays a senior game for another team. “Why did we choose Tambling when we could have had Buddy?” The only way to avoid this early relapse is to be selected for round 1 and stay in the team forever, more or less, say like Dusty has. Even then it is a tough gig. Being able to do no wrong can only be maintained in years when they are All-Australian and/or win the Brownlow Medal. In those years it is easy. In all other years it is impossible. Just ask Deledio about breaking a tag or about injuring his calf. Or Brandon Ellis when he made the All-Australian squad of 40.

Surprisingly enough, It is possible to go back into the state of doing no wrong for a brief period. This usually occurs when they get a kick in the VFL and are not selected in the seniors for the next game. Or the game after. Or the one after that. This is the McBean Factor. These players will continue to do no wrong until they are actually selected. The longer they stay in the VFL the more their legend will grow. It is actually better if they are never selected as they will eventually turn into Demi-Gods.

Then there is the Alex Rance Effect. He was a classic. First he could do no wrong. Then he was drafted. Then his right leg turned into a second left leg, then he had no clue, then he became hopeless overhead, then he made poor decisions. And on it went. It was only when he became the pre-eminent defender in the AFL that he could do no wrong again. Remember when Cotchin could do no wrong? Remember when Shank Edwards was “a beauty?”

Let’s not forget the Bachar Houli-Joel Bowden Conundrum. It is not possible to be able to do no wrong if you have pulled out of a contest, no matter what else you are able to achieve in your career.

Currently, Oleg Markov can do no wrong. It helps that he was not picked too early.

Which leads me to Ben Lennon, my God, he has redefined the art of being able to do no right. He is the poster boy for the revolution. Just pass the bottle of Vodka! I need another drink.
Classic post Tottie.
That's an awful big mirror you've held up there, not sure too many people can see anything though.
 
Two years, four kicks and three marks...can you all cut Benny Sookie LaLa some slack. He's just misunderstood. From what I can remember he was drafted to be a Deledio type player, you know can play off the half back line, swing onto the half forward line and pinch hit as a midfielder. So he writes that embarrassing column bleating about the fact that his best position is, wait for it it...Centre Half Forward!!!!. Suck it up Princess, put some hard yards into the preseason and earn your position in the team. This will be preseason number three and maybe you should ask someone where the weights room is. Just because your U-9's coach said you were gonna be the next Wayne Carey means zip.
 
TOT70 said:
That’s the way it rolls on forums.

There are only two states that a footballer on our list can be in at any point in time. There are those who can do no wrong and there are those who can do no right. The first is a very select group.

They all start out being able to do no wrong. It begins before they are even drafted. Let’s face it, before a player is drafted he has not actually had the opportunity to do anything wrong so it is no more than a default state. Every future draft hopeful is in this default state at present. “I hope we draft player X, he is a beauty.”

It doesn’t last long though. At least half of the players we draft can do no right immediately. As in, less than 30 seconds after they are drafted they can do no right. “Why did we choose Player X? We could have had Player Y.” Reece Conca, for example, could do no right 0.92 secs after he was drafted, which, not coincidentally, is the average reaction time of the average football fan who has had a couple of drinks. Yes, some took as long as five seconds but they were plastered at the time.

Most of the others take a bit longer to be considered able to do no right. It happens when a player drafted later than them plays a senior game for another team. “Why did we choose Tambling when we could have had Buddy?” The only way to avoid this early relapse is to be selected for round 1 and stay in the team forever, more or less, say like Dusty has. Even then it is a tough gig. Being able to do no wrong can only be maintained in years when they are All-Australian and/or win the Brownlow Medal. In those years it is easy. In all other years it is impossible. Just ask Deledio about breaking a tag or about injuring his calf. Or Brandon Ellis when he made the All-Australian squad of 40.

Surprisingly enough, It is possible to go back into the state of doing no wrong for a brief period. This usually occurs when they get a kick in the VFL and are not selected in the seniors for the next game. Or the game after. Or the one after that. This is the McBean Factor. These players will continue to do no wrong until they are actually selected. The longer they stay in the VFL the more their legend will grow. It is actually better if they are never selected as they will eventually turn into Demi-Gods.

Then there is the Alex Rance Effect. He was a classic. First he could do no wrong. Then he was drafted. Then his right leg turned into a second left leg, then he had no clue, then he became hopeless overhead, then he made poor decisions. And on it went. It was only when he became the pre-eminent defender in the AFL that he could do no wrong again. Remember when Cotchin could do no wrong? Remember when Shank Edwards was “a beauty?”

Let’s not forget the Bachar Houli-Joel Bowden Conundrum. It is not possible to be able to do no wrong if you have pulled out of a contest, no matter what else you are able to achieve in your career.

Currently, Oleg Markov can do no wrong. It helps that he was not picked too early.

Which leads me to Ben Lennon, my God, he has redefined the art of being able to do no right. He is the poster boy for the revolution. Just pass the bottle of Vodka! I need another drink.
Great posting, so true
 
Baron Samedi said:
Very good contested grab and one of the best kicks going around. I'm still on. His attitude stinks but he's a young FIGJAM. He'll learn. Hopefully at Richmond.

Same here. This is the word where most of the criticism is based on. I hope he goes up a notch or two, but just looks disinterested at times.
 
ahyeahnah said:
This will be preseason number three and maybe you should ask someone where the weights room is.
Regardless of whether Lennon is good enough to make it as a player.
He's had hip surgery over one summer n copped glandular fever over another one. Pretty sure he's not even been healthy enough to complete an AFL standard pre season as yet, never mind even a restricted developing kid pre season.
Nothing like a well measured n considered vent to ease the tension around the spleen though.
 
Vlossy said:
It was only 1 year ago that people were up in arm's that he was dropped for a final. Surely people haven't forgotten already...

Not leysy mate, wasn't a fan on draft day. Zak Jones was always three times the footballer who we looked over.

Not a fan when he played the final.

Not a fan now.
 
TOT70 said:
Which leads me to Ben Lennon, my God, he has redefined the art of being able to do no right. He is the poster boy for the revolution. Just pass the bottle of Vodka! I need another drink.

Harsh on us Bolsheviks Totty. Self indulgent claptrap written by the the boy wonder has not helped his cause. Soft, slow and no tank.....wasted pick IMO.
 
Vlossy said:
Not sure why there has been so much discussion going on about this kid's fitness level. I thought it has been very commonly known that his fitness levels aren't great. He even admits this in that letter a few weeks back.

People need to chill now. The penny has either dropped or it hasnt. But attacking him day 1 doesnt make much sense and only leads to more crap being flung his way for the whole preseason and into 2017. He is super talented and let's hope he gets his act together and changes his ways. Hard work is what it will take. He has plenty of time to build this fitness going into the 2017 season. This is pretty much his last chance to make an impression and continue his career in the AFL.

We all get the picture about this bloke, it has certainly been rammed home on here, but bullies will be bullies and many obviously have nothing better to do but just keep laying the boots in. Wait until he plays another bad game and then bag him, this current stuff is low rent.
 
Merveille said:
We all get the picture about this bloke, it has certainly been rammed home on here, but bullies will be bullies and many obviously have nothing better to do but just keep laying the boots in. Wait until he plays another bad game and then bag him, this current stuff is low rent.

This generally Happens when you watch him play (not on tv but live) and see him not chase,Tackle , Defend and give a flying F when ball is not in his area

Or when you go watch him train and see just how sh!t he really is !!

In his little pr exercise he mentions that he has been doing an extra 4 sessions a week and busting a gut and will bring "vibrant" to a club

Well Day 1 and he is the worst player at training and cant run or sprint any better than Relton , Give me a break !!
 
turk-d-tiger said:
This generally Happens when you watch him play (not on tv but live) and see him not chase,Tackle , Defend and give a flying F when ball is not in his area

It's frustrating alright.
Season 2016 can be seen as a poor one due to missing pre season with 'glandular fever' but I'd seen some similar traits the season prior too.
This lad is fast running out of excuses and time. My sense is he won't make it.
 
More going on in his mind off the field than concentrating on applying himself to learning and developing

His biggest issue's mentally is that he is way too busy thinking about what a star he is going to be and probably thinks hes already one and the club is holding him back


Reality : Spoilt junior who probably been told how special he is and believes it
 
TOT70 said:
That’s the way it rolls on forums.

There are only two states that a footballer on our list can be in at any point in time. There are those who can do no wrong and there are those who can do no right. The first is a very select group.
No true, the first usually don't get selected at all while they are doing no wrong in the VFL. Miles, Markov, Short etc